More RIAA Plans

[Embattle]

I call them plans but tbh its the same one they tried before but on a larger scale:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,90403,00.html

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

If you use Kazaa you deserve to be charged $15,000

 

[nath]

So is it illegal to make songs available to download now?

Surely the whole legal side of kazaa is that people can download files that they have a legal right to download. Some people have legal rights to download mp3s, thus isn't it legal to host mp3's and make it available to everyone and deny responsibility that some people abuse it?

 

[Wij]

Um - check with Stu

My guess is they can argue you should be checking that ppl who download off you have the right to do so. If not it's your bad. Anyway the main point is to scare the shit out of you with the threat of enormous legal bills that they can afford and you can't.

 

[nath]

Ja, I know.

Still, RIAA are evil fascist fucks. And I hardly ever download mp3s :\

 

[Wij]

*download nath's mp3s*

 

[nath]

*replaces good mp3's with britney spears & liberty x*

mahahha. enjoy

 

[Wij]

But I don't own those. You made me make you break the law.

 

[Sar]

Liberty X are guud.

Leave em be.

 

[nath]

Dear god shut up now :|

*desperately tries to cling on to the remaining shreds of respect he had for Sar* :\

 

[Testin da Cable]

you had respect for Sar? oO

 

[Wij]

I cum in his hair to humiliate him at every opportunity. Respect Sar indeed ? What is the world coming to ?

 

[nath]

Well.. but.. um..

fuckoff :\

 

[mank!]

I'm changing my name, address and having plastic surgery. And taking my mp3 collection with me.

 

[stu]

nath - the whole point is, they're not going after Kazaa et al. RIAA lost in a court battle against Morpheus and Grokster, specifically because the Supreme Court stated that the fact that they didn't monitor what was shared did not mean that they were culpable for potential illegal use. Hence RIAA are now targeting the users - ie those people who can be proven to have downloaded copyright material.

I just laugh every time I hear their shit to be honest - "we're going to start taking names and filing suits, you think you're anonymous but you're not". Wow. I'm scared.

Only monkeys use kazaa anyway, the mp3s are all shit quality, ripped by imbeciles at 128kbps using Xing.

 

[Embattle]

I guessing this sort of action would be harder to do over here?

 

[nath]

So basically, if I ripped my entire cd collection and made it available on Kazaa, and they filed a law suit, I'd win because I owned all of the cd's?

 

[Sar]

Bittorrent is quite good. The problem is finding decent seeds.

www.suprnova.org looks good, but the seeds hardly ever work.

 

[Tom]

I would say that falling sales are more down to the general crapness of new acts these days, and not internet piracy.

 

[nath]

And ludicrous prices of cd's.

14 quid for an album? Fuck right off thanks!

'S all cheaper online of course, but still. The mark up that places like Virgin/HMV charge is fucking absurd.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Fall in Sales = 9%

Fall in number of releases = 15%

 

[nath]

lol, if those are legit figures then what the fuckbugger are they moaning about?

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Those are legit figures.;

http://news.dmusic.com/print/6930

http://www.azoz.com/news/truth16.html

That's just a pair of debunkings, there's hundreds more on Google.

The Riaa needs to unbend itself a little and realise that not everyone is interested in a 20 year old media format. The way people listen to music is changing and much the same way as the music industry fought against 75 RPM records, 33/45 RPM records, and casettes believing that each would lead to the 'death of music', each format eventually turned into a massive money spinner for labels.

One of the majors needs to take a chance and jump into bed with people who know about the potentials offered by the newest digital formats instead of blindly stamping down on people.

 

[nath]

omg omg omg VCRs will kill teh film industree! etc.

I'm still interested in CD's, I hate listening to music on my computer, even though I've got it rigged up to a pretty decent hifi.

 

[Sar]

My PC is my main music player - I rarely listen to music on straight CD anymore. When I buy CDs I rip them immediately.

The way I see it is, I've paid my money, so what I do with the contents of said CD is up to me, as regards my own personal use.


PS Scoobs: That DMusic site is pretty good. :great:

 

[doh_boy]

The only time I listen to CD's in a normal CD-player(i.e. non-pc) is 1) in the shower 2) walkman (haven't the money for an mp3 player) 3) When I'm in bed/waking up.

 

[Tom]

I download mp3s mainly to determine if I want to buy the CD. I usually listen to the CDs on my Hifi or in my car.

 

[Embattle]

http://www.riaa.com/news/newsletter/062503.asp

You have to laugh at some of the comments by members of the industry.

 

[Embattle]

EFF takes a stand:

http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/20030630_eff_pr.php

 

[(Shovel)]

A very good overview of the whole thing by the Guardian - thank God someone in the mainstream press will distrubute some sense on the subject...