Moral dilemma for the day!

[Cadelin]

This happened today!

A man in his late thirties came into the doctors surgery today and asks about having a vasectomy. He says he and his wife have finished having children and she has a bad reaction to contraceptive pills/devices. Sounds reasonable, however the same doctor has also recently had to prescribe contraceptive pills to his wife because she is having an affair!

If you were the doctor what would you do? Bare in mind if you tell the man his wife is having an affair you could end up in court and lose your doctors license.

The doctor today said she would send a letter to the hospital to ask about the availability of the operation.

 

[Garaen]

The doctor can't and shouldn't do anything as he/she is under the hippocratic oath. It's that simple.

 

[TdC]

eeee harsh o0

anyway, what Garaen said.

 

[Bugz]

Give her the contraceptive pills then blackmail the wife for sex, then tell the husband about the affair she has been having with the other guy.

You may lose your job but you receive a) sex, and b) gratitude, and c) a funny story to tell your kids.

 

[Trem]

Give her the contraceptive pills then blackmail the wife for sex, then tell the husband about the affair she has been having with the other guy.

You may lose your job but you receive a) sex, and b) gratitude, and c) a funny story to tell your kids.

d) A.I.D.S.

 

[Edmond]

Unfortunately there is nothing the doctor can/should do, it has nothing to do with him/her at the end of the day

She must be aware he has been in and asked for the operation, therefore its her who should feel uncomfortable for asking for the pills, as she knows her and her husband share the same doctor. She should have used her head and seen a different doctor in the first place

 

[Yoni]

He should do and say nothing... there is no moral dilemma as he is is required to keep the hypocratic oath.

She maybe having an affair for many reasons and who are we to judge?

 

[Chilly]

bitches who have affairs are just that. if you dont like your bloke fucking leave him dont be a **** about it. same goes for blokes, obviously.

 

[TdC]

without saying anything about who is doing what, I personally hope she'd not let him go through with the operation.

 

[Chilly]

yeah good point. down the road he might find out and want to have some more sprogs with a less whore-ish wife.

 

[Bugz]

To practice and prescribe to the best of my ability for the good of my patients, and to try to avoid harming them.

Is that part of the Oath not somewhat ruined here?

He may have avoided directly harming them but his silence is likely to have an indirect physiological and possibly physical harm.

 

[old.user4556]

This can't be for real.

 

[gohan]

He should do and say nothing... there is no moral dilemma as he is is required to keep the hypocratic oath.

She maybe having an affair for many reasons and who are we to judge?

ye cos she's a whore, u can't justify an affiar
if she's desperatly unhappy/ he's abusive then get a divorce


i judge cos i can ^^

 

[Yoni]

*laughs and laughs*

really I can not believe that some are so blinkered. As I have said before I have been in both camps and there were reasons for both and as much as it sucked being cheated on the conclusion was for the best.

 

[nath]

He should do and say nothing... there is no moral dilemma as he is is required to keep the hypocratic oath.

I agree, no moral dilemma - say nothing, it's not his place.

bitches who have affairs are just that. if you dont like your bloke fucking leave him dont be a **** about it. same goes for blokes, obviously.

I also agree - having an affair is pretty much never justifiable. Sure it sounds like I'm up on my high horse, but it's not hard to say no to a fuck if you're actually concious of the consequences to the people you're hurting. If your other half is a ****, leave. Granted, the world isn't black and white but there's such a thing as fundamental human decency. That said, I think a huge amount of people are lacking in that.

Bah, the human race - bunch of *****. </emo>

 

[Yoni]

Take a woman in a relationship from a very religious middle eastern background.. her husband "takes" her even when she doesnt want to. She talks to her father about it who tells her that this is her life and she should just get on with it as leaving would bring dishonour to the family.... to get through her miserable existence she has an affair... the girl eventually leaves and her family never talk to her again ... not because she had the affair but because she left...

Some do it because they HAVE to, they just want to experience love, some happiness, some compassion or affection... and in my opinioin it is completely justifible... this is just one of many reasons I have seen for affairs happening. Yes some are not necessary and people should just leave but purleaseeee do not go around calling individuals whores / slags etc etc when quite clearly you have absolutely NO idea of some things that go on in the world.

 

[rynnor]

Its a no brainer to do nothing since its not his job to fix peoples lives - the hypocratic oath doesnt come into it since both are his patients.

The most he could do would be to mention to the wife about the husbands vasectomy and see what she says.

Is ignorance bliss tho?

 

[mycenae]

This isn't a moral dilemma, as there is nothing the Dr should do or can do. The best the Dr can hope to do is give the chap other alternatives to a vasectomy, or to make sure he really thinks about it before he goes ahead. Like others have said, the Hippocratic oath prevents the Doc from doing a thing.

 

[Trem]

Firstly this thread is bonkers, hardly a moral dilemma for the doctor, infact he should not of even mentioned it. So theres the answer, he should keep his big mouth shut.

Secondly the wife must be a massive gobshite or at least proud of what shes doing to mention it to the doctor, "I want a pill for this bloke I'm banging on the side so I don't get up the duff and have ginger kids" or something like that. She is obviously proud of the fact.

Thirdly why the fuck say the pill doesn't suit her and tell her husband to have the snip, why not just take the pill and be done with it for both blokes.

Something doesn't make sense here.

What chilly said me laugh really quite a fucking lot but lets not have a massive slanging match this close to Xmas, I have almost gone a year without being modlike so lets finish this year with me still being pretty much useless

I don't want anyone offending Yoni now I know shes into rimming, a woman like that is hard to find....











*runs*

 

[Edmond]

I don't want anyone offending Yoni now I know shes into rimming, a woman like that is hard to find....

:lol:

 

[nath]

Some do it because they HAVE to, they just want to experience love, some happiness, some compassion or affection... and in my opinioin it is completely justifible... this is just one of many reasons I have seen for affairs happening. Yes some are not necessary and people should just leave but purleaseeee do not go around calling individuals whores / slags etc etc when quite clearly you have absolutely NO idea of some things that go on in the world.

I dunno how much this was referring to me, but I never called anyone a whore/slag - that smacks of misogyny. My hatred extends to all genders and races, no bigotry here. Also, I did say there's *pretty much* no justification for an affair. Sure, there's exceptions to every rule but I think for the most part people are just becoming more and more self-centred and give less and less of a shit about the effect they have on people. "I'm unhappy with my partner, s/he's an asshole. I'll fuck around, it's his/her fault really, I just want some happiness." Wah. Wah. Wah.

Have the fucking balls to do the right thing or fuck off.

 

[old.user4556]

Secondly the wife must be a massive gobshite or at least proud of what shes doing to mention it to the doctor, "I want a pill for this bloke I'm banging on the side so I don't get up the duff and have ginger kids" or something like that. She is obviously proud of the fact.

True words. I was going to say she sounds like an incredibly insolent, deceitful and woefully selfish individual to pull a stunt like that; what an abortion missed.

 

[old.user4556]

Have the fucking balls to do the right thing or fuck off.

Absolutely.

 

[MYstIC G]

Take a woman in a relationship from a very religious middle eastern background.. her husband "takes" her even when she doesnt want to. She talks to her father about it who tells her that this is her life and she should just get on with it as leaving would bring dishonour to the family.... to get through her miserable existence she has an affair... the girl eventually leaves and her family never talk to her again ... not because she had the affair but because she left...

Some do it because they HAVE to, they just want to experience love, some happiness, some compassion or affection... and in my opinioin it is completely justifible... this is just one of many reasons I have seen for affairs happening. Yes some are not necessary and people should just leave but purleaseeee do not go around calling individuals whores / slags etc etc when quite clearly you have absolutely NO idea of some things that go on in the world.

No they don't and even if they did, this is a shit example. It's clear that in this example she chooses to have the affair so she has a fall back position for when she gets rid of the dickwad she's married to. If not she'd just leave the blood dickwad, no?

*awaits standard blowback*

 

[Yoni]

No Meg... everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just wish people were a little less blinkered and thought outside of their own safe worlds sometimes

 

[TdC]

*yawns* are we talking about this again? I thought we'd done it to death last time? The question is about the doctor, not about the woman last time I read the first post.

The doc can not tell patient X that patient Y, patient X's wife, is doing something patient X does not know about. The doc can argue other methods and procedures, perhaps even to the point where he agues the couple talk things over re the procedure, etc, I don't know. Simple, no?

That said, I am glad I am not a doctor, just like I am very glad I am not a judge.

 

[nath]

No Meg... everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just wish people were a little less blinkered and thought outside of their own safe worlds sometimes

And I just wish that people would consider how their actions can seriously adversely affect others but there's not much risk of that happening any time soon.

 

[old.user4556]

*yawns*

*pings in a blob of Trem's already applied anusol*

 

[TdC]

 

[nath]

Reductio ad absurdum incoming, everybody hit the deck!

Yoni, what if you apply that same logic to a guy who's trying to justify beating his wife. Why is causing serious emotional pain acceptable and physical not?