Midgard needs an RvR guild

[anonym_mid]

I think its about time an rvr guild was started for midgard excal.
Currently its just random groups in emain who dont know how to work together.
A new guild needs to be started with skilled players who will know how to work together and can always field a fg in emain.
This guild will be devoted to rvr only. (The main goal will be to rule emain)
The guild should be created with 3 gms, who will chose which lvl 50 rr6 and above players they think should join.
The idea will be to start with 8 or more experianced players who can do df raids get money for sc etc. (only once we have enough people and the right classes will we start doing rvr groups)
Those selected as being fit for the guild will be told we are interested and it will be up to them whether they would like to join.
I'd really like the guild to have supp sms and lots of healers, pb+aoe stun imo has never really been used to its full potential on mid excal. Preferably if this did get started it would be great to always have in a group at anytime
2 supp sms (pb)
1 healer(cc)
shaman (end regen, heals, buffs etc)
skald ( speed and protecting healer/caster with mez)
runie ( at times when it might be hard for sms to get position for pb you can steal have runie dealing out heavy damage and running pbt)
zerker (to deal with casters real quick)
Warrior (for protecting casters/healers)
Maybe replace 1 of the sms for tank or another runie, not sure)
Before setting out each person will be allocated with a different task, e.g. skald and zerkers go for casters until all cloth wearers are dead then begin taking out tanks/healers.
Eventually everones roll will sink in and they will automatically know what to do in all situations.
I know CE was started from scratch and done ok but that isnt the type of guild i'd like this to be. CE involved taking keeps etc most of the time. This guild will be full time RvR and DF/SI raids.
This is only the basics, id like to know what people think.
Remember, we want a guild that is feared, and most importantly avoid the zerg and make a name for itself. Because as it is now ive seen alot of mid groups killed by equal number enemies, which shouldnt be happening. Especially when imo within the next few patches midgard groups will be stronger than hib ones and we have the best cc in the game by far already.
Only thinking about this, nothing will probably come of it but still..

 

[speshneeds]

goal to rule emain

Not to zerg


>confused<

 

[shilak]

OMFG NOOOOO!!!

Last thing midgard needs is a bunch of elitist morons running about claiming they are better than everyone else.

You also seem to of missed the entire point of the game, it is not a test of who can RP whore the most in emain. The ultimate aim is RvR action (that is Realm vs Realm), meaning that you should be aiming to take your realm to number 1, which means making plans to get all the relics on our turf, keeping our lands free from invaders, among other things.

As for getting a guild that is feared, that will never happen, people will learn your colours and react accordingly by adjusting their tactics. A far more noble aim would be to get a highly respected guild within the game, one respected for its abilities in RvR by the other realms and at the same time respected within its own realm for the strength it provides during realm defence/offence.

 

[AbPoon]

I thought the whole point of a guild was having a way to talk to your m8's and to have people to enjoy the game with, not doss round Emain and try to PWN, i'm in no doubt that this is either a piss take or has been posted by someone who's just bought an account.

 

[-mamba-]

Have to pretty much agree with the mid who seems to want to remain anonymous.. What i've been missing is a regular team where every1 would know his/her role etc (i still got a lot to learn though ) , sure there r usually NP grps in emain where i've been sometimes, good players and going well etc but grps often full and always a bit outsider feeling there

Its a shame many mid grps get owned vs equal numbers, especially vs hibs but imo almost always due to lack of CC .. often could've done way better with better target selection though.. and yeah i make a lot of mistakes there too

about being feared and rule emain .. seemed to rise already some funny comment about elitist morons i'd let actions speak instead of words, dont think i ever saw LA brag about how they r gonna own but can only say they kinda kick ass and hard

@ shilak: imo you're a bit overreacting .. remember ppl play for fun and what others find fun may not be fun for every1 else. personally i've wasted too many months already on this game, spent my fair share of hours in odins, taking keeps, "defending" keeps (as a tank lol, sucks), zerging in emain, sometimes invading alb lands as well.. as a zerker and a sb, also leveled them both myself to 50 (or 51 like some ppl prefer to call rr5+), believe me lair can be also decent place in a decent grp. nothing has yet been as enjoyable as good teamplay and as far as i understood thats what the original poster was after

besides, there are already good and respected guilds who are doing awesome job with defending our realm, taking keeps back and keeping an eye on enemy movements etc .. just to name a couple, Aesirs and WR for example, i respect them for that and i dont think i am the only. being the lazy and selfish bastard i am i just seem to be unable to be arsed to help with that though, i can well admit i fit better the emain ppl stereotype (give action right now, not after 10mins of camping)

and as the original poster said, what midgard needs is a guild who would be able to take most enemies when facing them with equal numbers (in emain or anywhere else), yes some may say elitist bastards but i'd rather call it a balanced team which works well together and where isnt room for your lvl39 hunter (no offense any1) right now even when there is 1 free spot in the grp. imo mid is better in keeping our lands clear and taking keeps atm than it is in emain (only NP stands really chance there), wouldn't we want to do well in all areas ?

 

[old.Darkomen]

I agree with some points and disagree some aswell.

But i am one of those TK sitters with my runie yelling LFG, and it is kinda ruining game for me...ok i got my gimpblade for soloin, but i dont enjoy it that much. So beein in guild that would actually have stedy RvR grps would be fun.

Well beeing king of emain could get pretty boring often tho, so why not visit odin's or sauvage? Odin's gate has been nice place for some time. But gotta agree, emain is the place where u dont have to actually look for action.

I don't see this kinda guild would be full of cocky fools yellin how good they are....or atleast that would GM's time to stand up. I see it as grp of ppl enjoyin RvR in well controlled grp, and enjoying winning more than losing and havin fun the way they like.

-Torch- lvl 50 runie
-Darkomen- lvl 50 shadowblade

 

[nju]

daoc seems to be full of them uber players who can't get enough of boosting their ego and advertising how uber they are / their guild is and how they own everyone else so there should be more than enough of people willing to join this kind of a uber rvr guild

imo the only proper rvr guild i know of was cutting edge - don't know if they play on exc anymore tho but they didn't seem to be too uber to be humane at the same time, meaning they seemed to have things to do in real life from time to time since i haven't seen too many posts of ce members claiming their ownage in rvr

i might be mistaken but this is the image i've gotten about cutting edge and it's members compared to oh, let's say nolby pride (chosen only because there's propably 2 / 5 of total daoc posts by them boasting), alltho i haven't the knowledge to judge nor praise other guilds on midgard excalibur

and before you uber elite players send a death squad after my norse bottom know that this was not meant as a flame, only a humble opinion of a non uber player

ps. what is the current status of cutting edge - is the guild still active on excalibur?

 

[old.Darkomen]

CE still exist i have been groupin with em at odins pretty often lately. Dunno if their numbers are lil less these days, but certainly not a dead guild .

-Torch- lvl 50 runie
-Darkomen- lvl 50 shadowblade

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

Emain = /yawn!

You might form your so called uber guild, but if your intension is just the regular emain zerg, firstly it will become remarkably dull and secondly for every time you get 1-2 fg together, the enemy will just get 3-4fg and level you!

As for RvR guilds, well if you have not met them, youve been in the wrong places. But even these guild dont dedicate their entire lives to RvR, they know variety will keep the game interesting. The following guilds IMO are the main ones I see organising RvR.

Cutting Edge
Nolby Pride
Black Company
Aesirs Blade
Fellowship of Midgard

Theres plenty more, but tbh, these are the most prominent, just take a look at the top RP earning guilds in Midgard, thats who to talk to.

One thing you seem to be missing, which I find rather annoying from a few Middies, is the golden rule, look after your own back yard first! Anyone can mindlessly go zerging in emain, it takes really little skill and becomes very dull.

 

[Norvindus]

Cutting Edge is still active on Excalibur at the moment with a bit less active players, but imo still having fun, and the fun element is what keep us going back to the game.

Thx to Aesirs Blade and their alliance members for letting us into their top notch alliance, the fun element has really gone up lately

 

[mele-nko]

Just for the fun of it, i would like to ask the original poster who he thinks would qualify for that first 8 man team. ^^

 

[Urme the Legend]

You rarely see Fellowship of Midgard having guildgroups in emain... Fellowship of Midgard prefer defending our own Frontiers and taking keeps in albion

IMO that is more fun and useful for the realm.. than owning emain couple of hours a day...

So please.. if this "elite" guild is beeing created, please help Midgard defending the realm and not only "own" emain.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Errr?

 

[anonym_mid]

It dont matter whos posting this, i just want to see peoples opinions and see who would be interested in starting a guild so they dont need to yell lfg all the time.
As for being leet, it wouldnt be like that(my original comments about "ruling emain" might have been a bit over the top), we would hopefully just be a bunch of people that worked well together liked a challenge and have fun and most importantly have a presence in emain alot of the time so members always have a group.
Agreed with mamba, mid is good at defending the realm,but needs a guild to compete in emain with the likes of LA and other groups running about.
Only problem is i wouldn't know the best way to get a guild up and running, that's another reason why i posted here, and wouldnt really even want to be a GM.
People might see this an opportunity to flame but theres nothing bad about wanting an rvr guild considering a large proportion of daoc is rvr.

 

[anonym_mid]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Errr?

The whole point of the guild will be to compete with the other rvr guilds because most of BC and NP seem inactive..

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Errr?

Aye if I got you correct the guild he is speaking of is NP...

NP is the pure RvR Emain-Powerguild why create another??...it would only be a copy!!

There are lots of other fine and active guilds to look for too. Not only the bigger guilds, but also smaller guilds like Pro Patria etc that have a good fundation in RvR.

IHMO the creating more guilds IS NOT what Midgard needs. What we need is a bunch of good and stabile guilds. I would rather see more ppl joining up, even merging of smaller guilds etc.

Rigth now I think Midgard is doing just fine. We have the AB-Alliance and the LFoM-Alliance that are responding in force. Now it looks like NP is back, thus bring more punch to the Mids that like to go to Emain.

 

[kameh]

I like the way the midgard guilds are currently. We've got a very strong defence with the AB and FOM alliances, NP kick up some dust in emain these days and we've got FOM and Ghost's of valhalla capping keeps in albland every few nights it seems

Odins to me is far more fun than emain ever was when I was playing hibernia. There are zergs on all sides occasionally but not nearly as often as in emain. It's where 1 person can really make a difference (be it winning or losing) I really dont think we need uber guilds in Midgard since we already have some GREAT ones working together.

P.S. there's far less bitching in mid between guilds than Hibernia.. fact.

 

[Hatt]

Ok this is crap.
WHat lvl are you anonym_mid? Have you ever been to emain or do you just check /realm /relic every 5min? Are you starting this guild or do you just want a guild that kills stuff in emain? wtf are you out after?
:bore:

 

[rhesusminus]

I think anonymid is leet. he shuld be the guildleader and show us how to do it!

 

[marach]

think the idea is good but the rr6 is a overaim.. the only problem could be that they would end up to much like NP and be realy, REALY selfish and arogant.. that sux.. if it was made the right way whit nice peeps it would be good

btw goal to rule emain whit 1fg??

 

[mele-nko]

As i already asked. Who would qualify for the first 8 ?

 

[Reverant Mezz]

just look at hib for the elitest's now, its full of them and its teared holes in the community there..

 

[AbPoon]

Aye it leads to guild poaching arguments etc etc etc

Nolby pride get alot of flack just due to the fact they get alot of rp's (Though tbh the apathy was mainly due to the old GM having his head up his own arse) and if you made a guild that was rr5+ only that you poached from other guilds then people will be pissed ^^, Guilds in my eyes are groups of friends that band together to have more fun basicly and to do bigger things then they could manage on their own and i find the idea of having a guild of only lvl 50 players never mind rr5+ only frankly silly.

The best thing in this game is seeing a player start off, helping them out and enjoying the game with them as they uncover all the cool stuff in it

Onwards with friend guilds and down with the l337 guilds i say

 

[nju]

Originally posted by AbPoon
The best thing in this game is seeing a player start off, helping them out and enjoying the game with them as they uncover all the cool stuff in it

Onwards with friend guilds and down with the l337 guilds i say

so true - elite people are plain simple rp whores

 

[exe]

Originally posted by dubiusdawn
so true - elite people are plain simple rp whores

Maybe they just prefer hardcore RvR to everything else in the game?;>

 

[nju]

yeah that might be the case and they (the elite players) sure let the other players know about their uber rvr skills

ofcourse this again only concerns those who do brag 24 / 7 - i still carry little hope in my heart that there are some players who play for the game and not the fame

 

[Ulme]

Own Emain ???

try this....
"/q"
then delete all your chars...
then make a new start on hibernia...

Emain is Hibs to defend not ours, let's try to defend the glorious lands of Midgard before you seek to conquer any of our enemies lands...

And this talking about Elite... What mid needs is NOT an "Elite Guild", mid needs to cooperate and join forces.

 

[nju]

for midgard! aye!

 

[old.anubis]

maybe they just dont want to /release every 10 minutes

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

Originally posted by old.anubis
maybe they just dont want to /release every 10 minutes

dont go there then