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what are doing if not assuming then?

youre assuming shes simply just overweight, just because she is.

you should drop the know it all attitude and accept others have valid points. you do not know everything, you know what i know. if you cant accept someone else will think something different then take heed of this saying:

never think youre always right - it makes you look like a twat.
 

Bugz

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I never said she was simply overweight.

I'm just doing the respectful thing and not pre-judging or assuming.
 

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so for tris and bugz we can conclude:
one is a narrow minded twat, the ohter a Idealistic blue eyed mommas boy!

now both of you strip down and line up for a good old paddle wacking administered by Dean. Tohtori and Profersor Crock'in'a'Box

and when they are done with you, watch these pictures for a minimum of 3mins a piece!

fat-chair2.jpg
FatGirl.jpg
adult_nude_fat_girl.jpg
 

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you must be assuming something.
how do you explain her overweight-ness then, from your view of it? im sure you can see shes got some extra fat sticking out, and a flabby chin? body fat doesnt have any benefit beyond a point.

to do that youll have to assume something.
 

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You know fuck all about the lass apart from shes in the competition for Miss. England.

I'm just doing the respectful thing and not pre-judging or assuming.

You made an assumption right there. He might of gone to school with her for all you know!
Now stop pretending your some how better than everyone else in the universe. It gets tiring rather quickly.
 

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Oh such a strong arguement you have Golena.

same as mine and i think mine is pretty strong.

youre assuming things and telling other people not to, but only because what they assume is negative in your opinion.
 

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So how does her being overweight show the attitude of Britain?

You know fuck all about the lass apart from shes in the competition for Miss. England.
How overweight/unfit you are is not based on your size it is based on your BMI, which i doubt you bothered to look up but never mind.

Digging around she is 12st 8lb, 5ft 10in t
Source: First ever size 16 girl reaches Miss England final | Mail Online

Based on the BMI calculator on the NHS website
Source: Body Mass Index (BMI) Calculator - NHS Direct
You are overweight for your height
Your BMI is 25.5

If your BMI is between 25 and 29.9 you're over the ideal weight for your height. Make sure you eat a healthy, well-balanced diet and don't eat more calories than you need to.

If you're trying to lose weight, get more exercise and avoid snacking and 'crash' diets. If you carry your weight around your stomach, you're 'apple-shaped', rather than 'pear-shaped'. This means you're at more risk of health problems, so you really need to get your weight down.

So she is indeed overweight

tris wins (and owes me a rep for the effort :D)
 

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i google imaged weigh height ratios but couldnt find anything official.

while i dont like the BMI scale for everyone, for her it probably fits well. i dont think she is a bodybuilder packing active tissue under all the fat so its likely her extra mass is fat over her skeletal and organ masses etc, in otherwords her lean mass.

though chronic, you can hardly call reading the origional link "digging around", lol :D
 

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pft how many people actually bothered to read it all :), fat girl wins miss england was enough to turn my brain off first time ><
 

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pft how many people actually bothered to read it all :)

i skimmed the pics while i tickled my bits

its not about is she hot. its about the dangers of accepting that overweight is suddenly healthy because were trying to be nice. in general its being more accepted.

that is - overweight without a medical problem to cause it. which were just assuming she hasnt got because its less common than simply lazyness and/or overeating. i reckon anyway.
 

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ew, replying to messages with post-wank hands is almost as bad as wanking while on the phone to your mates!
 

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ew, replying to messages with post-wank hands is almost as bad as wanking while on the phone to your mates!

i did that once, but he also got on video phone to me while he was having a shit. and showed me a couple things. call it even.
 

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ew, replying to messages with post-wank hands is almost as bad as wanking while on the phone to your mates!

Is that bad?

What happens if your mate phones while your mid stroke?

If you've started to dribble, are you allowed to continue cleaning up or should you wait until you've finished the phone call then try to rescue the carpet?
 

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lol look who she beat

Finalists 2008

Tbh this is probably just all a publicity stunt, if she lost they would have been accused of discrimiating against fat people
 

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lol look who she beat

Finalists 2008

Tbh this is probably just all a publicity stunt, if she lost they would have been accused of discrimiating against fat people

Did she beat them? Or are those just the girls who will be beating her in the next round of the competition?
 

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punch some numbers chronic if you please.

find out which ones are classed as a healthy weight out of them lot. then we can compare whats going on. if it is a publicity thing, surely it would be better to pick someone whos a healthy weight and still attractive (in general, shall we say).
 

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punch some numbers chronic if you please.

find out which ones are classed as a healthy weight out of them lot. then we can compare whats going on. if it is a publicity thing, surely it would be better to pick someone whos a healthy weight and still attractive (in general, shall we say).

Don't start with this 'general' bullshit again :<
 

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How overweight/unfit you are is not based on your size it is based on your BMI, which i doubt you bothered to look up but never mind.

Digging around she is 12st 8lb, 5ft 10in t
Source: First ever size 16 girl reaches Miss England final | Mail Online

Based on the BMI calculator on the NHS website
Source: Body Mass Index (BMI) Calculator - NHS Direct


So she is indeed overweight

tris wins (and owes me a rep for the effort :D)

We're not discussing whether shes overweight lol...

P.S - I'm going by what the article says - and it says shes of average weight :)
 

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P.S - I'm going by what the article says - and it says shes of average weight :)

when is a reporters opinion stronger than an expert medical opinion?

i cant see a reference source for that claim.

big mistakes taking the opinion of a none expert over an expert, thats gonna cause you problems.
 

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I think you are being misled by what I'm saying.

I am simply reporting on the article is saying so using BMI to prove me wrong won't work - maybe you should try telling that to the article-writer.
 

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I think you are being misled by what I'm saying.

I am simply reporting on the article is saying so using BMI to prove me wrong won't work - maybe you should try telling that to the article-writer.

youre forming your opinion on someone who doesnt have the experience to make an informed opinion in the first place. when an experts opinion is much stronger. the reporters opinion is inferior. so it cant be said, less factually correct.

chronic uses expert medical opinion to make his, so who is right on facts? reporter or nhs?
 

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If BMI states shes overweight - shes overweight.

I don't necessairily know what you've proven to me by digging up the BMI and quoting it, but well done for it :)
 

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You know fuck all about the lass apart from shes in the competition for Miss. England.

you were making an assumption here to form your opinion about her overweightness.

you said i shouldnt make assumptions, but youre doing just that.
 

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A fatty is a fatty. Do you think Beth Ditto is hot? when she gets on stage it makes me feel ill. Nothing against a little padding here and there but obese women just don't do it for me.
 

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Haha - this is getting stupid now Tris.

So I'm wrong for assuming that you know nothing about her? Yet you are assuming that she 'shows what Britan is turning into in terms of being sympathetic to fat people because ... etc. with the help of her BMI?

I say we both call it a day - I have (and I assume you too) have far more better things to do than discuss some poor lasses' reasons for being (according to the BMI) overweight.
 

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Haha - this is getting stupid now Tris.

So I'm wrong for assuming that you know nothing about her? Yet you are assuming that she 'shows what Britan is turning into in terms of being sympathetic to fat people because ... etc. with the help of her BMI?

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so are you saying to me you believe its more likely people suffer genetic illnesses to predispose them to being overweight

than

it being more likely that people are simply eating more and doing less?

just to clarify.
 

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