middies and pbt...

[old.Charonel]

...can sod off and die

please stop using it, it's quite annoying just sort of "forget" to cast it or something? it'd be much nicer of you really!

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

matey!

my runie is full spec runecarve!

i have no bubble!

shoot me! (and ya better get all my d0rf HP in 1 nice big crit)(quite easy actually)....otherwise!

root! -bolt-bolt!

/em scratches head, thinks he already gets owned so much by all the archers, why did he remind them he has no bubble.

/em laughs, oh what the hell!

 

[Madonion Slicer]

I am finding all Middie bolts quite funny at the moment they hardly touch me, you always see me standing up front taking about 4-5 bolts of you guys still with 3/4, but i guess that comes down to having a full spec enhance cleric right behind me he he

But yes PBT is a pain in the ass, but then having a caster myself i know it is what makes a difference form life or death, just need to have that /face macro handy as soon as BT drops.

 

[-yoda-]

cant get PBT in bg1 . afaik its a lvl26 skill in hib/mid same as it is in alb therefore only singel target bub or group bubble avaliable.

disclaimer i do presume u mean bg1

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

and additionally to your disclaimer

it is also OBVIOUS he means BT, that stops alot of archers first crit hits.

so put your facts and figures book down and read between the lines.

 

[old.Charonel]

sort of half right half wrong with the disclaimer, i was talking about the normal, single cast bt from casters because its' EXTREMELY irritating but i was more leaning to the use of it as pbt by having other group members casting it repeatedly onto the only bloody target i can kill in such and such a group

having each and every arrow stopped because some other realms version of a bubble boy is spamming their little nasal mucus onto that nearby caster is just depressing , effective though

 

[old.Charonel]

Re: matey!

Originally posted by old.Krogar_Thane
my runie is full spec runecarve!

i have no bubble!

shoot me! (and ya better get all my d0rf HP in 1 nice big crit)(quite easy actually)....otherwise!

root! -bolt-bolt!

hehe, you forget that i already have a bolt caster I KNOW YOUR WEAKNESS!

you can root me if you like but i wont mind because i almost certainly fire normal shots faster than your bolts, and casters are FAR easier to interupt than archers (i can only be interrupted whilst drawing, not once drawn, casters can be interupted at any tiime), oh and you'd better hope to hell that none of the other middies have even looked my way, because if they have then i'll laugh at your bolts as they get blocked by meelee by that troll just wandering out of mpk 600 yards away

you REALLY want to get me bad? nearsight and dot, i HATE those! , but bolts? if i were a scout then maybe...hangon, i'd have a shield so no , but as a ranger i have the option of firing very fast, and still doing enough damage to kill a caster in two hits after bladeturn i'll be looking for you now, not having to get through yet another damn bubble is too good to miss

of course that only counts if i make the attack, if you hit first then i'm in some seriously deep £$%^

 

[Gekul]

Ahhh, you playing your ranger again? My berserker is just about at bg level so look out for him
My runie was 17 rc 16 sup, so had the group bubble. Could still take casters down in two bolts though (really loved keep defence with him ) I expect full rc would take 1 bolt most times judging by the damage my rm did, I could nearsight the wizards and elds first though, which gave me a slight advantage

 

[old.Charonel]

i dont know how well full rune works, but if it's anything like full void it'll be like this:

caster, yellow con = 1spec bolt kill.

caster yellow con, = 1 non spec bolt and just about anything else because they'll be damn close to dead after the first weak bolt.

caster orange con = 1 spec bolt adn they're on a sliver of health, just look at em funny and they'll die after that

caster orange con = 1 non spec bolt and two DD's, but void DD's are weak, so not sure about runies.

pure tank, non gimped, yellow con = both bolts, about three DD's, obviously our "balanced" stun helps here so not sure about runnies

pure tank, non gimped, orange con = both bolts, and lots of DD's, risky as hell unless you have vast range to play about with.

archer, yellow con = food very easy kill if you get the stun in, both bolts and dead.

archer orange ocn = both bolts, 1DD and is dead, problem is stopping them fron interupting your 4second cast time on the bolts.

assassin, yellow con, not stupid = if your a hibby mage, you have a chance with the stun, because two bolts, sometimes one, and he's dead, other casters without stun? can't think you'll live much unless you have some form of CC such as root/mezz to get some range with.

assassin, orange con, not stupid = you should die, but as a hibby mage the stun gives you a chance to run at least.

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fighting a full bolt specced runnie i'd expect to die in two bolts (if they have two, not sure), BUT, with no stun i'm not sure how likely he'd be to actually get them off if i attacked first, but like i said, if HE attacked first, i'd be so low on health by the time my counter happened that i couldnt afford any mistakes, risky as hell and i'd be likely to die.

EDIT: if he has no selfcastable bladeturn, then i'm taking it back i am quite sure how likely he'd be to get those bolts off if i attacked first still doubt i'd kill him in one shot though, because the crit shot is so easy to nullify, you just have to be running anywhere and it only does normal damage rather than double, on the other hand i killed a runnie in one shot last night at the center keep, some mids were fighting albs, one runnie must have forgotten to recast bt after getting it knocked off and managed to let me crit him for just under 500 damage since i have more hps than a caster, and i have nowhere near 500 i'm be happy about that

 

[Danya]

I didn't have much trouble with tanks with my eld, Charonel. Stun and 3 dds would kill almost anyone (casters were normally down in 2), I could easily get 5 or 6 dds in before a tank could close. That's about 1000-1200 damage.
Archers? /face qc nearsight.
Bolt caster? nearsight
Only problem was assassins, they tended to kill me even if I got a mez on them cos their damn poison would eat my hp away. Not so much of a problem on my mentalist, but then I was vulnerable to bolts and archers due to lack of nearsight.

 

[old.Charonel]

hehe, may work for that light eld or menta of yours, but i'm talkign about a void eld, ie, very slow casting DD for hardly any damage, only one bolt that does damage worthy of the name etc...

good at killing avalonians when they dont know your there, but not for much else , hence the title below of voidgimp