Monday 21st Agramon Action

[Bondoila]

The laughspam was aimed at your warden, i mean, come on, spending an entire fight of 5+ min doing one thing and one thing only is quite pathetic.
Shows any brainless monkey with one arm can play a warden if its played like that.
If me getting irritated with a player spending an entire fight just permagrapplning me for 5+ min then fine, i'm quite childish.

If he keeps chain grappling, it means he can't bg. That gives your grp the poss to take out there casters with your tanks, which will force him to bg a bit instead of only grappling.
If you run a grp with only casters in it's your own fault really and if thats the case, chain grappling the bg'er is the best way to go for a tank grp even if it might be a bit boring for both the warrior and the warden

Just clueless grappling is tarded but in this case it seems to be used for gaining an advantage vs your setup(free up for there tanks) and in that case it's motivated.

 

[Septina]

If he keeps chain grappling, it means he can't bg. That gives your grp the poss to take out there casters with your tanks, which will force him to bg a bit instead of only grappling.
If you run a grp with only casters in it's your own fault really and if thats the case, chain grappling the bg'er is the best way to go for a tank grp even if it might be a bit boring for both the warrior and the warden

Just clueless grappling is tarded but in this case it seems to be used for gaining an advantage vs your setup(free up for there tanks) and in that case it's motivated.

Very much agree, the only thing i tried to get through is how insanely boring it is for me when i get chaingrappled and to be honest, cant be much fun for the warden either.

 

[Bondoila]

Never have i said i dont understand why you do it, i perfectly understand why you do it but all i'm saying is its annoying as F*CK to play against and it does get irritating to be locked down in a fight that badly. :/

Just noticed your replay, of course I can see why you get pissed about it

 

[noaim]

Not a very good tactic either since you just have your warrior chaingrappling a tank aswell, trade 2 for 1, decent deal.

 

[Maeloch]

Very much agree, the only thing i tried to get through is how insanely boring it is for me when i get chaingrappled and to be honest, cant be much fun for the warden either.

How much fun u think it is being a caster 100% locked down vs bd grp, fight monkey tactics with monkey tactics!

 

[Sharkith]

Never have i said i dont understand why you do it, i perfectly understand why you do it but all i'm saying is its annoying as F*CK to play against and it does get irritating to be locked down in a fight that badly. :/

hopefully then you can see how many of us feel then - 2 BD's is dammed nasty. They can lock people down for whole fights.

I never thought the Petshop Boys would be so bloody good at rvr...

 

[Septina]

How much fun u think it is being a caster 100% locked down vs bd grp, fight monkey tactics with monkey tactics!

And when we dont run bd's its whine on 'OMFG YOU'RE LIKE ALL RR11 FUCKING HIGH RR LEETIST PRICKS!!!11'
No matter what setup we run theres always something people can whine about.
The bd setup just generates lots of whine which is an added bonus. =)

hopefully then you can see how many of us feel then - 2 BD's is dammed nasty. They can lock people down for whole fights.

I never thought the Petshop Boys would be so bloody good at rvr...

We've beaten you many times without bd's aswell and you still permagrappled me so come up with something else, kek

 

[Septina]

rofl when i look at your solo kills i see you cannot kill athing without your group WADDL:touch: are you only a BG-bot....must be boring he

Also, i can respecc warlord and full solo ra's if you want and you can have a go at me.... anytime m8.

 

[Genedril]

Never have i said i dont understand why you do it, i perfectly understand why you do it but all i'm saying is its annoying as F*CK to play against and it does get irritating to be locked down in a fight that badly. :/

Fair play - can understand why (not fun to have jack all to do - suppose it's the same for the grappler) but it's fairly frustrating to be locked down by 2 bd's or a bg'r that is so good he can negate all your melee damage, or certainly enough of it to make it annoying - & feck you are good. Going from bard to hero has shown why I shouldn't have been shoting at people to just kill the sodding things. Think it's a case of needs must, you've got a group that works for you & other people need to find a way past it.

The fact that you invariably play well & usually pretty fairly (don't think you've ever added on me while in FG) means that the rest of us have to raise the game & deal with it. Atm I think NFD2 would be happy with killing a couple of you & working up - unfortunately our average rr is well below yours. Doesn't mean it's not fun to try though. Well keep trying & learning & no doubt you'll keep smacking us around.

& if you play to play with friends then fair play to you - you spec the way you have to based on your most usual playstyle.

 

[Genedril]

If I typed faster then everyone wouldn't say exactly what I did before I got a post in . Ho hum. I blame it on the broken collar bone (that also goes for my current lack for skillzz in RvR - damn will need a new excuse soon ).

 

[Maeloch]

The bd setup just generates lots of whine which is an added bonus. =)

Aye, but who's whining .

 

[Cromcruaich]

No probs with sept as waddle solo, had a few good natured encounters with him late at night on my eldie, we both turned on some theurg who started to add on us as we were closing, then hugged and went our own way. Beneath all the bluff and bluster he's lovely really.

Wouldnt knock people for solo stuff anyway Alex, our very own Deadweight has about 3 solo kills

 

[Septina]

Fair play - can understand why (not fun to have jack all to do - suppose it's the same for the grappler) but it's fairly frustrating to be locked down by 2 bd's or a bg'r that is so good he can negate all your melee damage, or certainly enough of it to make it annoying - & feck you are good. Going from bard to hero has shown why I shouldn't have been shoting at people to just kill the sodding things. Think it's a case of needs must, you've got a group that works for you & other people need to find a way past it.

The fact that you invariably play well & usually pretty fairly (don't think you've ever added on me while in FG) means that the rest of us have to raise the game & deal with it. Atm I think NFD2 would be happy with killing a couple of you & working up - unfortunately our average rr is well below yours. Doesn't mean it's not fun to try though. Well keep trying & learning & no doubt you'll keep smacking us around.

& if you play to play with friends then fair play to you - you spec the way you have to based on your most usual playstyle.

When nocturne rolled their second group we had 3 tanks in the group and one lighteld. All rr3 - 4, most of the tanks werent even ml10 and the high rr groups just steamrolled us over and over but, with time we got our teamplay together and gained some ranks and started putting up better and better fights vs the high rr groups.
Realm Rank does quite alot, atleast when the gap between the groups are big but teamplay is what does the most and if you play with the same people all the time that teamplay will just get better and better.
Was the same for Nocturne on avalon, getting beat by the higher realm rank groups didnt put us down but only gave us the motivation we needed to come back again and again and finally beat these groups.

 

[Septina]

No probs with sept as waddle solo, had a few good natured encounters with him late at night on my eldie, we both turned on some theurg who started to add on us as we were closing, then hugged and went our own way. Beneath all the bluff and bluster he's lovely really.

Wouldnt knock people for solo stuff anyway Alex, our very own Deadweight has about 3 solo kills

Oho, that was you? Was fun indeed

 

[Sharkith]

We've beaten you many times without bd's aswell and you still permagrappled me so come up with something else, kek

I don't know why you feel the need to get into dick waving. I have no need to prove my manhood especially not in a computer game , kek

Lets leave it and stay chilled - like Paul (Genedril) says if we can get a couple we usually consider it a result.

 

[Genedril]

When nocturne rolled their second group we had 3 tanks in the group and one lighteld. All rr3 - 4, most of the tanks werent even ml10 and the high rr groups just steamrolled us over and over but, with time we got our teamplay together and gained some ranks and started putting up better and better fights vs the high rr groups.
Realm Rank does quite alot, atleast when the gap between the groups are big but teamplay is what does the most and if you play with the same people all the time that teamplay will just get better and better.
Was the same for Nocturne on avalon, getting beat by the higher realm rank groups didnt put us down but only gave us the motivation we needed to come back again and again and finally beat these groups.

You're right - teamplay is the key. NFD2 have always had fluctuations in personel (hopefully they've stopped) & me getting bard fatigue & throwing a hissy fit hardly helped them. Like I said - we'll get there. It may be hard, & some of the fights may not be pretty, but it'll come.

 

[Septina]

I don't know why you feel the need to get into dick waving. I have no need to prove my manhood especially not in a computer game , kek

Lets leave it and stay chilled - like Paul (Genedril) says if we can get a couple we usually consider it a result.

Dick waving?
All i said was we've beaten you with and without bd's so your bd whine isnt really justified, had nothing at all to do with 'e-peens'.

 

[Septina]

Aye, but who's whining .

You should see irc every night when we run and you'd know.

 

[Huntingtons]

septina falls low sometimes :< and i agree with people, bd setup is quite qq, but people try to adept (some anyway) and if you tell people to stfu when they cry, so should you be quiet septina

 

[Sharkith]

Dick waving?
All i said was we've beaten you with and without bd's so your bd whine isnt really justified, had nothing at all to do with 'e-peens'.

ahh I read you wrong then sowy...

and yeah I know how often you have beaten us (NFD GG2) we are the ones you have been able to beat in like 30 secs... We will keep coming back as much as we can.

 

[Belisar]

Grapple stuff

Not sure if you are moaning or not , it is so hard to tell when just reading written text.

When we fought you on Sunday (as NFD2) the comment in our vent was "jeez that Waddle is good, he seems to bodyguard all of our targets". There was no moan or complaint about him permanently using a skill or ability of the class. To be honest it stuffed us up as a tank group and so we had to look for alternatives. One of those is to grapple, grapple and grapple some more.

Quite frankly if there is a tactic that beats you and makes you go away and think about how to counter the counter then it is all for the good - we wouldn't want you resting on your laurels after all

Or perhaps we should have an agreement that Waddle does not use bodyguard and the warden does not use grapple on him - can't see many takers for that though (especially as it may well be the one chance we have of some limited success).

 

[Septina]

Not sure if you are moaning or not , it is so hard to tell when just reading written text.

When we fought you on Sunday (as NFD2) the comment in our vent was "jeez that Waddle is good, he seems to bodyguard all of our targets". There was no moan or complaint about him permanently using a skill or ability of the class. To be honest it stuffed us up as a tank group and so we had to look for alternatives. One of those is to grapple, grapple and grapple some more.

Quite frankly if there is a tactic that beats you and makes you go away and think about how to counter the counter then it is all for the good - we wouldn't want you resting on your laurels after all

Or perhaps we should have an agreement that Waddle does not use bodyguard and the warden does not use grapple on him - can't see many takers for that though (especially as it may well be the one chance we have of some limited success).

Read what i've said countless times. I KNOW why you do it, it doesnt get any less annoying cause of that tho.