@ mid FG's or 1/2 FGs

[Tilda]

5 whiffs from one savage, 3 whiffs from the zerker. I'd taken around 1k damage before the sav popped his buffs. Lived through the stun and was a pity SQ was down.

You are missing the whole point. The old Mid groups would have killed me in around 2 secs, without using stun or self buffs. That is when they didn't /wave and run on leaving me mezzed You even had to use con shears, stun and self buffs lol.

PV talk a good game but struggle to back it up. Just good for killing soloers and whining when they get zerged atm.

Killing 23 out of an alb zerg before the 7 of us who didnt LD died isnt bad for backing it up imo.
The thing is, its so easy for soloers to move around now, if we leave you around, any future long fight we we're in, its highly probably you'll add. How many soloers do you know, who, if left by a fg, won't add on their fights if they get the chance.

With 3 tanks hitting you, 1k dammage is about half of the first combat round, so i fail to see how an old group could kill you faster unless with was with pbaoe. By this standard, the savage has pretty quick fingers if he poped his buffs mid way though a combat round, before you died.

The thing is, we've had this argument before, that soloers will always add on fg's and so shouldnt whine when the fg's kill them.

Tilda

 

[Lethul]

Killing 23 out of an alb zerg before the 7 of us who didnt LD died isnt bad for backing it up imo.
The thing is, its so easy for soloers to move around now, if we leave you around, any future long fight we we're in, its highly probably you'll add. How many soloers do you know, who, if left by a fg, won't add on their fights if they get the chance.

With 3 tanks hitting you, 1k dammage is about half of the first combat round, so i fail to see how an old group could kill you faster unless with was with pbaoe. By this standard, the savage has pretty quick fingers if he poped his buffs mid way though a combat round, before you died.

The thing is, we've had this argument before, that soloers will always add on fg's and so shouldnt whine when the fg's kill them.

Tilda

i think the savage sounds pretty crap. was it maybe one of the 2 korgon was trioing with yesterday? then i can back it up he was pretty crap

 

[Skilgannon]

Not whining, I expect fgs to kill me. You just weren't very good at it.

As for one combat round, sorry. The first hit was a double from the savage, then a single, a whiff followed by a hammer hit from Korgon for 174. Next 4 swings whiffed. Last but 1 hit was blocked as stun had worn off.

Fgs should also not whine when 8fgs roll them. It's the game.

 

[Bloodclot]

soloers shouldn't whine when steamroled by fg's.

its just a game

 

[Blackrhag]

So you just post here because ?

We didnt kill you in 2 sec ... . Next whine plz ...

 

[Neffneff]

Not whining, I expect fgs to kill me. You just weren't very good at it.

As for one combat round, sorry. The first hit was a double from the savage, then a single, a whiff followed by a hammer hit from Korgon for 174. Next 4 swings whiffed. Last but 1 hit was blocked as stun had worn off.

Fgs should also not whine when 8fgs roll them. It's the game.

Let me get this straight..you are whininig about getting killed by mid FGs, but not getting killed fast enough? or that they use some of their game given skills to kill you faster.

am i the only one that finds this strange? maybe you should roll mid..teach a few of them how to kill your present class..then give them the /loc of where you are gonna be..and sit there and wait to die?

that orta spd things up a bit.

very strrange person..very strange.

 

[Skilgannon]

So you just post here because ?

We didnt kill you in 2 sec ... . Next whine plz ...

Because I agreed that mid groups are not as good as they used to be...

 

[Marc]

I once had a high RR caster from midgard moc on me when i was solo and he was with his fg. MOCING AGAINST A SOLO PALLY!!!!

And yeah, when ever JH or NP used to gank me solo, not once did they feel the need to use self buffs

 

[Blackrhag]

Well could be true.
A other thing is :
I never played a tank before this group same with other savage so give us some time .

 

[majik]

I do fz soloer's myself when I'm in a fg for one main reason:

Me laxj the whine threads they create on FH....

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

JH / NP / and all old mid-melee groups enjoyed the 20% melee damage though.... You know, think back to when albs didnt have melee relics...

 

[Skilgannon]

Let me get this straight..you are whininig about getting killed by mid FGs, but not getting killed fast enough? or that they use some of their game given skills to kill you faster.

am i the only one that finds this strange? maybe you should roll mid..teach a few of them how to kill your present class..then give them the /loc of where you are gonna be..and sit there and wait to die?

that orta spd things up a bit.

very strrange person..very strange.

Not strange at all. I just find it amusing when a group needs buff shears, stun, nukes and self-buffs to kill a soloer.

And I do think fgs should kill soloers, it's a realm war.

 

[Calo]

Not whining, I expect fgs to kill me. You just weren't very good at it.

As for one combat round, sorry. The first hit was a double from the savage, then a single, a whiff followed by a hammer hit from Korgon for 174. Next 4 swings whiffed. Last but 1 hit was blocked as stun had worn off.

Fgs should also not whine when 8fgs roll them. It's the game.

Then i should be whining to, to those high rr albs (rr8+) who actually have to mezz, debuff, put pet on me and then assist nuke me dead.

I don't.

and jpeg yes i use radar, and after newyear i have the new version with gps.
So ill just have to type in ur name in!

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

Not strange at all. I just find it amusing when a group needs buff shears, stun, nukes and self-buffs to kill a soloer.

They dont have to, its just easier + faster to do it that way...

Why chase something that might stealth, run into agro, run into a zerg, if you can just stun it ? I'm sure the shears / nukes / etc is cause everyone wants to join in on the gank fun...

Its all so much faster... But I feel sorry for the casters sometimes though

 

[Votan]

And perhaps a couple of k from the solo'ers we killed

Was an early Christmas pressie

 

[Mirt]

I don't expect FG's to leave me alone. Tbh I'd expect to die in 0.000000001s vs just about any fg with spec buffs.

I'd rather die figting, than riding some lame wirlwind.

As for vanish I don't have that, and IP hardly gonna be worth using vas a fg.

 

[Skilgannon]

I'd rather die figting, than riding some lame wirlwind.

They will prob think twice about when when to use it once it's nerfed.

 

[Zeratuhl]

Just take a look in the Midgard section of this forum.. <specifically the dear hibbies thread>

did i post there? :touch:

 

[Votan]

Did I say that (solo) enemies should be left alone? :touch:

 

[Astrix]

Not strange at all. I just find it amusing when a group needs buff shears, stun, nukes and self-buffs to kill a soloer.

If i was in a FG against a stealther i would AE debuff him/AE Nuke him/AE stunn him aswell. In doing so i hope to find other stealthers to close to the detected stealther exposed and ready to be farmed.

 

[Sanzor]

Not strange at all. I just find it amusing when a group needs buff shears, stun, nukes and self-buffs to kill a soloer.

And I do think fgs should kill soloers, it's a realm war.

Wtf does it matter? Selfbuffs have no cooldown and if he had a healer along in grp, why the hell not press your buffs? The more he hits you, the more rps he get. Its called leeching.

Same with all the other shite, its just spells costing like nothing with current powerpoll bonusses and crap. Pop it all imo.

 

[Skilgannon]

The more he hits you, the more rps he get.

He was grouped with the others. Doh

 

[Dorin]

fecking zvg using selfbuffs, omg :< what a !

 

[majik]

Smilie of the month

 

[Eemma]

Also, Mirt, I believe i fought you yesterday north of the tower with the ruins, in hib. You had quite serious fachan aggro though ^^ I'd suggest not stunning me and mocing and running to bomb me, if you'd sorted out your aggro you might have had a chance to nuke me down after. As it was, althouh I got the DM, i got no RP's because I think the fachans killed you Tilda

I believe you got the wrong guy that is unless VW have MoC, stun spell and Pbaoe :>

 

[Tilda]

I believe you got the wrong guy that is unless VW have MoC, stun spell and Pbaoe :>

he does have a chanter in his sig though

 

[Mirt]

Also, Mirt, I believe i fought you yesterday north of the tower with the ruins, in hib. You had quite serious fachan aggro though ^^ I'd suggest not stunning me and mocing and running to bomb me, if you'd sorted out your aggro you might have had a chance to nuke me down after. As it was, althouh I got the DM, i got no RP's because I think the fachans killed you

That wasn't me, I've not played an enchanter this side of ToA.

 

[Jaapi]

Not whining, I expect fgs to kill me. You just weren't very good at it.

Unless you killed atleast one of them or escaped, they did a perfect job. You expected them to kill you, they did.

 

[kee-]

well skil you managed to kill me in my 1337 duo tonight with your mini reaver zerg

but by your logic was it really worth using levi? and using end? i mean why bother.

you used it so u must be really crap, so are the rest of your group...

makes sense doesnt it?

 

[Skilgannon]

well skil you managed to kill me in my 1337 duo tonight with your mini reaver zerg

but by your logic was it really worth using levi? and using end? i mean why bother.

you used it so u must be really crap, so are the rest of your group...

makes sense doesnt it?

Well. We thought 4 Reavers vs 20+ mids was fair odds. Was a fun night