Mid pow relic: neutral

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Iswind said:
Hehe what a dork I hope he made all the differance then cus i didnt see him at dagda either ;)
Possibly because he was standing at DL begging people to help him take scath back last night. Capish?
 

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Amadon said:
Belomar, I believe that had Adari committed to defending the realm, the majority of people on his raid would have followed him. He instead decided to continue with the raid, and since the leader of the raid continues with it, it gives other people justification to stay. That's the basis for my statements. If you want me to lie about what I believe, then you're speaking to the wrong person. If you want me to believe otherwise, then give me sufficient proof to change my mind.
Poor Adari. Dammed if he did, dammed if he didnt probably. He had to make a descision, he made it, tough call.
 

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Amadon said:
Belomar, I believe that had Adari committed to defending the realm, the majority of people on his raid would have followed him. He instead decided to continue with the raid, and since the leader of the raid continues with it, it gives other people justification to stay. That's the basis for my statements.
Yes, I agree with you there, and even if I was not even online at the time, much less a Hib and privy to your conversations, I would also say that realm defense has to come before ML raids (which you can always redo another day). So yes, in my humble opinion and with perfect hindsight, Adari should have suicided and called off the raid. However, what I don't agree with is naming him as the sole scapegoat for the whole relic loss--this can be traced back to all Hibs who have preferred to exp artifacts, roam in Emain, or explore ToA instead of defending and retaking your keeps.
 

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this didnt help to get peeps encouraged to join...
 

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chipper said:
/salute herbal this guy didnt want the relic cos he wanted to prove albs could do it without mids help so get off his god damn back. all you albs who said take it hope u know u owe mid a debt of gratitude how embarresed are you

I don't have a problem with them giving us the power relic (and if they want to give us the others to, well, Ardamel knows the way to Excalibur :) )

Obviously, it's to Mids benefit, but it helps us twice over - once by increasing our spell damage, and also by weakening Hib, which has been the realm that's been the biggest pain in RvR lately. Sorry Hibbies, lovely and cuddly as you are compared to the nasty Twolls, you're still my enemy :)
 

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lol how the fuck can ppl argue about nonsense... relics changed WHO THE HELL cares, blaiming one person for the loss of a relic which should be protected by A REALM is kinda retarded dept. Relics change, now hibs lost it... will get it back sooner or later or just to piss off mids will take the str relic. Pointing fingers... sigh, why cant ppl just say grats mids, nice raid :). thats all, not this pathetic flaming.
 

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Amadon said:
I'll live with the consequences of my actions. I always accept responsibility for my choices.

Belomar, I believe that had Adari committed to defending the realm, the majority of people on his raid would have followed him. He instead decided to continue with the raid, and since the leader of the raid continues with it, it gives other people justification to stay. That's the basis for my statements. If you want me to lie about what I believe, then you're speaking to the wrong person. If you want me to believe otherwise, then give me sufficient proof to change my mind.

If it's harassment, fine, report me and get me banned, it's not the end of the world for me.

lal u read the guide on c-e page on how to roleplay?~~
 

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Gordonax said:
I don't have a problem with them giving us the power relic (and if they want to give us the others to, well, Ardamel knows the way to Excalibur :) )

Obviously, it's to Mids benefit, but it helps us twice over - once by increasing our spell damage, and also by weakening Hib, which has been the realm that's been the biggest pain in RvR lately. Sorry Hibbies, lovely and cuddly as you are compared to the nasty Twolls, you're still my enemy :)

lol you just dont have a clue do you, you think they did it to weaken hibernia ? your wrong they did it so they could get a CS up in albion and so they could start farming albs again that is the reason they may say it was a clever tactic blah blah blah but you watch and wait alb will be swarming with mids soon cos they know at least the albs with no self esteem will go out to defend the relic should caer hurbury fall, oh that is if they can find it ofc i would suggest albs pull out there maps and find the right route to myrrdin
dont be shocked if the mids themselves come to take your staff either its the sort of joke i can see ardamel pulling, giv alb some hope then take it away would be quite funny if they did that tbh

10% is nothing albs still have very powerful casters without any relics and so do we hibs, nothing has changed guys all mids have done is a give a bonus to a realm well known for zerging if anything they now have 2 powerful enemies to fight not just 1 very stupid move on reflection giving it to albs
 

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chipper said:
lol you just dont have a clue do you, you think they did it to weaken hibernia ? your wrong they did it so they could get a CS up in albion and so they could start farming albs again that is the reason they may say it was a clever tactic blah blah blah but you watch and wait alb will be swarming with mids soon cos they know at least the albs with no self esteem will go out to defend the relic should caer hurbury fall, oh that is if they can find it ofc i would suggest albs pull out there maps and find the right route to myrrdin
dont be shocked if the mids themselves come to take your staff either its the sort of joke i can see ardamel pulling, giv alb some hope then take it away would be quite funny if they did that tbh

10% is nothing albs still have very powerful casters without any relics and so do we hibs, nothing has changed guys all mids have done is a give a bonus to a realm well known for zerging if anything they now have 2 powerful enemies to fight not just 1 very stupid move on reflection giving it to albs

lol the irony of u telling someone they dont have a clue. Tell me, what would mids do once they had the pow relic? Give it back to hibernia? Cos they sure as hell dont want it
 

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People pay their subs, they choose how to play the game. IF they want to do an ML raid thats up to them. End of story.
 

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chipper said:
lol you just dont have a clue do you, you think they did it to weaken hibernia ? your wrong they did it so they could get a CS up in albion and so they could start farming albs again

With all due respect, you're talking out of your arse. If Mids wanted to farm Albs, they'd look to Odins, which is where most of the Albs have been of late.

chipper said:
that is the reason they may say it was a clever tactic blah blah blah but you watch and wait alb will be swarming with mids soon

Good. Given that I've spent more time in HW and the Albion frontiers than any other RvR zones, I'd be more than happy to welcome them and you back.


chipper said:
cos they know at least the albs with no self esteem will go out to defend the relic should caer hurbury fall, oh that is if they can find it ofc i would suggest albs pull out there maps and find the right route to myrrdin

Great, we need some practice at defending Myrrdin for when we take the other power relics off you.

chipper said:
dont be shocked if the mids themselves come to take your staff either its the sort of joke i can see ardamel pulling, giv alb some hope then take it away would be quite funny if they did that tbh

I hope they try it, it'll be fun.

chipper said:
10% is nothing albs still have very powerful casters without any relics and so do we hibs, nothing has changed guys all mids have done is a give a bonus to a realm well known for zerging if anything they now have 2 powerful enemies to fight not just 1 very stupid move on reflection giving it to albs

10% is nothing yet you're crying like a new-born n00b about it. :twak:
 

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chipper said:
10% is nothing albs still have very powerful casters without any relics and so do we hibs, nothing has changed guys all mids have done is a give a bonus to a realm well known for zerging if anything they now have 2 powerful enemies to fight not just 1 very stupid move on reflection giving it to albs
We know you're bitter, Chipper, but please don't take it out on us hapless Albs. ;) Also, your mindless babble aside (I mean, do you even read your own rants? :eek7: ), this was a carefully considered move by the Mids designed to weaken Hibs as well as not affect their own relic guard pop.
 

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Belomar said:
We know you're bitter, Chipper, but please don't take it out on us hapless Albs. ;) Also, your mindless babble aside (I mean, do you even read your own rants? :eek7: ), this was a carefully considered move by the Mids designed to weaken Hibs as well as not affect their own relic guard pop.

Hopefully it will also bring in some variation to the game, always more fun when relics are fought over by 3 realms, rather than 2 :)
 

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noaim said:
Hopefully it will also bring in some variation to the game, always more fun when relics are fought over by 3 realms, rather than 2 :)


Atm it is 2 vs 1 which isn't very funny :E
 

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I wanted to suicide and defend at frist, but recieved an overwhlming number of complaints from the people of my raid, so I decided to keep up my promise and stay to finish ML3.

I made this decision partly based on the fact that only a few of us would have suicided to begin with, and me personally wouldn't have been able to make it to dagda in time. Also the fact that there were about 300 other hibbies online counted in my opinion, why should those who are exping artifacts, powerleveling alts or crafting, etc. not be told to defend, but 60 hibs, some of which have been waiting weeks for this final step, who spent 6 hours doing a ML, not be granted 5-10 minutes to finish it without a load of abuse in PM and in /bg, which put me off in the first place.

Apart from that I still do not believe I would have been able to influence the zerg that much. ML3 is not comparable and not considered to be like any other simple ML or dungeon raid. The zerg had a mind of it's own and I had to hold back fg's running around to next steps while others were fighting aggro all the time.

Anyway, we probably would have made it if we didn't have to listen to whine and frustrating comments, we probably lost 5-10 minutes to that, which was how long it took us to zerg Medusa, after which we suicided but didn't make it anymore. :>
 

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chipper said:
lol you just dont have a clue do you, you think they did it to weaken hibernia ? your wrong they did it so they could get a CS up in albion and so they could start farming albs again that is the reason they may say it was a clever tactic blah blah blah but you watch and wait alb will be swarming with mids soon cos they know at least the albs with no self esteem will go out to defend the relic should caer hurbury fall, oh that is if they can find it ofc i would suggest albs pull out there maps and find the right route to myrrdin
dont be shocked if the mids themselves come to take your staff either its the sort of joke i can see ardamel pulling, giv alb some hope then take it away would be quite funny if they did that tbh

10% is nothing albs still have very powerful casters without any relics and so do we hibs, nothing has changed guys all mids have done is a give a bonus to a realm well known for zerging if anything they now have 2 powerful enemies to fight not just 1 very stupid move on reflection giving it to albs

Have another rant m8, you cant beat a good, imbecilic rant imo :)
 

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1... Albs zerging realm? Maybe yes, maybe no. I did not find any single metion about forbidden zerging in game code. Every single member of every realm can choose his/her own way of fight.
2... It's the same like blaming mids for early morning relic raids. Game allows it, code allows it, there is nothing bad on it. Yes, it makes a lot of pple angry, but still, it's just a one of many allowed strategies.
3... You can't blame one person of losing relic. You can't even blame one or two not incoming groups. Getting and prottecting relics is so huge zerg action that these small comings/not comings can hardly play any role.
4... Who is to be blamed is Mythic/GOA. Thanks to them we albs can't finish single relic raid. You can say 'then take less pple and go for it'... Hehe, you forget that Albion TRULY IS the weakest realm (mathematicaly counted and averaged, every mid is 16% more powerful than any alb not counting relics), so we simply need more pple to handle the same what you need. Unfortunately Mythic really does not bother with true balancing of all 3 realms (some chars in some realms are really overpowered, some are really underpowered over all 3 realms)

I just want to salute mids... Their raid had to be really well planned.

And also I think I present all albs by saying We wish Mythic/GOA will provide us stabile server enough for keeping our own relic raid no matter if it ends for us with success or not. (OFC success sounds better ;-) )
 

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chipper said:
but you watch and wait alb will be swarming with mids soon cos they know at least the albs with no self esteem will go out to defend the relic should caer hurbury fall, oh that is if they can find it ofc i would suggest albs pull out there maps and find the right route to myrrdin

Even with no self esteem we don't bitch like you do, and as for finding a map to our relic keep...never heard of a Snowdonia transporter, one of those new fangled things that we can all use for keep defense. If you got your head from out of your own ass long enough you might see these lovely changes in the game.

Also, how the hell can a realm blame it all on 1 person, what if he was not online??...i can see it now, telephone (do you know what one of those new fangled things are?) calls to him "where the fook are you, we lost a relic because of you" ...was laughing like hell, very very petty to blame 1 person.
A few people in your realm need a reality check and a good :twak:

Oh yeah...cracking raid Mids...bet that really pissed on a few hibbie bonfires...and big kudos to the hibbies who say well done.
 

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Harthai said:
So im lying in bed enjoying a little rest...when my phone rings ,i decide to leave it ringing but as soon as it stopped it rang again.

I pick up the phone and its my friend screaming that the mids took our relics.I was like "impossible!".
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rofl irl..some people..
 

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Honza said:
1... Albs zerging realm? Maybe yes, maybe no. I did not find any single metion about forbidden zerging in game code. Every single member of every realm can choose his/her own way of fight.
2... It's the same like blaming mids for early morning relic raids. Game allows it, code allows it, there is nothing bad on it. Yes, it makes a lot of pple angry, but still, it's just a one of many allowed strategies.
3... You can't blame one person of losing relic. You can't even blame one or two not incoming groups. Getting and prottecting relics is so huge zerg action that these small comings/not comings can hardly play any role.
4... Who is to be blamed is Mythic/GOA. Thanks to them we albs can't finish single relic raid. You can say 'then take less pple and go for it'... Hehe, you forget that Albion TRULY IS the weakest realm (mathematicaly counted and averaged, every mid is 16% more powerful than any alb not counting relics), so we simply need more pple to handle the same what you need. Unfortunately Mythic really does not bother with true balancing of all 3 realms (some chars in some realms are really overpowered, some are really underpowered over all 3 realms)

I just want to salute mids... Their raid had to be really well planned.

And also I think I present all albs by saying We wish Mythic/GOA will provide us stabile server enough for keeping our own relic raid no matter if it ends for us with success or not. (OFC success sounds better ;-) )

Like i said before. Albs on Stonehenge raided Dagda with arround 80 Albs Primetime and got the Relic. So you don't need 456 Albs to attack.
 

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Amadon said:
I'll live with the consequences of my actions. I always accept responsibility for my choices.

Belomar, I believe that had Adari committed to defending the realm, the majority of people on his raid would have followed him. He instead decided to continue with the raid, and since the leader of the raid continues with it, it gives other people justification to stay. That's the basis for my statements. If you want me to lie about what I believe, then you're speaking to the wrong person. If you want me to believe otherwise, then give me sufficient proof to change my mind.

If it's harassment, fine, report me and get me banned, it's not the end of the world for me.

Lol @ you.
 

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You think? You are welcome then to join us and try it. I will be the first who will come ;-)

And also... I am not saying it's impossible... You just need damn luck ;-)
 

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Amadon said:
If it's harassment, fine, report me and get me banned, it's not the end of the world for me.

But it seems like losing a single relic is
 

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lol @ belomar possibly the only alb whos oppinion i might actually listen to on this thread im not bitter just a little pissed off at the lack of defence on hibs part yup QQ me if i didnt care i shouldnt play

as for not saying well done heath read the whole thread moron i did say well done to ardamel i never at any point said his raid was shit it was a bloody good raid


@heath ok smart ass tell me if you can get to myrddin in under 1 minute like the hibs can get to dagda they cant believe me many of us have tried why do you think for such a long time albs havent given 2 shits about myrddin cos it was un defendable it still is if u get surprised youve lost it pure and simple that hasnt changed in 2 years theres agro severe LOS issues

am i crying about it maybe maybe not im pissed at hibs and a large portion of albs who seem to have no back bone, after having a relic attempt get screwed because of a spy or unfortunate circumstances dont know tbh dont care mids did what the albs couldnt and as a further insult to albs and certainly herbal in particular they dump it right on your doorstep id feel quite ashamed and humiliated by it tbh
at rest of the albs who are trying to flame lol u just aint worth it
 

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chipper said:
lol @ belomar possibly the only alb whos oppinion i might actually listen to on this thread im not bitter just a little pissed off at the lack of defence on hibs part yup QQ me if i didnt care i shouldnt play
Fine. :) And I'm actually honored. :)
 

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