Mincer stun vs Charge..

[mikke]

ok, when i am fighting tanks on my mincer and i try to stun em (after theyve charged, but i dont notice..) i can press stun 100 times with no cooldown, and it still uses power, and they dont get effected by it..

whats up with that? it has to be a bug right?

 

[Corran]

ok, when i am fighting tanks on my mincer and i try to stun em (after theyve charged, but i dont notice..) i can press stun 100 times with no cooldown, and it still uses power, and they dont get effected by it..

whats up with that? it has to be a bug right?

Nope, you should just stop spamming a spell if you dont like it.

It gives insta back without recharge if there a form of feedback, be it charge or a CB feedback etc. Same on skald insta mezz etc etc .

 

[mikke]

huh? i loose power when i spam stun vs a charged enemy.. and thats a bug..

 

[Bloodcore]

dont stun ppl with det.!

Edit: slam em - infact, reroll

 

[Maeloch]

Hrmmm, if I was you I wouldn't complain u get to burn thru CB feedback or spam on chargers without using ur insta up. Main reason I got CB was for mincers then found it does shit vs them.

 

[mikke]

Hrmmm, if I was you I wouldn't complain u get to burn thru CB feedback or spam on chargers without using ur insta up. Main reason I got CB was for mincers then found it does shit vs them.

The point is: when i use it vs charge, it uses power, and nothing happens.. and that sux

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

Same happens with a necros power tap if he can't see his target. The lesson here is, don't spam!

 

[psyco]

Same happens with a necros power tap if he can't see his target. The lesson here is, don't spam!

or any thing a necro does...

 

[Sharaft]

slam em

In charge ur immune to slam stun aswell..


report the it if you feel it is a bug.

 

[Turran]

Your still casting a spell and its resisted...

 

[toxii]

its not resisted ,says target moving too fast to be affected by your spell or something blah blah, its a game mechanism not a bug

 

[Sharaft]

Same happens with a necros power tap if he can't see his target. The lesson here is, don't spam!

the reason why you drain ur mana when you cast powertap is becaus its actually first instacasted by the shade, then transfers to a timed cast on the servant

 

[Chronictank]

you still cast the spell, but they are immune
the only thing you can really call a "bug", (even tho its not, mythic decided to be kind) is that the stun timer is'nt reset and you can spam it

 

[Vodkafairy]

The point is: when i use it vs charge, it uses power, and nothing happens.. and that sux

lol?

it's all in your favour, how can you not realise it? normally you cast it once, nothing happens, you lose power, and timer resets back to 10 or 15 secs, whatever it is.

but because it's bugged the timer doesn't reset and you can use it the moment their charge is over. maybe time to stop holding the button down til you're oop

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

the reason why you drain ur mana when you cast powertap is becaus its actually first instacasted by the shade, then transfers to a timed cast on the servant

I know Just seems a little daft you using power on a spell that doesn't do anything. Just like mikke is saying about his stun, it should really be as if he's used it and has to wait 10 (?) seconds to use it again

 

[Sharaft]

I know Just seems a little daft you using power on a spell that doesn't do anything. Just like mikke is saying about his stun, it should really be as if he's used it and has to wait 10 (?) seconds to use it again

so.. maybe the real bug bhind this is that you cast and since he is in chargemode it resists and drains power on a 0 sec recast? hmmm.. interesting

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

so.. maybe the real bug bhind this is that you cast and since he is in chargemode it resists and drains power on a 0 sec recast? hmmm.. interesting

Well yeah, thats what mikke was trying to say Except it doesn't resist you get the message "your target is in a battle charge and cannot be stunned" or similar

 

[Sharaft]

Well yeah, thats what mikke was trying to say Except it doesn't resist you get the message "your target is in a battle charge and cannot be stunned" or similar

no its "the target is moving to fast to be affected by your spell" or sumfin like that, the real bug about this is that you spend mana on casting it, it should be like it is when ur PS'ed, theurgs and animists get the message that the target is phase shifted and is immune to damage etc dont really know what it is.. instead of actually casting the spell and spend power (and mincer stun use ALOOOOT of power! NERF )

 

[Corran]

huh? i loose power when i spam stun vs a charged enemy.. and thats a bug..

it isnt a bug, you are casting a spell = takes power.. just because you spam it constantly aint anyones fault but your own if you end up wasting power.


Cast it, oh look charge... i wont spam it and wait 15seconds

Oh look, i got plenty of power still because i werent playing like a n00b


If you cast spell, resisted or not = power because you done the action. Just like a nuke, hell just like endurance in melee.. you swoosh the attack you still use end etc

 

[Sharaft]

it isnt a bug, you are casting a spell = takes power.. just because you spam it constantly aint anyones fault but your own if you end up wasting power.


Cast it, oh look charge... i wont spam it and wait 15seconds

Oh look, i got plenty of power still because i werent playing like a n00b


If you cast spell, resisted or not = power because you done the action. Just like a nuke, hell just like endurance in melee.. you swoosh the attack you still use end etc

i never spammed it as i actually never attack tanks when i run in 8v8, and i barely never solo as im to low RR, i harrass healers and supporters

 

[Vodkafairy]

it's completely beyond me how people can cry about a bug which works in their favour

and the 'target is moving too fast to be stunned' = sos / eld rr5
'the target is in a battle charge' = charge

 

[Sharaft]

'the target is in a battle charge' = charge

doesnt matter really what it says, it resists the stun anyway

its absolutley not in our favours when 1 stun cost (well for me) 9% power and then you spam it to get it in and you atthe end you got 20% power left caus you wouldnt study the status bar..

 

[Corran]

doesnt matter really what it says, it resists the stun anyway

its absolutley not in our favours when 1 stun cost (well for me) 9% power and then you spam it to get it in and you atthe end you got 20% power left caus you wouldnt study the status bar..

So tell me, if you see he is battle charged why do you spam it?

Infact you dont even have to read the action log. Merely the fact you cast and it comes back, you cast instantly again and it comes back = wait 15seconds (or 10) and recast. Though casting stun on any target that has charge is stupid as they will just tendrils you down if you try to run etc.

If you spam it, then you are just playing badly to be honest. It would be like me saying "Why does my power going down when trying to spam pets on a phase shifted targeted? No pet is created but i use power" or "why do i use power when nuke was resisted, i nuked and it done nothing" etc etc

 

[Golena]

Spamming heals on a fully healed target also uses power without doing anything.
The fact you get the spell back instantly is better than you could ever hope for, stop whining.. if your playing that badly you were going to lose even if you had power left.

 

[mikke]

lol?

it's all in your favour, how can you not realise it? normally you cast it once, nothing happens, you lose power, and timer resets back to 10 or 15 secs, whatever it is.

but because it's bugged the timer doesn't reset and you can use it the moment their charge is over. maybe time to stop holding the button down til you're oop

Im a nub ok? and its annoying;p

 

[mikke]

Spamming heals on a fully healed target also uses power without doing anything.
The fact you get the spell back instantly is better than you could ever hope for, stop whining.. if your playing that badly you were going to lose even if you had power left.

but using instas on a fully healed group doesent cost mana or "use" up the spell..

 

[Vodkafairy]

but using instas on a fully healed group doesent cost mana or "use" up the spell..

nor does stunning use up stun recast timer. besides, it works vs cb stun feedback aswell, and most likely vs resists too (atleast champ snare doesn't get timer reset when its resisted)

 

[Asha]

but using instas on a fully healed group doesent cost mana or "use" up the spell..

insta heals don't use power

 

[Sharaft]

So tell me, if you see he is battle charged why do you spam it?

Infact you dont even have to read the action log. Merely the fact you cast and it comes back, you cast instantly again and it comes back = wait 15seconds (or 10) and recast. Though casting stun on any target that has charge is stupid as they will just tendrils you down if you try to run etc.

If you spam it, then you are just playing badly to be honest. It would be like me saying "Why does my power going down when trying to spam pets on a phase shifted targeted? No pet is created but i use power" or "why do i use power when nuke was resisted, i nuked and it done nothing" etc etc

i said i DONT spam the stun! when it resist i change target or try to mezz

 

[Andrilyn]

Then why whine if you don't spam it?
Seriously insta stunning tanks with charge (like Corran already said) is such a very bad thing to do as the only tank with charge that's not BL is a Valk and you give them free tendril spam.
If you are in a group situation and you need to get such a tank off your support use CL disease and tell them to kite or something, never ever stun them as that will mean your support will face tendril spam the next minute and being unable to do anything.