Most difficult class to play...

[Jonaldo]

Mentalism specced mentalist is hard to get groups.

 

[Qte Eth]

fail to see how can bard be harder then healer ,played both ,and well bard can hardly fill 1 qbar with spells so i am pretty sure healer is harder

 

[constanze]

BD ofc the are really hard to play

 

[Glacier]

if you only used 1 qb as bard, and had problem filling it up... i guess something went wrong

i got 3 qb`s on oddball i use activley..

as for the hardest class to play, i would say any class.... depends on how good u play it.. CC/healer classes are the hardest to get used to, but once ur there, its np..


some classes are very easy to learn (bd, chanter etc.) but takes skill to master, like all classes.

 

[mskin]

healer or bard you say, have you played both? no

 

[old.TeaSpoon]

An Armsman.

Why?

Because absolutely every other class tells you how to play yours.

 

[Reverant Mezz]

i see my healer as a challenge to play not how hard

 

[old.linnet]

Originally posted by Qte Eth
fail to see how can bard be harder then healer ,played both ,and well bard can hardly fill 1 qbar with spells so i am pretty sure healer is harder

Healer doesn't have to worry about instruments.

 

[Mavl]

Originally posted by Qte Eth
fail to see how can bard be harder then healer ,played both ,and well bard can hardly fill 1 qbar with spells so i am pretty sure healer is harder

AF buff
CON buff
DEX buff
STR buff
Powersong
Endusong
Speedsong
Healsong
Heal
Rez
Cure disease/poison
Single mez
Ae mez
Single mez shout
AE mez shout
Amnesia Shout
DD shout
ALL Resist chants

If you have songs on the qb, then you must have the instruments for them also.

Are you sure you played the bard ?
If yes, then you have a one big qb.

 

[Coren]

Are you sure you RvRed at all? Since the difficulty of a class isn't really defined by the amount of (un)used spells on someone's qb.

Having to buff before moving out and having some resist chants you'll never use doesn't really make your class harder to play than any other.

 

[succi]

^^

 

[case-rigantis]

having played paladin minstrel and infi to 50 with lots of other alts

i`d say hands down the minstrel is by far the hardest class in albion to play

twisting, switching instruments, putting up with bugged and crappy mez, hit like a wet lettuce, level 1 pets resist regularly at level 50 with +14instr

no defence from see hidden

the thing that makes it hard is the amount of stuff they need to do to complete even small tasks.

ffs powersong!!!111

presses drum..presses ps button..<nat farts somewhere> your song is interupted..start again..first press doesn`t do anything press again...ooops it was lag your song is cancelled

start again...

 

[Mavl]

Originally posted by Coren
Are you sure you RvRed at all? Since the difficulty of a class isn't really defined by the amount of (un)used spells on someone's qb.

Having to buff before moving out and having some resist chants you'll never use doesn't really make your class harder to play than any other.

You know, by that definition, an rm can just stick and go afk, providing speed or pbt. It will make the char waaay easier for some ppl. But will it reduce it's overall difficulty? I think not.

 

[Coren]

If you seriously think pbt or speed (lol?) are the only spells a rm actively uses, then you've just answered my question.

 

[)nick(]

Doe nou niet zo stoer coren pffffft!

 

[zapzap]

Originally posted by Mavl
AF buff
CON buff
DEX buff
STR buff
Powersong
Endusong
Speedsong
Healsong
Heal
Rez
Cure disease/poison
Single mez
Ae mez
Single mez shout
AE mez shout
Amnesia Shout
DD shout
ALL Resist chants

If you have songs on the qb, then you must have the instruments for them also.

Are you sure you played the bard ?
If yes, then you have a one big qb.

Yes havin buff and rest song on 1 Q-bar makes it hard to play bard gotta love people thats born on the Moon

Zapsi

 

[Falcon]

Coren just uses speed, /sticks and goes /afk imo

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by Mavl
AF buff
CON buff
DEX buff
STR buff
Powersong
Endusong
Speedsong
Healsong
Heal
Rez
Cure disease/poison
Single mez
Ae mez
Single mez shout
AE mez shout
Amnesia Shout
DD shout
ALL Resist chants

If you have songs on the qb, then you must have the instruments for them also.

yea and move around with buffz, curez and rezzez on your primary qb ^^
you see albz, you /face sorc, you begin to cast boof

ae mezz (who the f uses single if it's the same duration), 2 amnesias, 2 instamezzes, dd shout, purge, remove mezz + heal or end song, or whatever you want

Are you sure you played the bard ?
If yes, then you have a one big qb.

he did, and did well, now did you?

 

[Bebopbo]

well

i know manachanters arent the hardest class to play but regardless of what people say they still require some thought & skill in rvr (like most classes) chanters main weapon is PB as you know. Time this wrong in RvR could be fatal (mezz etc) /whine give hib AE stun FFS!

Also PB on chanters is usless *most* of the time unless we have MoC rdy.

most of the time my roll is debuff/nuke. Sometimes i might use
stun depending on situation.

My chanter has about 3-4 QB's, though i only use 2 at the most for RvR, others for farming etc..

in saying this.. play a chanter right in RvR ..theyre a fun class to use

This is just MY opinion

I have a 23 NS alt & find much more difficult ..but i guess in RvR will be more fun

 

[Nonnier]

Originally posted by old.TeaSpoon
An Armsman.

Why?

Because absolutely every other class tells you how to play yours.

same with BDs

i quote: (all said while in malmo at lvl 48)

stick ur pets on passive and they won't attack

you have a lifedrain that u can cast in combat

you get 2 healer pets

you can combine your baseline and insta for maximum damage

anyway, most differcult class to play imo is any healer/CC classes, because if u cock up, the grp dies

 

[wyleia]

Pfft sorc is nothing compared to a bard or healer imo... sorcs have one main job, that is cc... bards have to cc, without quickcast so no fuckups allowed to quickcast or moc your way out of with some snazzy dazzy aemezzes, bards have to interrupt casters iwth that silly amnesia, play end song (i know laugh but it can be hard to get end song off if a tank resist your mezz and come straight on you since they interrupt your song), keep wihtin a decent range of grp so end song is effective (cant just run off and hide behind a tree a bit away from the grp like mind sorcs can)... Rez ppl if the druid cannot, heal ppl (yes ok this is a joke with 16 regrowthm but sometiems it can help).. oh and maybe shout at ppl..

Never played mid but having to worry about keeping eveyrthing cc-ed and maybe healing... unless ofc the healer is only specced for cc-ing then i guess its not so bad..

Wiht my sorc i just cc and then debuff, dmg deal, interrupt etc... I have quickcast and moc that can keep me alive (qc root tanks off me, moc lifetap something to death)..


I guess the biggest difference between my bard and sorc, is the lack of being able to actively aid the grp in combat.. with sorc i can help finish off kills with dd, use a secondary form of cc on stuff that purges.. i can aeinterrupt without breaking my aeroot... Bards cannot interrupt without breaking their cc (aeamnesia breaks mezz), bards cannot help with the dmg output so well withj their shout on 10 second timer.. the bards role is more passive and depends a lot on how well their grp does.. once the mezz is off its up to her grp to kill stuff in that timer.. no secondary form of cc does she have (unless u count interrupting casters).. And yes, say instamezz all you want, but i would trade instamezz for my sorc's 1875 range quickcastable aemezz anyday no 10 minute timer on that


Anyways enough rambling.. but i think any class that has more to do besides cc (as a sorc does, dmg output is a bonus imo) is difficult to play, esp with all that can happen in a battle.

Oh, and my bard can fill a quickbar easily with spells... as can my sorc, both have tons of varieties.. (sorc has more tho).. but my sorc can keep herself alive a lot longer than my bard can cuz she can kill stuff and two form of cc to help stop ppl in their tracks and quickcast.. very big factors here imo


Oh, and i think my chanter is a delight to play.. so much headache having to ALWAYS be alert when you rvr as a primary cc-er, you gotta being looking forwards, panning around for ppl inc from behind etcetc... so nice just to stick someone else and put your trust that they WILL get that mezz off.. just casually look around get ready to grab first target and spread, not worry if my mezz will catch everything or not... Can actually relax in a group with a trusted mezzer

 

[old.Greggor]

Originally posted by Makwaerk
the Pac/mend healer ... if you think you are only to do CC you are fooling yourself

Add instument to that and u have a bard

Main CC mostly main healer speed and end ?

Originally posted by Freia
Comparing bards and healers, afaik bards need to twist power regen and end regen, and also they need to not get hit cause then chants will break. Is this what makes them harder than a pac/mend healer?

I am curious.

Spamming instant lul must certainly be easier than alternating castable lul and instant debuf for interrupt. Let alone that bards only have one cc type and can thus focus more on other things after first mez.

Enlighten me.

bard are targeted cuz they carry an instument which makes them easy reconised and normal at the front and range of songs are small so tend to be closer to the tanks than other healer types.

half the job of a bard is getting the first CC in swap to end and lull and heal tanks while trying to keep yourself alive with a target in your hand with says " i'm a bard, i am a easy kill, i have only one form of CC, if u have purge it or got attack after my first mezz i cant stop u from killing me( in the old days i would sprint away and twist end/speed, but since all realms have end regen i cant do that now so just die easily)"

 

[old.Greggor]

Look at qb set etc......................

http://www.prydwen.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6144


think use 2 or 4 in rvr

 

[Qte Eth]

"mostly main healer"

 

[Mavl]

anubis, have you played a bard? have you played an instrument class at all ?

Originally posted by old.anubis
ae mezz (who the f uses single if it's the same duration), 2 amnesias, 2 instamezzes, dd shout, purge, remove mezz + heal or end song, or whatever you want

lol

wtf is this? are these all the spells you intent to use as a bard(where's runspeed, rez, powersong etc? ) or is it your main quickbar?(where are your instruments if u are including songs ?)

and if these are all the spells and you want to count RAs, dont forget ignore pain and AM.


P.S.

Originally posted by old.anubis
yea and move around with buffz, curez and rezzez on your primary qb ^^

its not primary qb you clown, its what bards can do.

 

[Freia]

Originally posted by old.Greggor
Look at qb set etc......................

http://www.prydwen.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6144


think use 2 or 4 in rvr

Wanna compare quickbars?

I have 5 quickbars with no duplicates, (and a few more with emotes and silly macros and crap). I use 4 of those actively all the time in rvr. #5 is bufs so ofcourse i'm not counting it.

ps. wth is a "primary quickbar" anyway? never heard of that.

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by Mavl
its not primary qb you clown, its what bards can do.

they also can /dance /hug /slap etc
why dont you you count it?

 

[Mavl]

Originally posted by old.anubis
they also can /dance /hug /slap etc
why dont you you count it?

maybe because any char can do that ?


P.S. and check the above post/link, smartass.

 

[tildson]

Since CC and primary healers are very essential for the result of the fight, if someone screws up then you are aswell pretty screwed up. Of course the group is depended by every groupmember, but i think that healers and crowdcontrollers have the biggest role.

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by tildson
Since CC and primary healers are very essential for the result of the fight, if someone screws up then you are aswell pretty screwed up. Of course the group is depended by every groupmember, but i think that healers and crowdcontrollers have the biggest role.

Healers more then CC'er