Midgard needs a swift kick in it's RvR-rear

[Tesla Monkor]

We need to wake up - at least the random groups need to. There is no fun in running around the frontier with 8 people in a group and getting trampled because the enemies are bright enough to run with larger groups.

For the average player (that would be me and most everyone else), we need an average zerg. If we do not LEARN to zerg (like, have two fgs of randoms leave the keep), RvR is going to stink even more for Midgard once we cluster.

Zerging is something we need to learn and get over this superiourity complex, because it'll turn around and bite us in the proverbial ass.

 

[Starwind]

100% agree with that Tesla.

There has not been a random BG in RvR for a long while.

Im always happy to join a random group with differnt classes and differnt guilds.

Maybe make a post of people who dont mind running in a random group/zerg, at least then we know who to invite.

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

agree.

wasnt it said that mids invented zerging, hibs took it up and albs perfected it?

we need to get it going again people!

 

[Brite]

dont whine at the people that dont want zerg warfare, they want fg vs fg because they find that fun, and zerging no fun, but any of these groups will be willing to work with any mid zerg to kill an enemy zerg, but there never is an RvR BG setup, if you want to zerg, set up a BG and get people who want that type of rvr.....

you have totaly missed what the problem actually is

 

[Anarch]

Brite just told me ingame he will start a BG 18:00 cet evry day for zerg warfare xD

 

[Lothoras]

Yeah I also agree, but people may want to solo or run in a group instead of a zerg cus they think: "nah the more ppl the less arpees..." and that won't help much. If we learn to cooperate and play as a zerg, things will go better. Daoc are made for zergs, not for ppl running around like monkeys. But the bigger zerg the better comp u need.. A problem i have... Still, i agree, and hope we can zerg more!

 

[Melachi]

Have to agree with Brite here, your obviously looking to the wrong people if you keep encountering this superiority complex.

Theres plenty of people who want to zerg, ask around, but dont be anoyed with the people who want to RvR solo/duo/FG because thats being elitest aswell.

Yeah I also agree, but people may want to solo or run in a group instead of a zerg cus they think: "nah the more ppl the less arpees..." and that won't help much. If we learn to cooperate and play as a zerg, things will go better. Daoc are made for zergs, not for ppl running around like monkeys. But the bigger zerg the better comp u need.. A problem i have... Still, i agree, and hope we can zerg more!

for example the above, Im currently getting kitted out and im gonna duo with a mate, but im not duo'ing because it gives more rps, ive never ever given a toss about rp's and I was even in a gank group style guild (maelstrom) for a long time ago, its because I enjoy 8v8 or duoing or solo. I have no problem with zergs, if i dont want to be trampled/join one ill go somewhere else, but dont make me out to be some elitest prick who all he gives a damn about is a figure on the internet cause thats waffle

 

[charmangle]

Cant agree with ya more Tesla...

You are very right...we actually do need some sort of gathering point for random mids.

Atm its impossible to get a random group going within 1-2 hours of looking and often loosing more people than you are gaining in that time!:/

A simple solution would ofc be for somone hrm hrm hrm...who I wonder!...who rvr alot to start a main rvr BG every time they enter the game...so that people know where info about rvr / groups can be found. And for people gracious enough to close duplicate bgs and join the main bg when they notice there are 2! (not alliance/guild/group bgs ofc!

Maybe someone feel up to it ? (Remember that Starbow, Gustav and a couple of others used to have the rvr bg up till a couple of months ago?)

/Charmangle

 

[brad]

Well i totally agree with the posts.

I run solo get zerged by 4 fg hibs and 4 albs at same time, BUT Testudo can be fun.

Even when i get a decent fg, you still get zerged to death due to hibs/albs always camp berk/beno and dont leave that area which inturn forces the fg mids to enter the area to get some action.

And when we do enter that area, we dont see roaming FG's it's just random low RR's high RR'scamping a bridge, or the cottage or that fricking stone at berk where all the archers camp. So when they fecking shoot ya u cant get up the bloody stone to get them lol.

Anyways the only time mid zerg is on a RR which never seems to work out sadly. :mad

But we still enjoy our RR, we joke around in the BG and we have a good (laugh )about it, even when we have failed for the 15th fricking bloody time.

(ust imo it would be nice to see a nice gathering of mids in RVR to counter the zergers, which have inturn become the zerg elitists, and inturn have given ofspring to further zergers, which zerg even more than the four fathers and become the zerg zergers of them all and destroy the world. And this just boils down to people zerging. )

Anyway enough about zerging.

 

[atos]

I'll start a bg everyday for zerging when I do RvR.. that is a promise. So if you see me as a BG leader it's the zerg bg!


And rest asured there will be blue hammers darkening the sky as they slowly slams down on you and grind you to dust. And in a distance you can hear screams of terror, it's a formidable THANE!!! Run for your lives!

 

[xxManiacxx]

such roleplayer atos

And about elitism/more arpess etc etc.

I don´t play for rp´s, I play the game the way I think it´s fun and that is solo or fg vs fg.

Zerg vs zerg could be fun if it involved some sort of tactics instead of seeing everyone running around like headless chickens.

 

[Nausilus^^]

If someone offered me a group for rvr, be it duo, trio, fg or zerg, I woulnd't hesitate to accept.. need rps and mlxp for most my chars, and I'm always interested in trying something new/getting more experience with the different play styles of the game. I don't believe that the game was "built" for a certain playstyle, but as most others point out, you should play the way you chose to because that's what you enjoy doing.

If you see Anheg, Nausilus or Nausiliussimus tossing around, don't be afraid to invite me to some rvr if you're going

 

[Yma]

It's true that mids are outzerged daily - the reason why we're not assembling a zerg too it's just disorganization, or little interest in counter zerging.

Gank groups are probably happy with this situation or they would do it themselves should their arpees being at risk, and same can be said about soloers and stealth groups. I believe there may be some furry creature that isn't happy about it but would prefere her g/f cheating on him than his name on a zerg bg, but luckily for the human kind this should be quite limited - what's left, is the many that would be happy to counter zerg but cba or feel uneasy at starting it, that is we lack zerg leaders.

Basically, the best suggestion for those feeling the lack of a friendly zerg: check BGs, and if none is running open one, then announce it to the alliance, don't wait for someone else doing it: he could be a furry creature. NE policy is to let guilds announce in /as periodically any public utility BG, I believe all others do the same. But this is not enough: to be of some use, you want people writing on it, or they will soon forget about it So have stealthers reporting and all ...

About clustering, I don't know how mid/exca is organized regarding zerg so I have no idea how it could be after clustering, but if they are at our same level, well, it's not going to be pretty.

 

[Azathrim]

Regarding the problem of spreading the information about BG's.

I am sure most alliances happily accept people giving info on a "RvR BG" on their alliance chat. So, if Trollum or anyone else starts suchs a BG, feel free to make that information available on numerous alliances.

Add to that, that the individual always can do /who BG (remember, capital BG) and see who holds BG's. If you see one in a frontier zone near you, chances are it's the one you are looking for.

Secondly, forming groups. Even if you zerg, it's always preferable to have a reasonable good group setup. You really need a couple of healers, shaman and some damage dealers. Once again, use alliance chat people! If you don't get enough replies in your own alliance - make someone ask in other alliances! You are always welcome to ask any Savage Conclave member to relay a request for a particular class/archetype on to the Alliance chat. And, I am sure other alliances will accept similiar requests.

And who knows... perhaps you will meet new people. Perhaps even new friends you could start running with on a more regular basis. One never knows ....

 

[Legaen]

The Mids on Excal have no problem with zerging, trust me, so I doubt it'll get worse.

 

[Zebolt]

If we do not LEARN to zerg (like, have two fgs of randoms leave the keep), RvR is going to stink even more for Midgard once we cluster.

Learn how to zerg? Haha, you mean our random middie doesn't even know how to zerg? Omg, we're worse than I thought xD

I can asure you, mid/excal knows how to zerg so don't be worried

 

[Aeris]

when we took hurb the other day with a crap load of mids, that was fun. we had a target, the numbers, and we succedded, eventually. givf more of that tbh after all it IS what the game is about.

 

[delete]

Add to that, that the individual always can do /who BG (remember, capital BG)

just a fyi, no need for capital BG this patch

 

[Elendar]

strange that people decide that midgard is getting pwned and what we need are zergs, every time the rvr grps stop running regulary

 

[Wholdar]

Add to that, that the individual always can do /who BG (remember, capital BG) and see who holds BG's.

Nitpick-note.. Since this patch you don´t have to use capital letters, /who bg works just fine. =)

/j - just as /who nf!

 

[brad]

TBH now you can spend hours getting a fairly opted grp up, head into alb/hib land and you get constantly zerged.

Just for me imo i spend hours getting a grp up, and as soon as you leave no albs or hibs seem to have roaming grps, it jsut lets camp the bridge with 4 fg hibs and put shrooms everywhere, or albs just camp the bridge towers with everyclass possible so as soon as you go near the bridge the casters in th grp are perma interrupted and so are the healers. So ofc u die everytime.

But was is midgard supposed to do? You make a grp go out find some hibs/albs get zerged, o look we made like 3 k rp in a hour due to its impossible to kill anyone because you get overwhelmed by shear numbers of enemy chars.

Im not saying we should zerg, but what alternatives do we have?

everytime i RVR'ed last week, ill make a grp which takes ages to do, go out in rvr and get constantly steamroled, just ends up people getting frustrated and people logg.

TBH we should think of something else we should do, but the only thing people think to do is zerg. WHAT about doing a weekly keeptake or something like that? get a large BG together and say ok guys what keep you fancy taking? Might bring a different aspect to the game, as using more siege weopons. All we use now is trebs and rams, what about using catapults but have thousands of them surroudning a keep and just bombard it? im sure we have never done that before.

It would just be a nice change to the game, have galatic batles with siege equipment.

Just an idea we could do, once a week we could just chose a keep to go for and make a large BG raid for it.

Once im back from my break, ill be up for leading these raids as a trial run to see how things go.I could make a rule where every mid need to carry atleast one piece of seige equipment and we make a good luagh about it. Instead of being rp whores lets go out as a realm and work together for a common goal, i.e taking a keep or doing a regular relic raid.

Just my $200 worth.

Sry if i rambled on and lost the plot, feel free to giv me a /slap if i did.

 

[Brite]

when we took hurb the other day with a crap load of mids, that was fun. we had a target, the numbers, and we succedded, eventually. givf more of that tbh after all it IS what the game is about.

yeh just proves we can easily do it, and i was there with a fg, we bombed them as they charged in aswell and killed 60+ by that time most mids had given up on defending for some reason, but the albs still outside alive after we bombed, that i was nuking where looking pretty shocked

and also what elendar said, midgard has been missing RvR groups sorely, only ones i see running is mael sometimes, and a group i always try to get going and have seen a couple other random groups, now with cluster/1.76 here, some rvr groups coming back you should in no way be whining at rvr guilds at all, the time without them has pretty much shown that midgard does far far better in rvr with them, and you should respect that, if you want them to help out in some way you might just ask, they are people, and somtimes do respond

 

[Taobitz]

Tes behave.

 

[Brelakor]

Yeah, you are all right, the game REALLY went to shits after i quit.
But im not coming back

 

[atos]

Ay mates! Raise from the terrible blow that has befallen us. Pick up your armour and sharpen your weapons and march towards our target with haste.

To Oriens bridge companions, to Oriens bridge with the rock and stone!

:touch:



Right.. so anyways, I had a zerg BG up for several hours.. it worked now and then.. but the set groups kinda like being zerged and outnumbered so basicly it will only result in a quiet desserted BG.