ML 1 to 10 rush overe 2 days

reaveruse

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I am planning on doing A ml1 to ml10 rush over 2 days this will be held on Excalibur server date 2nd and 3rd of December am giving plenty of notice so ppl can get there ml pres dun and dusted in plenty of time

Start time for this will be 11 am GMT on sed dates

I will post who will have the BG the day before the raid is on the so it will be up to you to check this post/forum to find out

Rules

THIS 1 IS A MUST SEE THE ARBITOR BEFOR YOU JOIN MY ML RIAD

ML pres steps are to be out of the way before the raid

ML1 pres are 1/2/4/5 and I will only do 1.3 if BG asks for this step
ML2 are 5/8
ML3 are none
ML4 are 1/3
ML5 are 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/ ml5.9 will be dun wit the BG
ML6 are 1/5
ML7 are 1/2/3/4/5/6
ML8 are 4/9
ML9 are ml3 active to enter
ML10 are ml9 active

I will not change my rules for no reason unless I see fit to do so which I don’t think I will need to if ppl reed this

Remember to bring along what you your self will need for the raid water pots etcetera unless I say different in this post

BG
The BG will open usually 30 mins before the raid and the raid will leave promptly at the sed time and dates. If you’re late it is you’re responsibility to catch up.
I will ignore all pms except from my ppl I wish to be pm’d from

Loot level and scrolls for all raids
Will be set to /bg lootlevel 40 unless I need a drop from 1 part of an ml ( say ml2.3 for the key) so all scrolls will not fill my inventory up on which char/chars I will be taking along

Drops
All MP and 99% drops will be collected any others will be destroyed/dropped. The only exceptions will be particularly good drops, which will be at my discretion.
Scrolls will not be collected in the bg the kill player grp will get the scrolls

Credit
If you miss credit for a step you are expected to message me then /target, /stick me. This is because you need to be 1000 units from me to be granted credit.

AFK's
This is the most annoying part of ML's, people just coming along for the ride, to avoid this there will be regular breaks after each ml there will be 15 to 30 mins brake depending on which ml we are on at the time to let people have a drink etc. This is also time for those who need to redial to do so. Make sure you return on time we will not wait for late people.
AFK's are to be monitored by the group leaders,

Speed
We will be running normal speed in order to let lagers keep up, I suggest you run speed in your group so that you remain with the zerg.

General Rule’s
If anyone at all tries to pull/click on/fiddle the mob in any way I will kick him or her.

Anyone trying to rush the zerg along will be kicked, if I see reason to. If you are not behind me unless otherwise stated you are in the wrong.

Anyone or grp or BG who I ask to do something whether it’s a player or grp I will kicked them from the BG, I will not have a wipe out because someone decided they knew better if I think there suggestion is a good I will more than likely do it (but good advise will all ways be taken in if I think this is needed I will ask for it)

Loot and lotto
I will find pick sum 1 from the bg or my grp to help me with the lotto roll to pick out which number is next and who it is
During the lotto bg will be set to listen only until all loot has been shown in the BG

Keys will not be for the lotto I preclaim them

2 other item I will pres claim from the hole ml1 to ml10 (ml2.10 saying it drops cleric chain vest and from ml10 astral blade of illusion) but only if they drop on sed ml levels

All drops that are not 99% and 100% quality items will be destroyed on the spot

Depending on the number of drops they will all be /random 1000 at once, or I will say to got to the relevant loot holder, all will roll at the same time.

As from my last ml rush raid I have learned a lot about what I need to no and other things I have taken this all on board and benefited form it all
 

Coriolanus

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reaveruse said:
I am planning on doing A ml1 to ml10 rush over 2 days this will be held on Excalibur server date 2nd and 3rd of December am giving plenty of notice so ppl can get there ml pres dun and dusted in plenty of time

Start time for this will be 11 am GMT on sed dates

I will post who will have the BG the day before the raid is on the so it will be up to you to check this post/forum to find out

Rules

THIS 1 IS A MUST SEE THE ARBITOR BEFOR YOU JOIN MY ML RIAD

ML pres steps are to be out of the way before the raid

ML1 pres are 1/2/4/5 and I will only do 1.3 if BG asks for this step
ML2 are 5/8
ML3 are none
ML4 are 1/3
ML5 are 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/ ml5.9 will be dun wit the BG
ML6 are 1/5
ML7 are 1/2/3/4/5/6
ML8 are 4/9
ML9 are ml3 active to enter
ML10 are ml9 active

I will not change my rules for no reason unless I see fit to do so which I don’t think I will need to if ppl reed this

Remember to bring along what you your self will need for the raid water pots etcetera unless I say different in this post

BG
The BG will open usually 30 mins before the raid and the raid will leave promptly at the sed time and dates. If you’re late it is you’re responsibility to catch up.
I will ignore all pms except from my ppl I wish to be pm’d from

Loot level and scrolls for all raids
Will be set to /bg lootlevel 40 unless I need a drop from 1 part of an ml ( say ml2.3 for the key) so all scrolls will not fill my inventory up on which char/chars I will be taking along

Drops
All MP and 99% drops will be collected any others will be destroyed/dropped. The only exceptions will be particularly good drops, which will be at my discretion.
Scrolls will not be collected in the bg the kill player grp will get the scrolls

Credit
If you miss credit for a step you are expected to message me then /target, /stick me. This is because you need to be 1000 units from me to be granted credit.

AFK's
This is the most annoying part of ML's, people just coming along for the ride, to avoid this there will be regular breaks after each ml there will be 15 to 30 mins brake depending on which ml we are on at the time to let people have a drink etc. This is also time for those who need to redial to do so. Make sure you return on time we will not wait for late people.
AFK's are to be monitored by the group leaders,

Speed
We will be running normal speed in order to let lagers keep up, I suggest you run speed in your group so that you remain with the zerg.

General Rule’s
If anyone at all tries to pull/click on/fiddle the mob in any way I will kick him or her.

Anyone trying to rush the zerg along will be kicked, if I see reason to. If you are not behind me unless otherwise stated you are in the wrong.

Anyone or grp or BG who I ask to do something whether it’s a player or grp I will kicked them from the BG, I will not have a wipe out because someone decided they knew better if I think there suggestion is a good I will more than likely do it (but good advise will all ways be taken in if I think this is needed I will ask for it)

Loot and lotto
I will find pick sum 1 from the bg or my grp to help me with the lotto roll to pick out which number is next and who it is
During the lotto bg will be set to listen only until all loot has been shown in the BG

Keys will not be for the lotto I preclaim them

2 other item I will pres claim from the hole ml1 to ml10 (ml2.10 saying it drops cleric chain vest and from ml10 astral blade of illusion) but only if they drop on sed ml levels

All drops that are not 99% and 100% quality items will be destroyed on the spot

Depending on the number of drops they will all be /random 1000 at once, or I will say to got to the relevant loot holder, all will roll at the same time.

As from my last ml rush raid I have learned a lot about what I need to no and other things I have taken this all on board and benefited form it all

Um do you really need a full page of clauses for people's behaviour. I've run dozens of ml raids and never needed more than time, place and ML.

Also, Ive never ever kicked anyone from a BG, as the mark of a good raid leader is to complete a raid with everyone else AFK. I usually find when the BG is undisciplined, it is usually the raid leader's fault for not actually observing its state of things closely enough. If people are AFK and stuck to you just ask another group to do what ever you needed to do.

Don't want to put you down or anything, but theres been too many impatient and badly behaved raid leaders in the past, and best way to deal with aggro is strong cup of tea rather than threats and ultimately expulsion.
 

Golena

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Coriolanus said:
theres been too many impatient and badly behaved raid leaders in the past

Agree..

The best way to mess up an ML rush is to start randomly kicking people from the BG.
If your expecting people to come to 10 ML's in 2 days then you won't ever have 100% concentration from the BG during it. If you can't handle running the raid with 40-50% of the BG afking then leading ML rushes is probably not a great idea.
There's about 5 encounters in the entire rush that require people to pay attention. The best way to get that is to not impose lots of rules during the other 90 just zerg it meights steps.

Then lots of people create 8 billion rules at the start just to cover themselves when they do actually need to act on an idiot in the BG and show sensible discression during the actual raid, so if that's the case then it should be fine..
 

Arelas

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M8 u need to learn a bit more will i say before u run raids because last it was take 8 hours to do ml1-ml5 when it normal take 5 hours tops

Am just try to say it as it get boring when it take so long to get done with the hole and 5 mins break after each raid are more then enough to peep can speak to arbitor and get bk.
 

Sarisir

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I'll be there on mincer I hope

And to give a remark to all the hassle, if you people dont like his raids, I suggest you stay away.. If you dont like what he writes, then ignore it and move on... Stop posting flames cuz someone new tries to do something for the realm and you dont agree with the methods
 

reaveruse

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Phule_Gubben said:
I won't be joining on another claimraid anyway.

Good luck!


nps so take it u will not be going on shanessa precliam raid then ?
 

Golena

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Since you posted in your last thread about how you wern't sure about which items you needed for each raid here's what you need to buy from the merchant before setting out..

ML1:

Rassa's mirror
nedfall entrapment gem
belt of absorbtion
ruby (maybe more than one if you have a small BG)

ML2:

Hidden door key
Stone key
Cellar key
One of the other keys that isn't the north gate one (mossy for example)
The sword, shield and 2 staffs (one of each at least)

ML3:

gremma eel stomach

ML4:

The 6 stones for .7
dahein(sp) blood
marid figurine

ML5:

The 3 items you need for 5.9

ML6:

The snake tail, siam'he head and salamander ash.

ML7:

nothing

ML8:

Talos's control crystal

ML9:

4 control crystals (normally easiest just to collect these on the raid, you'll find plenty to save yourself some cash).


If you don't have all these then forget pre-claiming, or running multiple ML's in a day. It will just go way too slow.
 

thergador

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reaveruse said:
nps so take it u will not be going on shanessa precliam raid then ?

theres a difference between your raids and shans m8

and ill let you work out what for your self
 

reaveruse

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Golena thanks much for that m8

shanessa was on my last ml rush with me she sed she had all the parts for all ml steps on her so yess we did have them all

she was supos to be helping me and showing me the how to's of all steps i dident no

yet she just rushes on and did them and never sed wich bits or the how to's

this realy helps and with what i lernd from the last rush i think this net one shuold run 100% better :)
 

pinkey

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reaveruse said:
nps so take it u will not be going on shanessa precliam raid then ?
Tbh they experience shan has with raids and the number they have run i dont think claiming one set of remains is bad, they deserve them, unlike you who happens to be preclaiming things just because you can, if you were a good ml leader then ppl wouldnt complain too much about the preclaiming but its makes you look very selfish imo.
 

reaveruse

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pinkey said:
Tbh they experience shan has with raids and the number they have run i dont think claiming one set of remains is bad, they deserve them, unlike you who happens to be preclaiming things just because you can, if you were a good ml leader then ppl wouldnt complain too much about the preclaiming but its makes you look very selfish imo.

i no m8 and i no he/she hase lots of ml riad exp wich i dont and was realying on him for help on my last riad wich i got sort of from ml1 to 5 on the ferst day and hardly any on the second day

infact on the second day there was lots of help from players 1 mo than any utheres samoldsong help lots omore than shan tbh
 

Phule_Gubben

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Tbh I think this will be a lonely raid, your actions on this weekends raid really says it all, you even didn't know how to deal with the ML's, you hadn't all the stuff needed and you still pre-claimed a shitload of things that are some of the only things ppl join to roll on.

If that's not greed then I'm not sure what it is.
 

reaveruse

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Phule_Gubben said:
Tbh I think this will be a lonely raid, your actions on this weekends raid really says it all, you even didn't know how to deal with the ML's, you hadn't all the stuff needed and you still pre-claimed a shitload of things that are some of the only things ppl join to roll on.

If that's not greed then I'm not sure what it is.

nice avy and cute

shanessa was on ceania and he/she was supos to be helping out he/she was supos to have all items he/she dident help much
 

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reaveruse said:
nice avy and cute

shanessa was on ceania and he/she was supos to be helping out he/she was supos to have all items he/she dident help much

After the way you conducted yourself, who would?
 

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reaveruse said:
nice avy and cute

shanessa was on ceania and he/she was supos to be helping out he/she was supos to have all items he/she dident help much
Shan was in pms with me all day on the first part and you'd refused to let them help you, so they thought why bother tbh. You shouldn't rely on anyone else as a raid leader you should only depend on yourself.
 

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i was ther eand helped trow ml 1 to 5 on saturday spended 11 houers in bg started the bg at 10.30 in morning my time as english time is a bit confusing

you was given all info ina e mail before raid how steps was done according to vos most of that info still working only 3 steps are done diffrent nowdays


i left at ml 6 becuse i went angry when i was told about youer preclaim of all remains its not a way a ml leader should do as first ml rush like you did preclaim all that reimas

over more then several mls i have preclaimed only 8 times and been on own pocket payued the ml things and never really asked the ml players give anything back only one have hive me items to mls and that is a moderator here who given me about 50 items in past from presteps before the 1.84 was launced witch i was gratefull fore

and you was in my group and i explained the steps int hat grupp windowa s good i could you of all peoople know how my english are


to become skilled in mls is to play those over and over many times and you be a good leader and albs will fallow you
 

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Shannesa said:
i was ther eand helped trow ml 1 to 5 on saturday spended 11 houers in bg started the bg at 10.30 in morning my time as english time is a bit confusing

you was given all info ina e mail before raid how steps was done according to vos most of that info still working only 3 steps are done diffrent nowdays


i left at ml 6 becuse i went angry when i was told about youer preclaim of all remains its not a way a ml leader should do as first ml rush like you did preclaim all that reimas

over more then several mls i have preclaimed only 8 times and been on own pocket payued the ml things and never really asked the ml players give anything back only one have hive me items to mls and that is a moderator here who given me about 50 items in past from presteps before the 1.84 was launced witch i was gratefull fore

and you was in my group and i explained the steps int hat grupp windowa s good i could you of all peoople know how my english are


to become skilled in mls is to play those over and over many times and you be a good leader and albs will fallow you


Well said shan :)

Rep for you:worthy: :worthy:
 

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reaveruse said:
nice avy and cute

shanessa was on ceania and he/she was supos to be helping out he/she was supos to have all items he/she dident help much

Really get over yourself..

You ran a raid, preclaimed a load of stuff and your excuse for why it went wrong is that someone else didn't do it for you. You preclaimed items on a raid, that implies not only YOU had the items to do it but had some idea what you were doing.. You expect people to let you keep half the loot if your not even able to actually lead the raid? Geez!

Pathetic is about the only way I can sum up this statement! :puke:
 

thergador

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TBH m8 id give up tring to to defend what you did your 1st ml rush, it was run badly (your raid, not shan's may i just add why on earth shan would fork out about 5plat to help run your mlrush i dont know). it the sign of a bad leader if they don't have a contingency plan for instance i have a necro logged and ready to rock for steps that we might need it zystem personal vault has the items ready in it for sunday all ready. just a little forethought and planning goes a long way(and i learnt to do this by listening to comments from other people such as this one)

next,as your second ml rush is something to be see yet we cant judge if you learnt, how ever running a raid and saying every grp must have a speed class is a mistake imo and id expect to see FH flaming for that after the event if you still do it. lets put it this albs tend to bring lots of one type of class and if that anit a speed class there goes your plan, not to mention lag and just because you have speed dont mean your raids going to any quicker,
its about being a leader of men on battle field not a dictator which is what i have read from your other post's

as for precliaming loot learn to raid 1st, before you carry on doing that or some might just decide to run there own raid at the same time with out pre-claims (and i'm sure albs would go with a more experienced leader when they are not preclaiming)

to summaries
it was your raid hence your own fault it went wrong
pre-claiming is giving out signals that your a very greedy person
think about rules (speed class) does it make since
imo go back and run single mls till you know them and how to handle people
not saying give up m8 as alb will always need replacement when other riad leaders retire but hell your not going to make a good raid leader if you carry on as it is, as the only thing i seem to be reading is bad comments and you trying to defend your self

this is not meant as a personal attack m8 so dont take it the wrong way but i do think that you should step back and look at what people are saying to you
 

Arelas

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agreed with u there zeus, many try to help him so it was run better but most of the time he say the shan help him, but after what i see then was none help him and it was piss me a bit off about lotto when i was higher then some other and not got what i was after :/..

But i will say to u thepianfull the u shall drop the pre-claim... because then will i not come on u mls the i get boring when it take so long :twak:

Was there first day and was surpised about the it was take 4 hours to run ml1 and ml2 alone :/
 

necromania

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thergador said:
it was your raid hence your own fault it went wrong

Not allways True, Might be in this case ofc..
thergador said:
pre-claiming is giving out signals that your a very greedy person

In this case yes. but when ppl like shan runs Raids, it has nothing to do with greed

thergador said:
think about rules (speed class) does it make since

Pathetic

thergador said:
imo go back and run single mls till you know them and how to handle people
100% agree
 

Golena

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thergador said:
how ever running a raid and saying every grp must have a speed class is a mistake imo and id expect to see FH flaming for that after the event if you still do it.

I'm all for flaming idiots but I think you've misread this part of his post..

He's saying that he is going to move at normal speed but people should turn on speed in other groups in order to keep up.
This actually makes alot of sense, since it means the other groups will actually be moving faster than he is, so when they lag they will then quickly catch back up to him.

Groups without speed will be moving at the same speed as him so if you don't have a speed class your at no greater disadvantage than normal.
 

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