Minstrel Perform in St runs

[Fsantos]

I dint buy leafwalkers account, you can ask any drakan templar member, well i just fell we losing the solo ability, the RR6s++ ones have some change agains most of the charaters, in the other day wend duoing with a inf rr2, we jumped on a RM and a warlock, i started with mezz on the warlock, he resisted, i insta stun the RM at the same time i was mezzing, inf killed the RM, warlock insta killed the the inf, i casted mezz again on warlock and he resisted again, and after some fight he resisted my isnta stun again :\ nerf how can i fight like this? i have 50 instruments + 16 from template and rr, someting apened to me in the same day a NS resist the 2 DDs in a row at the same time... i just fell someting its not right, if ppl resist alot my instruments abilities that about the low rr mincers?


I am ML10, My RAs are atm:

IP2
Purge 3
1 point to Ra that gives crit with DDs(duno thats its name)
Aug Str 2

i think in this days purge 3 must, its allways up to purge the damn poisons and debuffs, mezzes or stuns, everyone in the current days allways have someting in this sleaves

But still we need to be high RR to have "change"... purge 3 in a rr6 hurts alot on my choise of RAs.

 

[Void959]

WP is totally over rated, you crit occasionally, whoopie doo. MoM?...lol.

Agreed, no idea why so many minstrels think this is a good thing. The reasoning some give is that it gives you a chance to crit up from no chance to crit. Yes, you'll now have a 3% chance to crit for an average of 30% (in RvR) of your damage, thats a 0.9% increase in damage... MoM1 gives 2% flat.

 

[Lomme]

the class is fine, really

 

[Gamah]

Im specced 50 inst 39 slash 18 stealth, get the good WS as well as good dd damage.

I have wild power and MOM 3 and well as aug charisma 3, I do decent damage still with dd's. With wild power 3 you crit 1/8 DD's on average..its well worth it. It's also worth speccing hard into dd's vs assasins, they cant debuff your charisma (cept with malice ofc) so your always hitting for full value

 

[Zagg]

Mincer are one of the best 1vs.1 classes Alb has.

My mincer is RR6 and Sojourner... and I can beat every class in this game 1vs.1 without warguard. Most troubles I have with Warlocks, Vampiirs, Blademasters and Zerkers. But even those are doable... Stealthers really aren't the biggest problem unless they come in a bunch...

Ofc Mincers aren't uber either and you can also loose pretty much to every class in the game, if your enemy plays well and the luck isn't on your side...

Anyways... the class don't need a fix.

 

[Eeben]

Mincer are one of the best 1vs.1 classes Alb has.

My mincer is RR6 and Sojourner... and I can beat every class in this game 1vs.1 without warguard. Most troubles I have with Warlocks, Vampiirs, Blademasters and Zerkers. But even those are doable... Stealthers really aren't the biggest problem unless they come in a bunch...

Ofc Mincers aren't uber either and you can also loose pretty much to every class in the game, if your enemy plays well and the luck isn't on your side...

Anyways... the class don't need a fix.

 

[Fsantos]

Malice only debuffs 25% of the buffed values, so even malice will not debuff your charisma, unless you found a way to buff charisma up...

About the kill every class whithout using Warguard, well if you use Zw in every Fight i belive you, but you will die to all the tanks = your RR or -2 or 3 rr when you... they will just spam stiles at your face and do /LOL

:touch:

 

[Kinetix]

WP is totally over rated, you crit occasionally, whoopie doo. MoM?...lol.

MoF2 and then get aug acuity to at least level 2.

Im specced 50 inst 39 slash 18 stealth, get the good WS as well as good dd damage.

I have wild power and MOM 3 and well as aug charisma 3, I do decent damage still with dd's. With wild power 3 you crit 1/8 DD's on average..its well worth it. It's also worth speccing hard into dd's vs assasins, they cant debuff your charisma (cept with malice ofc) so your always hitting for full value

like i was saying mate i would rather WP the MoPain... i´m not a cocky "i know all about mincers" but usually i dont talk about things i dont know.
And it seems im not the only one

 

[Kinetix]

Malice only debuffs 25% of the buffed values, so even malice will not debuff your charisma, unless you found a way to buff charisma up...

About the kill every class whithout using Warguard, well if you use Zw in every Fight i belive you, but you will die to all the tanks = your RR or -2 or 3 rr when you... they will just spam stiles at your face and do /LOL

:touch:

Debuffs 25% of all stats ....hmm vos says buffed stats but i´ve had my stats debuffed sometimes even with no buffs except empaty for alb i think

 

[Eeben]

Debuffs 25% of all stats ....hmm vos says buffed stats but i´ve had my stats debuffed sometimes even with no buffs except empaty for alb i think

im pretty sure it debuffs charisma to

 

[Fsantos]

Debuffs 25% of all stats ....hmm vos says buffed stats but i´ve had my stats debuffed sometimes even with no buffs except empaty for alb i think

Strange... i will test it with a friend of mine to see how it works today wend i get home, golden scrab vest or band of start have a -45 to all stats( proc / use)...

About having 3 to Aug char, MOM and AP, you need to be rr4 just to have this Ras, you need to be rr8 or someting to have it and have the crucial solo RAs ( IP, purge)

 

[Void959]

like i was saying mate i would rather WP the MoPain... i´m not a cocky "i know all about mincers" but usually i dont talk about things i dont know.
And it seems im not the only one

MoM is a far better invesment per point than WP for minstrel just like anyone, what gamah says about critting 1/8th the time with WP3 is true - more in fact since its 17%. BUT in RvR the average crit is 1/3 your DD damage (think it might be 30% but i'll choose the higher value for the sake of argument), so you get an effective 5.7% increase in DPS. With MoM3 you'd get 7%.

 

[Eeben]

MoM is a far better invesment per point than WP for minstrel just like anyone, what gamah says about critting 1/8th the time with WP3 is true - more in fact since its 17%. BUT in RvR the average crit is 1/3 your DD damage (think it might be 30% but i'll choose the higher value for the sake of argument), so you get an effective 5.7% increase in DPS. With MoM3 you'd get 7%.

aug charisma gives more dd damage then mom

 

[Fsantos]

aug charisma gives more dd damage then mom

Hmm lets see, Aug char 3 give 22 char i think, 22 char= 11 damage incrise
MOM 3 give 7% spell damage if i am not mistaken, base best dd is 125 damage, more 192 charisma(base char+75 from itens)/2 = 96 ,

MOM 3 125+96 = 221 + 7% = 237

aug char 3 = 11 +221 = 232

Aug char 3 = 11 more damage
MOM 3 = 16 +/- damage (rounded)

10 points in a RA to inscrise 10 damage every 15 secs? if not resisted or its damage High reduced becose of High resists rates in they days( in the future it will be worst)

237-36%(caped resist with CL) = 152 damage ...
You can give tops 300 DDs damage in every 15 secs.

if i melle in every 2 secs, lets see 200 damage for calcs, 15 sec /2 secs( melle speed) 7,5 attakes in 15 secs, 200*7,5= 1500 damage, so even if you spec most of your ras to get bether dd damage , 80% of you damage comes from melle and 20% from DDs.

 

[SoulFly]

Malice only debuffs 25% of the buffed values, so even malice will not debuff your charisma, unless you found a way to buff charisma up...

About the kill every class whithout using Warguard, well if you use Zw in every Fight i belive you, but you will die to all the tanks = your RR or -2 or 3 rr when you... they will just spam stiles at your face and do /LOL

:touch:

Malice debuffs all you have on your, empathy, piety, all that, atleast on my paladin it does

 

[Fsantos]

Malice debuffs all you have on your, empathy, piety, all that, atleast on my paladin it does

I will make some test today to get some % on debuff on unbufed targets, i never noticed that before...:touch:

 

[Fsantos]

Damn, i tested it today, and it realy debuffs all your status 25%, bufed or unbufed the value is 25%, its is a big nerf to the minstrel DDs , as we cant seen to buff charisma and its possible to be debuffed... its malice debuff in you, you will lose +/- 20 damage per DD ...