Mods: WHY are you closing so many threads!?

[Fluid]

While Ted and Deebs may not be forced to read it, they are also not forced to host the DAoC community and would be quite within their rights to close the daoc forums

and would also lose a hell of a lot of hits on their site if they did so

 

[Tilda]

1: can the OT noobs crawl bak to their hole, most of u dont play game anymore.

I'll point you out to this:

2: although it is their forum we are still the community and thus i believe we deserve some rights in what we want.

So they have every right to reply

if the community doesnt care about some spam or flames then why lock it? tor forum is here to for discussion and if that type of discussion is fine with every1 then there is no need to lock it.

Because spam isn't discussion.

and would also lose a hell of a lot of hits on their site if they did so

They'ed also save on bandwidth costs.

Subedai, when you are paying the moderators for their time to go through and edit specific posts out, thats fine, you ask them to do that. At the moment mods recieve little other than flames, aggressive PM's and insults, when you're reading a thread and its primarily composed of spam, its less hasltle to close the whole thread, than to spend ages editing out spam posts and then recieving PMs from people saying how come my post was deleted when his wasn't etc.
Until such a time as when you make you're own forums, or start paying for bandwidth and moderators for this one, sure you can state your oppinion as long as its within the CoC, however you can't expect your views to be put into action exactly as you want.
Sure the community may like bandwidth, however the community isnt paying for spiraling bandwidth costs. Perhaps FH needs a "Liscence to spam" subscription of say £5 a month to pay for the increased bandwidth? Would you pay that contribution just so you could spam more? I doubt it.

Tilda

 

[Flimgoblin]

2: although it is their forum we are still the community and thus i believe we deserve some rights in what we want. if the community doesnt care about some spam or flames then why lock it? tor forum is here to for discussion and if that type of discussion is fine with every1 then there is no need to lock it.
some people actually enjoy looking at flame posts and find it funny, it can also help build up the community cuz cross realm flaming makes it all the more fun in rvr when u meet em in battle

Your ego may not like this but you personally are not the entire daoc community. Not even the entire RvR daoc community. Just a particularly vocal member of it.

There is a Code of Conduct for these boards that has been there since they started - if you don't like it you are more than welcome to post your flames elsewhere. But if you want to post here you do it by the rules as set out in the CoC.

 

[Asha]

While Ted and Deebs may not be forced to read it, they are also not forced to host the DAoC community and would be quite within their rights to close the daoc forums

so they get no compensation from GOA for running these boards?
I find it hard to believe tbh.

 

[[NO]Subedai]

however this thread shows alot of people protesting against the locking of posts and far less people suporting it and i belive this shuld be taken into account.

 

[Jupitus]

and would also lose a hell of a lot of hits on their site if they did so

I'm sure that will affect the advertising revenue they are creaming from all the pop-ups.....

 

[Jupitus]

however this thread shows alot of people protesting against the locking of posts and far less people suporting it and i belive this shuld be taken into account.

The rules stand, the mods are doing their job, and if YOU don't like it find another board to post on.

For every vocal crap poster there is one quiet, polite, sensible poster they drive away.

 

[Ziva]

however this thread shows alot of people protesting against the locking of posts and far less people suporting it and i belive this shuld be taken into account.

This might come as a surprise to you but about 90% of all the locked/deleted/editted threads come from posts that are reported by..... the community itself. And no... this is not one person reporting all the time, these are random people who feel certain threads have no value/content or whatever.

These people do a great job in helping us keep the forums readable for everyone and because random people report random threads on all forums so i think we have a rather good image on what should be tolerated and what not.

 

[Gordonax]

however this thread shows alot of people protesting against the locking of posts and far less people suporting it and i belive this shuld be taken into account.

A lot of people? I count about ten. How many registered users does FH have?

 

[Raven]

the point is this forum is run by deebs and jupe with help from the mods, this is thier forum paid for by them, we are guests here and should abide by the rules, if a thread is utter crap and taking up bandwidth/memory whatever then they can close it, end of story.
Now if you dont like the rules why not start your own forum up and make your own rules.

 

[behatch]

The first thing that came too mind when i read they lock spam threads is ...so f u c k i n g what? its not really a big deal..People spam whoop dee doo..people spam irl too but you carnt lock them which is a shame most of the time ;/

 

[Fluid]

I'm sure that will affect the advertising revenue they are creaming from all the pop-ups.....

like they ain't getting subsidies from goa for hosting the daoc forums

 

[Gordonax]

like they ain't getting subsidies from goa for hosting the daoc forums

And even if they were, so what? It'd be Goa's money that's paying for the forums, not yours.

 

[Coim]

Why do you talk about mods as if they're evil people designed to ruin your fun?

Here's something you might not have realised, mods are nice, NORMAL people. They don't get paid for what they do, they put up with shit from everyone (including me! xD), and 99% of the time they do a good job. So give them a break, retards.

the point is this forum is run by deebs and jupe with help from the mods, this is thier forum paid for by them, we are guests here and should abide by the rules, if a thread is utter crap and taking up bandwidth/memory whatever then they can close it, end of story.

Actually, as far as I know, it's run by Deebs and TedTheDog. I think Jup is just a super mod.

 

[Asha]

And even if they were, so what? It'd be Goa's money that's paying for the forums, not yours.

who pays GOA?
who has no other outlet to discuss things with the community?
thank you.

didn't get an answer so I take it as a yes, they get some funding from GOA, I don't know why in god's name they would run these forums w/o it.

 

[Fluid]

And even if they were, so what? It'd be Goa's money that's paying for the forums, not yours.

and if there was hardly any people reading these forums from the daoc community goa would still pay for it? don't let what you have against me blind u from reason as it just makes u look stupid

 

[Coim]

And what if Deebs and co. aren't receiving money from GOA?

Show some gratitude.

 

[Fluid]

And what if Deebs and co. aren't receiving money from GOA?

Show some gratitude.

well i personally think they are, if i found out otherwise then fair enough

 

[Raven]

even if they are its their forum their rules, apply to goa for funding for your own forum and stop acting like children. they dont have to host a forum for DAOC but they do, i am sure they could afford to just close it and just work on all the other forums, remember the DAOC part is a tiny part of the whole, the forum does not revolve around you and your E-Penis.

 

[Fluid]

even if they are its their forum their rules, apply to goa for funding for your own forum and stop acting like children. they dont have to host a forum for DAOC but they do, i am sure they could afford to just close it and just work on all the other forums, remember the DAOC part is a tiny part of the whole, the forum does not revolve around you and your E-Penis.

it's their forum yes, but in any sucessful business input from the customer feedback is taken seriously (and yes believe it or not, this IS a business). The daoc forums are certainly not a small part of these forums either, far from it. As for my e-penis, its fine as it is thanks so stop thinking about my genitals before i start to get worried.

 

[Raven]

wasnt just you but i wasnt sure of the plural for penis

penai maybe?

 

[Gordonax]

who pays GOA?
who has no other outlet to discuss things with the community?
thank you.

What you do with your money is your business. What Goa does with the money you give it is Goa's business, and not yours. You pay money to Goa for playing DAoC (or do you? I thought you quit), not for running forums.

For those with short memories, Goa originally ran its own forums, and shut them when it realised how much shit and spam it would have to deal with.

didn't get an answer so I take it as a yes, they get some funding from GOA, I don't know why in god's name they would run these forums w/o it.

If they are paid by Goa, it's theirs and Goa's business, not yours or mine. And it doesn't mean you as a DAoC subscriber have any right to say what should or should not be modded here. You pay precisely squat to come and chatter here.

 

[Gordonax]

and if there was hardly any people reading these forums from the daoc community goa would still pay for it? don't let what you have against me blind u from reason as it just makes u look stupid

Assuming that everyone who plays DAoC reads these forums puts you on even shakier ground, as I only see a few people whining about the behaviour of the mods. It seems that the vast majority aren't complaining.

And what makes you think I have anything against you? You talk rubbish sometimes but it doesn't mean I have anything against you. I don't disagree with something you say just because you say it - when I disagree with you, it's because of what you said, not who said it.

 

[Gordonax]

it's their forum yes, but in any sucessful business input from the customer feedback is taken seriously (and yes believe it or not, this IS a business).

But again, I only see a handful of people complaining. Why do you assume you represent the majority?

 

[Fluid]

wasnt just you but i wasnt sure of the plural for penis

penai maybe?

dicks

 

[Fluid]

Assuming that everyone who plays DAoC reads these forums puts you on even shakier ground, as I only see a few people whining about the behaviour of the mods. It seems that the vast majority aren't complaining.

And what makes you think I have anything against you? You talk rubbish sometimes but it doesn't mean I have anything against you. I don't disagree with something you say just because you say it - when I disagree with you, it's because of what you said, not who said it.

lol come off it, u r to me like calo is to zoyster, always there to say the polar opposite of him. You accused me of spying with no grounds, jsut another bandwagon jumer. But then again that has nothign to do with this thread. Just because not every single member of the daoc community who disagrees with the current modding posts in this thread doesn't mean the majority are fine with it, really it doesn't prove anything making these threads, but if i see one i'll always be happy to say what i think.

 

[Fluid]

But again, I only see a handful of people complaining. Why do you assume you represent the majority?

where do i assume i represent the majority? maybe u should stop making assumptions first. I speak for myself and nobody else

 

[Gordonax]

lol come off it, u r to me like calo is to zoyster, always there to say the polar opposite of him. You accused me of spying with no grounds, jsut another bandwagon jumer.

Sorry, but I can't find anywhere that I accused you of spying. If you can find where I accused you of spying, please point it out.

But then again that has nothign to do with this thread. Just because not every single member of the daoc community who disagrees with the current modding posts in this thread doesn't mean the majority are fine with it.

No, if people were unhappy they'd simply not bother reading. And of the people that I know who don't read FH anymore, all of them stopped because of the whines/flames/spam, and not a single one because of any actions by the mods.

 

[Flimgoblin]

As far as I know GOA do not give any money to Freddyshouse to run these forums - it's possible I guess but I've never heard anything about it (and I imagine if they did then there'd be a big "sponsored by GOA" stamp on it)

In the same way I doubt the CS forums are sponsored by Valve software, and the WoW forum probably isn't getting funded by Blizzard.

Game.net owned Barrysworld - but the commercial bit of that was the subscription servers - the forums were just the community on the side.

At the moment I believe FH is solely being paid for by Deebs and Tedthedog and any of the forum uses that donate. Maybe some other olde BW types chipping in too... I'm sure one of them can confirm or deny whether they get any sponsorship from game companies - if they do it's the first I've ever heard of it (and I imagine it'd be mentioned in the "GOA don't do any advertising" threads in their defence if they did)

 

[Calo]

lol come off it, u r to me like calo is to zoyster, always there to say the polar opposite of him. You accused me of spying with no grounds, jsut another bandwagon jumer. But then again that has nothign to do with this thread. Just because not every single member of the daoc community who disagrees with the current modding posts in this thread doesn't mean the majority are fine with it, really it doesn't prove anything making these threads, but if i see one i'll always be happy to say what i think.

hmm theres something called sarcasme lol... u know how much fun it is to piss him off :wub: