Ml5.2

[Coren]

The step where the mob splits into the scarabs. Been hearing lots of different things about this, so wondered if anyone had anything to say. Basically it seems that since the patch he's pretty much impossible to do without pbae or arrows - kinda stupid for an encounter limited to 8 people but ok...just been trying it without either and getting nowhere. VoS reckons its melee attacks that cause the splitting but we still got it even with only ice pet spammage and smiting.

Any tips, esp from albs? Post-1.69 please as I think it was changed then.

 

[Coccas]

armsmen, infs and mercs could use bows, casters dd or whatever, dunno any other effective way, make sure you dont use dmg add

 

[Tir]

Alterantivly, if no pbaoe and no arrows are avaliable, use 2 handed tanks, with no haste, no da etc, hitting with hardest styles and a bleed. Have all but those tanks stand outside the room. When he splits (which he will), just run out and kill the 4-10 bugs that come out as quick as possible and he will reform. Rinse, repeat till dead (3 splits with 2 2handers when we did it). This will work without 2 handers (done it with 2 h2h savages as only tanks), but the less damage you do per hit the longer it takes, he will die though.

Goodluck.

 

[Fana]

This is a good tactic we used when we didnt have any pbae:

Attack as usuall with all you got, when he splits run out of room as fast as you can. Kill the few mobs that follow out and then have one person stand in the doorway of the room, not to far in, and not to far out (there is a sweetspot you have to find). This will cause rest of mobs to move towards you but they will not reach you, instead they will despawn at the stairs inside the room. With this tactic you can clear the room as fast as with pbae and boss will respawn only having healed very little.

 

[yaruar]

when we did it pre patch we did it pure meelee with 1 handers. The trick i found was that you can stop him from regenerating whilst the scarabs are up. When he transforms you can retarget him and keep hitting him for a while. if one person does this he doesn't regenerate as much. Bleed styles can work like this too, but you need to kill the scarabs quickly.

But the key is as much damage in as few hits as possible. The splits happen at a certain number of hits. The archer trick is because his code didn't (and maybe still doesn't) count arrows as hits.

 

[Zede]

Have done this encounter about 9 times now, 9 different groups, all post patch.

2 methods :

1) Tank engages mob, but does not hit. Any one with a bow, fire in MELEE range only. Mob will not split.

2) Tank Engages, but does not hit. Pbaoe to death.

These are guaranteed was to stop the mob from splitting. You can use dd, smite etc....but in my experience the mob WILL split.

 

[Flimgoblin]

he seems to split after X attacks - from any source.

It might ignore arrows for this or it might just be that arrows are a lot of damage per hit.

If you have low damage high survivability folks the only way to do it is to run out of the room when he splits and hope that the scarabs don't follow you out so there's few enough of them to kill before the anti-kite healing code kicks in.

It's a buggy encounter - if he didn't heal naturally when split (just the free 10% he gets when reforming ... note the broadcast) it would be doable with any sort of setup - a mezz/kill scarabs singly would work - it'd take longer but still be possible.

 

[Pin]

3 real methods:

1) PBAE - can still be troublesome.

2) Arrows - takes a long time.

3) Petspam + nuke - spam lvl 7 pets and drop him without hassle in 15seconds total, no splits (do the same on all other Echoes).

Last group I had on ML5 were done with all group trials inside 45 minutes (and had to wait on a pop for 1 encounter) - we had 2 theurgs.

 

[Coren]

Why low level pets, out of curiosity? I suggested this today but the theurg said they all cost the same % power so there was no point. He doesn't usually play a theurg though so maybe we both missed something.

We did it today with "uber" grp setup (cleric x4 theurg, inf, pally, friar) and the petspam and nuke thing didn't work (probably cos of only 1 theurg with limited pow and smiters), but using slow weapons and legging it fast did. We found he regained less health when we fought him in the middle and used a modest amount of petspam, presumably because it prevents the scarabs from spreading as far as they aggro the pet, so he has less time to regen.

Anyway, guess what we didn't get....starts with a C, ends with a redit...

Also it took friggin ages.

 

[katt!]

Why low level pets, out of curiosity?

because they wont hit him :x

 

[aslird]

Just tried this tonight with warrior taunt then engage, and a hunter shooting it with arrows. The boss didn't split once, and warrior only lost aggro once as well. He died in < 5 minutes, but we didn't get credit either ((

Mythic :touch: :touch: uke:

 

[Elendar]

we did it with standard melee grp, just everyone trying to stay in combat with him, healers casting stuns, savages taunt shouts, skald dds, while shaman and bot doted and bd nuked, got it down eventually

 

[Coren]

because they wont hit him :x

We used ice pets so they didn't anyway - but the power cost for all levels is the same right?

 

[Pin]

We used ice pets so they didn't anyway - but the power cost for all levels is the same right?

the powercost is the same, but that's not the point.

the mob splits after X number of melee hits.
spamming pets on the mob increases the attacker-count so you can all hit easily and for higher damage.
if you use high level earth pets, they will start hitting the mob with a few on it, and thus cause a split.
spamming ice pets is stupid as they have a short life so the attacker-count is only raised for a short time.

therefore, spam lvl 7 earth pets and easily kill it while all the pets are still there.

 

[Teiten]

running out of the room when he splits works very well.

thing is that you need to run outside at once and hope that you dont get much agro.. the more scarabs you kill the more he seems to regen.

you could also combine this with the other strats as well i suppose. ;o

 

[Coren]

Finally got credit for it, had no theurg this time but used ice wiz with scout and merc shooting and a pally holding aggro (but not hitting), still got a split but we got out fast enough and worked fine. Pretty quick too.