ml9 thieves revisited part 2

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so requiel i would like a public apology from you accusing me and making me to be a liar and closing my thread.
 

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NiiNjA said:
so requiel i would like a public apology from you accusing me and making me to be a liar and closing my thread.

when u give a public apology for being a prick for the last 3 years, being rude nearly every day, your abusive language, the threats, your theft of artifacts and items and ofc your behavour on the ml raid.

you are in fact a liar and alot worse so therefore i call for raquiel to laugh in your face and then ignore you like the rest of the community will do.

god prats like u make me sick, your the sort of person who will burgle somones house then sue them when u cut your hand carrying their TV away.
 

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NiiNjA said:
so requiel i would like a public apology from you accusing me and making me to be a liar and closing my thread.

offically owned! not ¬¬ he wont apolagise to you, cock.
 

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NiiNjA said:
so requiel i would like a public apology from you accusing me and making me to be a liar and closing my thread.

I'd type a long reply here explaining to you how extremely out of touch with reality you are but I can't cause I'm laughing to loud :(
 

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elbeek said:
I will speak to GoL gm's and see if they intend to remove this pair from guild. If not I will speak to Alpha about having GoL removed from our alliance.

elbeek said:
I agree that it would be nice to see a CT GM make an effort to sort Jarvio out but don't hold yer breath.


elbeek said:
Any GM worth his salt would have removed offenders like Jarvio without hesitation. This is now a community lead action against those 2 griefers and tbtfh good on all who have decided that enough is enough.

oh my.

not on jarvio's side or anything, he is still an utter prick, my point is, now you have to deal with the same thing as the CT GMs, how are you going to deal with it?

its a shame because lookdaddy seemed ok, not as keen to add and grief as some other people.
 

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NiiNjA said:
so requiel i would like a public apology from you accusing me and making me to be a liar and closing my thread.

Who cares? :)

PS:

this thread have alot more potential, if i wouldnt have 2 watch my language :)
 

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Raven said:
oh my.

not on jarvio's side or anything, he is still an utter prick, my point is, now you have to deal with the same thing as the CT GMs, how are you going to deal with it?

its a shame because lookdaddy seemed ok, not as keen to add and grief as some other people.


he will be spanked and spanked and spanked. then he will be forced to drink "real ale" and grow a beard and be mounted by a goat. I shall fine him 60plat and distribute it freely at CS tonight. If u want some of the cash please PM beeks and demand your money :) dont worry beeks like to be PM'ed, he told me only the other day he doesnt get enough PM's

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Ging said:
he will be spanked and spanked and spanked. then he will be forced to drink "real ale" and grow a beard and be mounted by a goat. I shall fine him 60plat and distribute it freely at CS tonight. If u want some of the cash please PM beeks and demand your money :) dont worry beeks like to be PM'ed, he told me only the other day he doesnt get enough PM's

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word, but if i doesnt get the money from beeks, ill pm spam u instead, deal? :)
 

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Such hate for Synergy from a bunch of arrogant tossers...

Despite the fact that they each have their own little problems (like Marc thinking rugby league is a sport) I've played with and chatted with most of the members at some point and they tend to be helpful and honest players.

It sounds like LD made a bad choice, but no matter what El Mole has to say on the subject, that doesn't suddenly excuse 3 years of jackass, piece of shit, abusive asshole behaviour from a selfish and ignorant little bastard with balls the size of a weasel's snooker table.

Plus, it also sounds like LD has decided what he did was a mistake, told the community and worked it out with his friends and guildmates. This is in stark contrast to Jarvio who is an unrepentant twat who still deserves abuse and scorn from the community. It also is no way changes the utter contempt he showed for his realm-mates by handing out the ML9 drops amongst his friends instead of lottoing them like a decent human being.

Tbh I reckon he probably just sits in his mum's house getting off to these whines on FH, so maybe none of us are helping, but I can't just sit back and ignore this shit.
 

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Raven said:
elbeek said:
I will speak to GoL gm's and see if they intend to remove this pair from guild. If not I will speak to Alpha about having GoL removed from our alliance.



elbeek said:
I agree that it would be nice to see a CT GM make an effort to sort Jarvio out but don't hold yer breath.




elbeek said:
Any GM worth his salt would have removed offenders like Jarvio without hesitation. This is now a community lead action against those 2 griefers and tbtfh good on all who have decided that enough is enough.


oh my.

not on jarvio's side or anything, he is still an utter prick, my point is, now you have to deal with the same thing as the CT GMs, how are you going to deal with it?

its a shame because lookdaddy seemed ok, not as keen to add and grief as some other people.

I believe he has already answered this question before it was asked.

elbeek said:
Synergy had nothing to do with this incident whatsover. In fact the guild as a whole were rvring when it happened. I will be speaking to LD about his involvment and take any action I deem neccessary. Any items he has in his possession will be made available for lotto as soon as is practicably possible.

Which is a hell of a lot more than any GM of Jarvio/Maxpower have come up with in the 9 other threads on this same topic.

And yes Lookdaddy is a nice person but made a mistake by accepting an item offered to him by Papa when he should have cancelled the trade, the same way that Impaired did. He did not organise the raid or organise the stealing of the arti's so don't go changing your opinions. They have both posted that they only found out what was happening when the rest of the community did.

Oh and to the person who said this was more interesting than an episode of Eastenders - so is watching paint dry to be honest :)

This is indeed entertaining :flame:
 

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Matmardigan said:
word, but if i doesnt get the money from beeks, ill pm spam u instead, deal? :)


yus! :) i love unloading into boys!
 

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A lot of people here don't seem to realise that papalazerau, the one who posted this thread, is NOT Jarvio.

Raven said:
oh my.

not on jarvio's side or anything, he is still an utter prick, my point is, now you have to deal with the same thing as the CT GMs, how are you going to deal with it?

its a shame because lookdaddy seemed ok, not as keen to add and grief as some other people.
So you're really suggesting that what LD and impaired (who as mentioned gave it back the day after) did by accepting some of the loot, is equivalent to pulling the scam?
 

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Erulin said:
Sorry Film, you are in the know but you are lacking some info... here's the real one :

"03/31/06 22:19:24 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded arcanium Legs of the Aggressor to JohnFKennedy-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:20:03 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Feathered Wrap to LeeHarveyOswald-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:20:18 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Ring of Heavenly Bodies to JohnFKennedy-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:22:31 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded arcanium Legs of the Aggressor to Osama-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:22:54 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded silksteel Woven Feather Boots to JohnFKennedy-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:23:26 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded arcanium Mace of the Tainted to Osama-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:24:38 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Lethal Insightful Runed Wind-wrought Pants to LeeHarveyOswald-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:25:18 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Mystical Runed Wind-wrought Sleeves to JohnFKennedy-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:27:26 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded silksteel Woven Feather Pants to JohnFKennedy-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:30:04 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded arcanium Legs of the Subjugator to Osama-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:31:03 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Stardrop to LeeHarveyOswald-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:31:43 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Cyclone Bracer to JohnFKennedy-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:32:32 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded silksteel Woven Feather Helm to LeeHarveyOswald-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:33:24 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded duskwood Falcon's Talon to JohnFKennedy-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:34:09 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Ring of the Torrent to Osama-Excalibur
03/31/06 22:35:29 Papasmurf-Excalibur traded Gargamel's Boots of Stomping to GeorgeW-Excalibur"


Just Kidding

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(disclaimer : the above log was editted as a joke, please don't come after me George)

Now, if JFK had gotten the thrust-vulnerable chain armour and Lee Harvey Oswald had gotten the Duskwood Falcon's Talon, that could have made for some interesting results...
 

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Void959 said:
So you're really suggesting that what LD and impaired (who as mentioned gave it back the day after) did by accepting some of the loot, is equivalent to pulling the scam?



no i am not, GMs should all show a little bit of common sense, elbeek was all for hanging straight away no questions asked, he may have been right but its down to GMs to deal with it themselves, depending on his or her decision, depends how the community deal with the guild and guild members. shouting the odds then having it smack you back in your face just goes to show that GMs while having an opinion shouldnt be so quick to force people into action.
 

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Ging said:
yus! :) i love unloading into boys!

haha, that was good :)

i assume all synergy guys does :)

PS:

just in case if Marc doesnt get it.

Marc im just kidding :)
 

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Raven said:
no i am not, GMs should all show a little bit of common sense, elbeek was all for hanging straight away no questions asked, he may have been right but its down to GMs to deal with it themselves, depending on his or her decision, depends how the community deal with the guild and guild members. shouting the odds then having it smack you back in your face just goes to show that GMs while having an opinion shouldnt be so quick to force people into action.

Synergy GMs are surprised, apologetic and annoyed with LD. They are planning to make reparations to people who were on the raid.

CT GMs aren't surprised, know Jarvio is an arsehole, attack the community to defend their friend, kick him from the guild for a few hours.

That says to me that Synergy are dealing with it and CT are not dealing with it...
 

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alll i can say is lollerskates weaksauce noob have no idea what it means, but saw it in another thread *shrug*

:m00:
 

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Killswitch said:
Synergy GMs are surprised, apologetic and annoyed with LD. They are planning to make reparations to people who were on the raid.

CT GMs aren't surprised, know Jarvio is an arsehole, attack the community to defend their friend, kick him from the guild for a few hours.

That says to me that Synergy are dealing with it and CT are not dealing with it...

Some very true and very good posts by Killswitch throughout.

It is being dealt with as we consider it should be.
 

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If everyone that took part in this "act of thievery" would step forward and reach up a hand and im sure the community would be forgiving :p This is a loving community, we never flame, zerg and lynch people......
 

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Maybe I am misunderstanding things, but who got the idea that I am trying to "frame" Synergy for this? I'm saying it is obvious that this was a personal choice made by LD and it has nothing to do with his guild. It was Maxpower/Jarvio (or whoever is hiding behind these aliases) and Duact who brought the guild into this, and I defended against that.

As for the apologies, I agree, that would never be expected to come from the community (nor from me). However, the fact is that Requiel himself (i.e. akin to the voice of God in a game like this) told us that LD had nothing to do with the transaction, when in fact he did. This is what I am getting at. Requiel made a mistake there--probably he should not have spoken at all. I guess it is very a tricky balance job, but this time the "divine intervention" did more harm than good.

I'm not on Jarvio's or Maxpower's side by a long shot, not even close, but I do urge for fairness.
 

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was the guild Synergy involved? No

So i doesnt see any reason why Synergy should get blamed for.
And i doesnt understand why u guys make the problem bigger than it is.

Was a memeber from Synergy involved? yes

The member which was involved should give everything he got from the raid free for lotto, if its not done already

He should make a Apologies Thread, not just 4 the iteams he got,
A Apologies 4 his statements and behavior after if they wasnt true.

Lookdaddy have 2 live with the consequences, guess thats enough punishment.

and imo everything will be ok, 4 all.
 

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Belomar said:
As for the apologies, <snip>. However, the fact is that Requiel himself (i.e. akin to the voice of God in a game like this) told us that LD had nothing to do with the transaction, when in fact he did. This is what I am getting at. Requiel made a mistake there--probably he should not have spoken at all. I guess it is very a tricky balance job, but this time the "divine intervention" did more harm than good.

From memory (please quote original if I am wrong) Requiel was responding to accusations about "Lookdaddy", his reply was no items were on the logs as being passed to a toon called "Lookdaddy". However it appears that some were passed to "Homeer", this being LD's alt toon.

I am quite sure he would have given the same answer if "Mr I can't let this subject go because people are being mean to me" would have ranted on about items to Impaired, as Impaired was playing Kaleidascope.
 

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Raven said:
no i am not, GMs should all show a little bit of common sense, elbeek was all for hanging straight away no questions asked, he may have been right but its down to GMs to deal with it themselves, depending on his or her decision, depends how the community deal with the guild and guild members. shouting the odds then having it smack you back in your face just goes to show that GMs while having an opinion shouldnt be so quick to force people into action.

Yes I made my opinions felt over what Maxpower and Jarvio did to the community. They intentionally ripped off many members of the Albion with thier scam. Why am I not "publically" hanging Lookdaddy? Well here is my answer.

Firstly Lookdaddy had absolutely nothing to do with running the raid and was unaware that Jarvio and Max were going to scam folks.

Secondly, Jarvio has a history of scamming and generally acting like a prick to the community. Lookdaddy has never done anything of the sort, in fact he goes out of his way to help people.

I am as surprised and alarmed as many that LD has any of these items. However what he did was make a mistake in trusting wankers like Jarvio and Maxpower. Yes LD has been fucking stupid and has lost alot of credibility by doing this, if I believed for one minute that he was any more involved I would have no hestitation in removing him from the guild.

At least LD has had the bottle to tell guys what his involvment was, unlike Jarvio who still thinks he was perfectly right to scam others.

As I have already stated, I will be retrieving the items LD has and making them available for lotto for those who attended the raid. This will take time as I am not around much over the weekend. Rest assured that at least these items will be available fairly unlike those that Jarvio and Maxpower still have.

Finally, LD's punishment for what has happened will be that people will not trust him for some time to come. As I know him very well, this will hurt more than any other "sanction" that is available to Synergy in game.
 

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Righty then, my bit :p

The Requiel issue, I suggest that people reread requiels post. He was asked "did lookdaddy recieve items" he said "lookdaddy didn't recieve items".
I'd guess that he searched Lookdaddys charachter logs, saw nothing, and posted.
Thats fine, mabey he could have checked all the charachters on the account, but at that time nobody had mentioned LD's alt, so how could he have known otherwise.

Regarding the Lookdaddy issues.
It seeems that he was as innocent as the other people Jarvio gave loot too. From my perspective, it appears that Jarvio passed these items in an attempt to have someone else to blame too, and they accepted (perhaps foolishly, although they had know knowledge of who he was).
Ok, LD has been made to look a bit of a tit, however, he's appologised, and is offering the items up for lotto. That dosnt sound like a player who wants to scam others and steal loot to me.

Jarvio, bye.

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