midguard zerggin in odins

[censi]

chaps,

if your gonna roam in 4-5 fg take it to emain pls.... the great thing about odins was that up untill about a week ago it was a place where the non zerggers could go and fight.... there is good stealther battles and good fg V fg their.... and the dying element of those in daoc that wished to have some battles that envolved skill rather than numbers went there.

U all know what emain has become cuz of zergging and the damage it has done to the game. Odins is or was a sanctuary to that..

Cant remeber all the names but peeps like
ardmedel, ylen, lothlore, pandemic, ottle and some green clad guild were their...

its for the good of the game if you keep to FG rvr only in odin...

anyway there is no malice in this post just hope that u can understand where im coming from, but u cant deny that the amount of people from middy that have been camping amg in odins for the last few nights is getting ridiculous....

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Hi team

 

[old.Odysseus]

I second this post.

We went to odins - bam zerged by 4 fg mids
Went back - bam they were camping amg
Went back with 2FG from HB - killed the 4-5FG (yes 3 fg vs 4-5 FG)
Started roaming as 3 seperate FG's
BAM killed by 4-5FG mids

Its really much more fun getting wiped by a single FG VGN than 4-5FG random mids.

 

[old.Rei Ayanami]

Maybe if albs and hibs came with 1FG at the time we would too

Just a thought...

 

[kameh]

Albs and Hibs dont deny it, you turn up on a vast majority of occasions in 2FG + minimum.

 

[censi]

aye lets not turn it into a flame...

just from my guild perspective hibs were porting in to odins as about 4-5 fg of hibs but all these peeps wanted to hunt with their grps and not zerg, but midguard were just roaming odins and camping amg as 4-5 fg ....

I just wanted to try and keep odins a zerg free zone, lets not get another flame thread going, but those middies that were doing it tonight... please think about your actions (especially after 4-5 hours of camping)

 

[Banishing]

albs and hibs are to dirty to be in my realm
thats why we kick em out
end of story

 

[domin8or]

censi,

stop this fucking whining! We Mids can do whatever the hell we want to do. What about Albs zerging? There is probably one in a billion chance u meet a solo alb. Maybe it's cause Alb is a gimped realm? haha.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by domin8or
censi,

stop this fucking whining! We Mids can do whatever the hell we want to do. What about Albs zerging? There is probably one in a billion chance u meet a solo alb. Maybe it's cause Alb is a gimped realm? haha.

ehm, if you read her post, youll see that shes not whining. and she said 2 times not to turn this into a flame thread, which you so brilliantly did, grats i guess

 

[Pandemic]

uh not quite sure why my name was mentioned as i was soloing almost all of it was never in a grp just ask alpha - he killed me in what was a fairly long solo fight.

and also polmataka however u say it who i solo killed.

i rushed in with a grp at one point simply to kill time as i was waiting for cash to craft some more

 

[mirak_naijmi]

I really must say mids are pretty good at just matching the demand in odins. Thou last week has been alot more of stealth zergs and zergs in general.

 

[Pandemic]

oh wait u was that luri stealther who kept on laughing and blowing kisses at me but then got urself killed i went after u for a while bymyself but u refused to paly everyone else had gone by then we could have had a nice solo match if you didnt keep on hiding then trying to shoot arrows at me that i block

ah well better luck next time

 

[optical-]

lol hibs and albs telling mids not to zerg odins?
Albs zerg emain constant, and when hibs zerg emain they say its to keep invaders out of there frontier. So basically hibs/albs cant tell mids in odins what to do.
Zerging odins doesnt destroy rvr, albs zerging emain destroys rvr cause emain is supposed to be where group battles happen.

 

[lightningbolt]

we started the evening with 2.5 fg and it went well then 7 ok atleast 6 fg of albs wiped us out and was heading to DG so we started to collect middies and went to wipe out all albs and we succed to

but every time we fought albs or hibs they where atleast 3 fg grps of em and we 3-4 grps....

so dont whine on ardamel or the others who collects rp for mid in a most excellent way, try to beat us with 2 fg instead of 7

 

[Ulme]

OMG!

first o all, albs/hibs/mids all are as bad when it comes to zerging

but sure, let's make an agreement.... YOUR realm do NOT attack our keeps/relics and we will let you pass amg/hmg ...

..because that is why we sometimes camp amg/hmg, to defend our keeps/relics, to prevent you from taking our keeps/relics

and aslong as bledmeer is under attack 2-3 times each day we WILL defend our lands

 

[Bure Ygg]

Why shell we not protect our realm?? Odin's Gate is Midgards realm thats why we are there to protect our realm this is still Realm v Realm

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by old.Odysseus
I second this post.

We went to odins - bam zerged by 4 fg mids
Went back - bam they were camping amg
Went back with 2FG from HB - killed the 4-5FG (yes 3 fg vs 4-5 FG)
Started roaming as 3 seperate FG's
BAM killed by 4-5FG mids

Its really much more fun getting wiped by a single FG VGN than 4-5FG random mids.

Well I think that night (21.00-24.00) started out with 2FG FoM then then after getting killed by 4FG albs at HMG, we called for help an got arround 3-4FG smacked albs in DG. They where lacking mages and got crushed easy.

Then we run into Strife with 2.5FG at X, and you where at least 2FG we get smached cuz of bad play. We return with the same 2.5FG on lower side of road and kill Strife's 2FG. We then had an amazing battle with albs about 4FG mids vs 5FG Albs at HMG, we bump into Strife on Hill, and kill you....thats when I log after getting spanked.

I felt a bit sad for the hibs, but we only brougth 3-4FG, cuz albs got the same.

Anyway, I think hunting in 2-4FG in Odins is no problem as long as you don't camp. Often you will see 1-3FG mids at both HMG and AMG, but they are not teaming up unless albs/hibs come in 4-5FG. IMHO I like the 1.5-2FG best, easier to keep controll, but this nigth albs where more active, thus mids came in lager numbers.

 

[Armalite]

Anti-zerging is really only for rp whores, i dont really care what my rr is. I don't want to see invaders in Midgard frontier, and the easiest way to do this is to block the milegates, and the bigger the kork, the more difficult it is for invaders to enter. And a zerg doesn't really start out as one, it's a reaction to large enemy forces. If we get; A guard has been killed.... with 26 enemies in the area, ofcourse we summon as many mids possible to wipe them out.

 

[shilak]

Censi, dont try to blame the zerging in Odins on middies, all sides are to blame. Take Sunday night, CE guild group killed 3 separate hibbie groups and then found those same groups zerging about odins as 3-4fg. Wouldnt of minded so much if they had stopped doing this after the first time but they didnt. In the end all three sides had zergs running about and no more FG vs FG for that night. I also distinctly remember a FG of your guild being part of that hibbie zerg.

Once one side starts zerging all the others do.

 

[Xandax]

I'm pretty sure miguard doesn't zerg. In fact I've yet to see a guard named mid.

*Midgard* might zerg Odin's - but what do you expect them to, when we see 2-4+ FGish enemies come running over our 1FGs

Hibs still stand for some of the most "pointless" zerging in Odin's I've yet to see. Saw(and others scouted them also) over 5FG not so long ago camping amg and running uproad and back to hmg (to pick up more) and back again to amg killing of the 2-5 albs and rare group of mids. comming there (Mids didn't even bother going there with this zerg around).

Our guild groups tries to run in FG-2FG athomosphere and prefere to talk down FG-2FGish, but after you get wiped by a massive supirior force (talking about numbers) people get tried of handing out free RP.

We will try to kick invaders out of our realm, that is what Realm warefare includes. If the invaders show up with a large force it takes a large force to throw them out.

 

[Urme the Legend]

Well I would say we got the right to protect our own frontier! right? ...

And that "green clad guild" is Fellowship of Midgard, and our plans are to keep Odin's Gate free from albs and hibs as much as we can.

And why move our 2fg to emain?? .. wtf are we going to do in emain?

But btw we moved the Mid forces to emain last night and took DC

 

[stunned]

On an average day I die maybe 10 times, 8 of those are to alb zerg, 1 to hibs and 1 to alb even forces.

I even stopped bothering about it. Albs have alot more players then Mid. Mid have somewhat more then hibs.

When it comes to groupeffectivness Hib > Mid > Alb. Main reason is Mythic and their class implementation.

Though I personally think Alb could do alot better if they just managed to try and play instead of /stick up in the megha zergs. It hurts your skills when battleing even forces.

Nothing is better then to beat a superior force. You learn how to play and have to try some skills. Thats is prbably why Hibs do so well, not only is it due to "overpowered" classes.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by Ulme
OMG!

first o all, albs/hibs/mids all are as bad when it comes to zerging

but sure, let's make an agreement.... YOUR realm do NOT attack our keeps/relics and we will let you pass amg/hmg ...

..because that is why we sometimes camp amg/hmg, to defend our keeps/relics, to prevent you from taking our keeps/relics

and aslong as bledmeer is under attack 2-3 times each day we WILL defend our lands

and that was all that needed to be said.

 

[herjulf]

odins is OUR frontier u have nothing there to do, GO AWAY!

this is all that i need to say, we protect our realm as we see fit.

 

[Ulme]

Originally posted by Arnor2



and that was all that needed to be said.

Cheers Arnor

 

[feinar]

Just wondering, who said thats Odin's is the training camp for albs\hibz? Its a part of our frontiers with keeps e. t. c. and u know it, cause try to take them. Another words its a gate to our lands. I think most of albs\hibs ganking DG for example. Minimum 1 fg + some stealthers. Where from they come? Odin's. OK, we try patrol odins with 1 fg. 2fg of enemy comes and crush them. Mids bring another one fg (2 fg now) and crush those 2 fg of enemys. Next time enemys port to odins with 3 fg and crush 2 mids fg. Mids bring one more fg - it how zerg starting. And dont forget, u r 2 rind of enemies in the odins - albs and hibs. If u have 2 fg of albs and 2 fg of hibs at the same time, how many fg's of mids we need to withraw them from our lands? By summing all this words, i agree with Ulme: if u wanna good fights without zerging, plz stay back from our keeps\relics - we just defenders, cause its not fun for us too actually to beat 1 highlander with 2 fg of mids.

 

[Kallio]

Well... The "Mid zerg" that´s found time to time at odin´s is most of the time the Bledmeer defence force that after defending the keep stay at Odin´s to RvR a bit, this causes the zerging. So... We have one option, Don´t try to take our precious bledmeer!

Most of the time when someone reports in /as that bledmeer is under attack at least FoM has a fg on the way

No I´m not a member of FoM but of their alliance. a hint btw...

No point trying to take bled with 2fg, you won´t make it

(And maybe this post sholdn´t taken too seriously

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

This thread comes from someone from the land of the zerg? LOL

Heres what seems to happen:

1fg Mids in Odins meets 1fg Albs
1fg Mids kill albs
Albs port back again with 1fg + 1fg stealthers
Albs kill mids
Hibs come at last moment while the victor is weak, and gank them
Mids return, with backup
Albs return, with backup
Albs and mids kill hibs
Hibs return, with backup
1 large zerg formed. Repeat as necessary.

As said, if you dont want to be killed, stay home.

 

[old.Odysseus]

Originally posted by Runolaz

Then we run into Strife with 2.5FG at X, and you where at least 2FG we get smached cuz of bad play. We return with the same 2.5FG on lower side of road and kill Strife's 2FG.

Ask anyone in Strife. Last night, Feb 18., we never once has more than 1FG going.
Never.

And for the record:
Strife moves in 1FG whenever possible.
On rare occasions do we field 2FG in the same area (but not last night, maximum online number was 13).

However, it is perfectly acceptable to gather a large force to smack another large force, no issues there.
The problem arises when said large force stays together in the same area (i.e. camping AMG), as this forces the opponent to gather a matching force and then you have zerg warfare.

That was excactly what happened last night from my perspective;
we were happily strolling around in 1FG and get smacked twice in a row by odds 4-1. Same thing happens to HB. This forces us to either relocate or gather a strong force.

Result: Zerg.

It is your option (and that of hibs and albs too for that matter);
Do you want odins to be as zerged as emain?
If not, stop camping the gates, split up when the use of a large force has passed.

 

[chosen]

Let us zerg.......
its our frontier and we are protecting it.