Mid caster assist train?

[Tilda]

What classes would you use? and what specs?

Was thinking dark rm assisting a carving rm perhaps?

 

[charmangle]

What classes would you use? and what specs?

Was thinking dark rm assisting a carving rm perhaps?

All depends on the amount of assists, and how the group is setup.
In a good setupgroup Id use carver, darksm, BD så that you have the useful petinterrupts.

In a 2 man group roaming id use carver + darksm.
In a 2 man zerg group Id use carver + carver or carver + warlock for the bolt instakills.
In a fg pure caster id use carver, BD, darksm, darksm, thane.

But its all good usually! You do need the cold debuff though, it helps alot on tanks!

/Charmangle

 

[Tilda]

Probably going to be a small ish group, and I dont think would want more than 2 casters.

 

[Ati]

carver and SM is best in my opinion.

 

[Tilda]

Why SM rather than dark RM?
RM has higher delve nukes?

 

[Megarevs]

Why SM rather than dark RM?
RM has higher delve nukes?

The sm have utility, dark rm have nothing extra to bring to the small group

 

[Tilda]

Well potentially the dark sm could get ns or low bt, whereas the sm brings a pet and low pbaoe if lifetap spec?

 

[Megarevs]

Well potentially the dark sm could get ns or low bt, whereas the sm brings a pet and low pbaoe if lifetap spec?

if you tri-spec the rc rm, he have ns, debuff, speed and pbt. the sm have pbaoe mess, ae mess, stat debuff, pet, lifetransfer and low level pbaoe

 

[Jess]

Well potentially the dark rm could get ns or low bt, whereas the sm brings a pet and low pbaoe if lifetap spec?

+ little better survivability + ranged aoe mezz and lots of debuffs (aoe and single target).
Dont underestimate the pbaoe ... allthough low its still very usefull

 

[Tilda]

What if you turned it to a trio:

Healer, Valk + something.

Would you add sm or rm?

 

[Nuxtobatns]

healer trispec and thane ftw

 

[arcofirme]

When u talk about RM trispec, is it 22/11/48 or whatelse ?

 

[Megarevs]

When u talk about RM trispec, is it 22/11/48 or whatelse ?

31 dark 25 supp 36 rc

What if you turned it to a trio:

Healer, Valk + something.

Would you add sm or rm?

Depends on the spec of the healer, if aug, id take a sm, if pac id take a rm

 

[charmangle]

What if you turned it to a trio:

Healer, Valk + something.

Would you add sm or rm?

You go darksm instead of dark rm because you get the cc and lifedrain. Lifedrain is very cruicial when it comes to roaming. Not to menation that the pet is really important (both when beeing jumped by stealthers and vs casters). And the utility you get from a darkrm is the same as you get from the carver, so really no point in having another one.

Also the delve difference on the darkrm nuke isnt as high as you might think since the casting speed is alot lower on the sm.

If you go 3 people groups you can have basically anything.
3 spec healer (or aughealer for speed if no rm) + valk + thane/BD/darksm/darkrm (for speed)/

Most works...

/Charmangle

 

[cmr]

If there is any caster at all it has to be an RC RM (48rc,22d,11s) Gets everything you need any other spec is silly to change to IMO

In regards to small group if you are running a healer an SM isnt needed as much

Any of the casters Dark RM, BD, SM will work with an RC RM

Dark RM offers higher nuke, blue pbt and blue NS

Dark SM offers lifetap, debuffs and pet

Dark BD offers banelord, twf, 4 caster pets that can assist or interupt, small lifetap and ae dd snare (45d,29s)

If your running a small group of 3... healer, rc rm and bd would work nice, sm added or instead of the bd aswell

Small groups imo dont work well with tanks so i wouldnt run any unless someone really wanted to play one, if you do and its a solo caster you are running it depends on the player but rc rm is best followed by sm, it just depends if the player can position well and not get raped by tanks and not need the intercept pet to save him

Basically run an RC RM (48rc,22d,11s) or else you are hitting your head against a brick wall. Any group that doesnt have an RC RM is stupid imo.


PS: Spec the healer 38 pac 33 mend 19 aug for green celerity and capped bases with the right items, is an ace spec for small groups where you will only have one healer, will need to spec it perfector to get cure NS because without it if your NSed your fucked

 

[Nate]

Dark SM + Darkcarver imo is pretty good.

The Dark SM brings dex/qui debuff, mezz, ml9 pet, intercepting pet, lifetap, baod(<3), low pbae for pet spam/zo's, root.

The Darkcarver brings cold debuff, grey ns for top range, aoe spears, bolts for nice range aswell, speed, some pretty useless ra's, root.

 

[Cadelin]

I hear that the realm rank 13 runie (on lyonese) runs with a bd in quite a mean duo alot.

I am not saying this is the best as an assist train but your questions seem to be heading in the "small group" direction. Then again at rr13 and rr11+ most duos would kick ass.

 

[Bistrup666]

31 dark 25 supp 36 rc


Depends on the spec of the healer, if aug, id take a sm, if pac id take a rm

OI I would never use a rm like that U pretty much gimp main bolt, and U only get yellow debuff wich is atleast 100+ a nuke damagewise for U and everyone assisting. U get slightly bette ns but still NO pbt wich is at 26 sup.

Else Brite pretty much said it all.

oh in short dark rm = more damage and nice dam add for tank train
dark sm = much better survivability and better util (spec debuffs and ghetto mezz)

 

[islef]

Pac, skald, sm or rc/dark rm....

 

[pjuppe]

Pac, skald, sm or rc/dark rm....

wft? you're actually writing something i can agree with?

 

[Ati]

tri spec healer valk and sm would be nice matey

got the good old boad+warguard there and frankly its the best utility. Doubledex debuff is really as good as nearsight and cannot be cured