Noheals-WR
Fledgling Freddie
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ML8 on Friday 7/5/2004 starting 18.00 GMT
Useful Information
I intend to hold a BG for ML8 on Friday 7/5/2004 starting from 18.00 GMT, with the huddle meeting at Aerus. We will set out as soon as the groups are organised and in any case no later than 18.30…be there or be left!
People please try your best to organise or bring a balanced group, or turn on your LFG option…bots will be welcome (as long as there are enough players) as well as non-group classes. There will be no exclusions and people may end up in a less than FOTM group…accept it.
When groups are set and there are people still solo etc I will ask people to take peeps in, please do and we will be a stronger BG.
Do these as a group:
8.4 Centaur's Hunt
8.7 Torso, Agne's Might
8.9 Agne's Spare Arm
And please, as many people/groups do the following sub-quests from 8.5:
You need to speak to Kratos first (21,39 Arbour Glen)
For the quest, you need:
1) Giant Ketos Fillet. This is soloable, so please do it.
2) Ghita's stone. Attempt this one if you can but we will do it on the raid anyhow.
3) Oasis Spring This is soloable so please do it.
4) Kratos' chest Attempt this one, whether we do it on raid day will be down to if we have managed it between now and then.
5) The six heads of Creon's sons.. Attempt this one, whether we do it on raid day will be down to if we have managed it between now and then.
Some items are non tradeable so don’t rely on another grp having spares!
My understanding is that if one group in the entire BG has all the items then the BG will get full credit, My grp will attempt this week to collect all items required. Knowing GOA/Bugs if you leave the collecting to others and just turn up empty handed there is a chance credit will not happen, the only way to safeguard this is to collect a full set yourselves (1 full set per grp). We will not be doing any of the 8.5 prequest steps on the raid except Ghitas Stone, be warned!!
Then the raid gets together and runs:
8.6 Head, Agne's Will
8.1 Agne's Crystal
8.3 Agne's Sword
8.2 Agne's Shield
8.5 Treasure of the Cyclops
8.8 Left Arm, Gorgon's Secret
8.10 Talos's Temple, Agne's Great Might
Have a read before you come so that you know what is required:
www.visionofsages.com
I will hold the BG and during times where any co-ordination is required the BG will be set to listen only with each group leader being set at /bg leader so the groups opinions can be voiced (sensibly).
Treasure/Loots/Lottos and other areas or embitterment and grief!
The /bg treasurer option will be set to a trusted colleague with a loot level of 34. As I am in WR, the treasurer will also be a WR.
During lotto BG will be listen only.
Treasurers decision if final.
Any key drops for chests will be done as soon as we have all keys and will be “commando” style as listed below i.e. random 100 on my /yell. Keys and their pops do not count as an item for the main roll…key winners may roll again in main lotto.
Any ML Respec stones that drop will be done as above. They do not count as a win and the person may also roll on the main lotto.
Items to be lottoed will be as follows:
Only items 99% and 100% quality will be lottoed at the end of the raid.
All Scrolls
All Legendary Weapon Components
Due to the improved option of drag/drop delves the lotto rules for this raid will be different:
1.All items will be drag/dropped into the BG window. If we get time to arrange them into groups we will (as 1,2,3 above)
2.5 minutes will be given for people to take notes, decide what they want and organise their thoughts.
3.Each item will be dropped in the same order into the window.
4.The treasurer will say “random /1000 now”
5.All interested parties will roll in a 10 second window, keep sharp people.
6.The winner gets it and runs away to find out how much they can sell it for.
7.Repeat items 3-6 till end.
If we have millions of scrolls the following will be applied:
Round 1 = 1 Scroll choice per win
Round 2 = 3 Scroll choice per win
Round 3 = Everyone remaining scrolls random /1000 winner takes all
Assuming we need at least 4fg I don’t expect to go to round 3, but if I do I’ll make it up as we go along.
1 roll per actively playing human i.e. Fred and his bot only get one roll. No class/usage restrictions etc i.e. the highest roll gets the best stuff. Sell it, wear it, tease your guildies with it…its yours.
When you have an item you will not get another till round 2 i.e. when everyone has something (not very likely)
General Rules
On the first instance of someone pulling/clicking/fiddling with a mob and not listening that person will be kicked. This is a major problem on raids and an example will be made, just don’t do it!
Anyone that does not listen will be booted (gets people wiped)
Anyone that asks about loot before the end will be booted (personal bug-bear)
Anyone that asks if we can do things in a different order will be ignored (the sequence is defined above, or as BG leaders decide)
Anyone that whines about loot will be executed (I will find an obliging troll to do this, it will be horrible)
Anyone caught cheating will be removed from the lotto (cheats never prosper, well not on my raids)
Speed
We will move on normal speed throughout the raid, this will allow laggers, LD’ers and their groups to catch up. Also makes /stick easier for bots.
LD(New Rules due to hours of waiting for LD’s)
Anyone can LD…I appreciate this but with larger zergs the problem is compounded, these are the LD rules:
1/2nd Individuals LD’s – We will wait a maximum of 3 minutes and move to the next step position, we will wait before pulling.
3rd Individuals LD-We will wait a maximum of 3 minutes and move to the next step position, we will not wait before pulling.
More than 3 Individuals LD-We will no longer wait for that individual.
On each occasion it will be upto the LD’s Group to make the decision to move with the zerg or wait for the LD’er.
If you are prone to LD’s sort your options before you come on the raid (set to best frame rate) and if you are on dial up tell the BG you need to redial (T-10) then it can be planned in a safe area.
AFK’ers (New rules due to 50% of people being along for the ride!)
Throughout the raid we will have breaks of about 5 minutes to get cold beer, have a smoke etc when it is safe to do so.
If you go need to go AFK choose a good time and get your grp to agree they can survive without you!
If your group moans that you are AFK I will kick you on the first instance.
Anyone that is AFK and does not accept a rezz will be kicked on first instance.
The rules may seem a bit draconian but the stricter we are the quicker it will get done and the happier all will be, on my last raids everyone has been well behaved…no rules have yet been invoked!
So for all you peeps missing ML8, speak to your guilds, post on private forums, grab a guild grp, grab a few friends, purchase slaves, coerce GF’s and I’ll see you Friday.
Sign up below and we’ll see if we can get the numbers required (looking like 4-6FG’s), if we don’t have enough people signed up by Thursday 2200 I’ll call the raid off.
If anyone has any comments/questions feel free to ask but I reserve the right to ignore or if it’s a good idea or comment I’ll steal it and amend accordingly. This will be my first raid, so go easy on me and we’ll all have fun.
Cheers
ML8 on Friday 7/5/2004 starting 18.00 GMT
Useful Information
I intend to hold a BG for ML8 on Friday 7/5/2004 starting from 18.00 GMT, with the huddle meeting at Aerus. We will set out as soon as the groups are organised and in any case no later than 18.30…be there or be left!
People please try your best to organise or bring a balanced group, or turn on your LFG option…bots will be welcome (as long as there are enough players) as well as non-group classes. There will be no exclusions and people may end up in a less than FOTM group…accept it.
When groups are set and there are people still solo etc I will ask people to take peeps in, please do and we will be a stronger BG.
Do these as a group:
8.4 Centaur's Hunt
8.7 Torso, Agne's Might
8.9 Agne's Spare Arm
And please, as many people/groups do the following sub-quests from 8.5:
You need to speak to Kratos first (21,39 Arbour Glen)
For the quest, you need:
1) Giant Ketos Fillet. This is soloable, so please do it.
2) Ghita's stone. Attempt this one if you can but we will do it on the raid anyhow.
3) Oasis Spring This is soloable so please do it.
4) Kratos' chest Attempt this one, whether we do it on raid day will be down to if we have managed it between now and then.
5) The six heads of Creon's sons.. Attempt this one, whether we do it on raid day will be down to if we have managed it between now and then.
Some items are non tradeable so don’t rely on another grp having spares!
My understanding is that if one group in the entire BG has all the items then the BG will get full credit, My grp will attempt this week to collect all items required. Knowing GOA/Bugs if you leave the collecting to others and just turn up empty handed there is a chance credit will not happen, the only way to safeguard this is to collect a full set yourselves (1 full set per grp). We will not be doing any of the 8.5 prequest steps on the raid except Ghitas Stone, be warned!!
Then the raid gets together and runs:
8.6 Head, Agne's Will
8.1 Agne's Crystal
8.3 Agne's Sword
8.2 Agne's Shield
8.5 Treasure of the Cyclops
8.8 Left Arm, Gorgon's Secret
8.10 Talos's Temple, Agne's Great Might
Have a read before you come so that you know what is required:
www.visionofsages.com
I will hold the BG and during times where any co-ordination is required the BG will be set to listen only with each group leader being set at /bg leader so the groups opinions can be voiced (sensibly).
Treasure/Loots/Lottos and other areas or embitterment and grief!
The /bg treasurer option will be set to a trusted colleague with a loot level of 34. As I am in WR, the treasurer will also be a WR.
During lotto BG will be listen only.
Treasurers decision if final.
Any key drops for chests will be done as soon as we have all keys and will be “commando” style as listed below i.e. random 100 on my /yell. Keys and their pops do not count as an item for the main roll…key winners may roll again in main lotto.
Any ML Respec stones that drop will be done as above. They do not count as a win and the person may also roll on the main lotto.
Items to be lottoed will be as follows:
Only items 99% and 100% quality will be lottoed at the end of the raid.
All Scrolls
All Legendary Weapon Components
Due to the improved option of drag/drop delves the lotto rules for this raid will be different:
1.All items will be drag/dropped into the BG window. If we get time to arrange them into groups we will (as 1,2,3 above)
2.5 minutes will be given for people to take notes, decide what they want and organise their thoughts.
3.Each item will be dropped in the same order into the window.
4.The treasurer will say “random /1000 now”
5.All interested parties will roll in a 10 second window, keep sharp people.
6.The winner gets it and runs away to find out how much they can sell it for.
7.Repeat items 3-6 till end.
If we have millions of scrolls the following will be applied:
Round 1 = 1 Scroll choice per win
Round 2 = 3 Scroll choice per win
Round 3 = Everyone remaining scrolls random /1000 winner takes all
Assuming we need at least 4fg I don’t expect to go to round 3, but if I do I’ll make it up as we go along.
1 roll per actively playing human i.e. Fred and his bot only get one roll. No class/usage restrictions etc i.e. the highest roll gets the best stuff. Sell it, wear it, tease your guildies with it…its yours.
When you have an item you will not get another till round 2 i.e. when everyone has something (not very likely)
General Rules
On the first instance of someone pulling/clicking/fiddling with a mob and not listening that person will be kicked. This is a major problem on raids and an example will be made, just don’t do it!
Anyone that does not listen will be booted (gets people wiped)
Anyone that asks about loot before the end will be booted (personal bug-bear)
Anyone that asks if we can do things in a different order will be ignored (the sequence is defined above, or as BG leaders decide)
Anyone that whines about loot will be executed (I will find an obliging troll to do this, it will be horrible)
Anyone caught cheating will be removed from the lotto (cheats never prosper, well not on my raids)
Speed
We will move on normal speed throughout the raid, this will allow laggers, LD’ers and their groups to catch up. Also makes /stick easier for bots.
LD(New Rules due to hours of waiting for LD’s)
Anyone can LD…I appreciate this but with larger zergs the problem is compounded, these are the LD rules:
1/2nd Individuals LD’s – We will wait a maximum of 3 minutes and move to the next step position, we will wait before pulling.
3rd Individuals LD-We will wait a maximum of 3 minutes and move to the next step position, we will not wait before pulling.
More than 3 Individuals LD-We will no longer wait for that individual.
On each occasion it will be upto the LD’s Group to make the decision to move with the zerg or wait for the LD’er.
If you are prone to LD’s sort your options before you come on the raid (set to best frame rate) and if you are on dial up tell the BG you need to redial (T-10) then it can be planned in a safe area.
AFK’ers (New rules due to 50% of people being along for the ride!)
Throughout the raid we will have breaks of about 5 minutes to get cold beer, have a smoke etc when it is safe to do so.
If you go need to go AFK choose a good time and get your grp to agree they can survive without you!
If your group moans that you are AFK I will kick you on the first instance.
Anyone that is AFK and does not accept a rezz will be kicked on first instance.
The rules may seem a bit draconian but the stricter we are the quicker it will get done and the happier all will be, on my last raids everyone has been well behaved…no rules have yet been invoked!
So for all you peeps missing ML8, speak to your guilds, post on private forums, grab a guild grp, grab a few friends, purchase slaves, coerce GF’s and I’ll see you Friday.
Sign up below and we’ll see if we can get the numbers required (looking like 4-6FG’s), if we don’t have enough people signed up by Thursday 2200 I’ll call the raid off.
If anyone has any comments/questions feel free to ask but I reserve the right to ignore or if it’s a good idea or comment I’ll steal it and amend accordingly. This will be my first raid, so go easy on me and we’ll all have fun.
Cheers
