Michael Carroll (Lotto Lout) almost broke

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altho i think hes a complete prat, got nothing against spending the money he won

beats those people who die with millions in their banks. if you are lucky enough to have that amount of money, use it and enjoy it, dont fakin die with it ;s!

He can still die, when Big "16 Inch" Billy powershafts him, for being fancy :p
 

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9.7 million sure would be nice....*drool*
 

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You want to know why I can honestly be so argh? I'll tell you Toh. The guy lives right near me. The people he pelted with maccy D's finest are friends of friends.

Simple solution mate, tie the McD's to a brick and throw them back at him. I'm sure the other locals would cheer you on!
 

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How can people honestly be so ..."argh!" and say he's stupid for spending it like HE wanted to as it was HE who won it? :eek6:

I wouldn't judge someone for giving half to their family, or putting it in bank to mold, or anything else!
I thnk they're judging him for being a useless piece of human excrement, basically.
 

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What a prick serves him right tbh. Bet all his hangers on dissapear along with the money leaving him with sweet FA plus a criminal record he'll be destitute in no time at all.

On another note lotteries by their very nature are nothing but a tax on the poor promising untold riches to a minute percentage of players. At the end of the day whether we agree with it or not if they play and win then they can do whatever they like with it.

Bloody stupid spending all that though what a tard. If he`d have put a million in the bank that would have been plenty then spent the rest but idiots like this just don`t learn. There was a woman on tv the other day who won the pools in 1960 or something and caused a str by saying she was gonna spend spend spend. Well she did and now she`s got nothing bet she regrets it now.
 

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blah i cant stand the guy, i wont go on about why arseholes like that are allowed to win the lotto because shit happens but lets just say i hope he dies from a very painful genital rotting STD and leave it at that.
 

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As we've discussed the matter, and evidently all agree on the fact that "you can live your life and spend your cash as you will, as long as, and shouldn't be judged"

...i'll move more on-topic and honestly i still don't know what the guy has done to deserve to "die of aids" etc.

He threw hamburgers at old people(which is basically a skit from any candid camera show) and trashed a bar or two? In regards to "behavior hurting others".

If that's reason enough to kill someone, hell, we need to kill half the football fans around. While we're at it, half the people drinking altogether.

Or is this "he should die!" just some cultural way of saying "Oh i dislike him".
 

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no... i actually hope he would die of something vey unplesant. I never said i was right its just how i feel.

Not just him either I kind of live in the vague hope that all people like him will contract syphillis and die too, yeah call me hitler i dont care its how i feel but being prejudiced against arseholes isnt anything i'd ever be ashamed of.
 

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The reason people wish very unpleasant death upon this guy is that he embodies everything that is wrong in society of the UK currently.

People who work hard and tow the line are punished while tards like this guy who flaunt the law get away with murder. The gap between rich and poor in Britain continues to grow exponentially with the poor paying a higher than ever proportion of their income in taxes while the rich are paying less than ever.

The guy won all this money and instead of setting his whole family up for life and changing them all for the better he pissed it away on drink and drugs, caused untold havoc in his community broke the law on many many occasions and is a thoroughly unlikeable person. He personally stated he was gonna continue to act like a total prick to everyone because now with all this money he has a licence to.

Anyway point I'm trying to make is this guy set himself up for a fall and now everyone wants to see the harshest penalty possible on this person who embodies the chav underclass of the UK. Violent, inconsiderate, aggressive, selfish, uncaring, lawbreaking scumbag and thoroughly unlikable.
 

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There was a woman on tv the other day who won the pools in 1960 or something and caused a str by saying she was gonna spend spend spend. Well she did and now she`s got nothing bet she regrets it now.
Viv Nicolson iirc. She's once something of a icon at one point - working class woman made good - and very famously blew it the lot, no regrets at all. She got an autobiography out of it, so prolly not so badly off.

Mebbe Michael Carroll will treat us to an autobiography :)

Philosophical question: It's verboten dish out die irls to players, but okay to irl people?
 

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...i'll move more on-topic and honestly i still don't know what the guy has done to deserve to "die of aids" etc.

He threw hamburgers at old people(which is basically a skit from any candid camera show) and trashed a bar or two? In regards to "behavior hurting others".

If that's reason enough to kill someone, hell, we need to kill half the football fans around. While we're at it, half the people drinking altogether.

Do you really not see what you're saying here toh?

A skit from any candid camera show? what? not even on dirty sanchez or jackass have I ever seen anything like that.

And a bar or two? The man did it practically every time he left his house.

Some of the more extreme football hooligans sensationalised by the media might, might just reach his level, but to be fair, Its nowhere near half, its probably near 1%, and if I'm being honest, I'd happily see them burn too.

As for "Half the people drinking together"? what? yea, some of the most extreme people out there might go ape and smash a bar up once or twice in thier lifetimes and get banned/arrested whatever, but I doubt they go out specifically for that purpose, or if the number of bars people like that do in ever reaches double figures.

And toh, unless you really are an extremely strong willed pacifist(or a coward), I would expect you would be saying exactly the same thing that I am now had it of been your grandad being used for target practie with burgers by a yob while he was out doing his shopping.

Seriously, I dont get how you can take the "so what" view with something like this.

You do not disrespect people who were old enough to have lived through WW2 by throwing food at them for the simple reason that you felt like it.

People who do things like that absolutely 100% deserve to die painfully in my books.
 

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Do you r*snip*my books.

Where to start...

Throwing burgers, doesn't even constitute for a smirk really. Guess it's a cultural thing. Oh noes, he threw a burger. Big deal in this world. Seriously, throwing burgers warrants a deaththreat? And yes, flying burgers is a candid camera prank these days. Seen much worse things aswell.

Second, you don't even know he went out to trash a bar on purpose. Just the media, which evidently exaggerates the hooligans as you say, might have exaggerated his behavior? And by your definition, everyone who does do stuff in a bar that's not kosher(and it happens alot more then those figures you threw), should be shot.

Calling me a coward is just poor manners and uncalled for, even if you did sugarcoat it. And no, i'm not a pacifist either, but not one to lose a bolt or two over a burger either. But in any case, if my grandfather lived, he'd laugh at someone throwing a burger at him too, and he fought in the world war. So would i if i heard about it.

I wasn't taking a "so what" attitude, i'm saying that trashing a bar or two or five, and throwing burgers, is HARDLY a warrant for a death threat. So if you don't have anything else on the guy, sure, he's scum, but these death threat things are just...well, you're no better really 'cause i honestly believe you'd cheer, honest to gods CHEER if he was shot. And that's just not good.
 

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Is it me or is Tohtori saying that throwing things at old people for no other reason than them being there is perfectly fine? Seriously you need to wake up thats terrible behaviour, I suppose if some big ape man walked up and spat in your face you'd laugh and say "lol great prank mate"

If you really beleive all that crap your spouting you must really be a complete twat yourself, I thought you were just a bit dim but from reading what your saying here your clearly a complete nob jockey who`d happily knock an old lady over cos it`s funny, or maybe glass someone in a bar cos what the hey they did something like that on candid camera once.
 

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Incidently a lot people do indeed beleive that scum who hold no regard for the law of this country should indeed be stoned to death.
 

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LoL :( Throwing a burger at somebody becomes a death threat.. That's classic.
 

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Depends if there was extra pickle in the burger
 

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Where to start...

Throwing burgers, doesn't even constitute for a smirk really. Guess it's a cultural thing. Oh noes, he threw a burger. Big deal in this world. Seriously, throwing burgers warrants a deaththreat? And yes, flying burgers is a candid camera prank these days. Seen much worse things aswell.

Your apathy makes me cringe.

I know of some pretty far out pranks, pulled a couple myself, but I think theres a line, and throwing shit at old people is pretty far across that line.

If someone threw shit at my grandad for no other reason that he was there I'd be properly angry.

Second, you don't even know he went out to trash a bar on purpose. Just the media, which evidently exaggerates the hooligans as you say, might have exaggerated his behavior? And by your definition, everyone who does do stuff in a bar that's not kosher(and it happens alot more then those figures you threw), should be shot.

No mate, YOU dont know, my brother was in my local when the guy rolls in with two mates carrying baseball bats. I dont think they were going to play a bit of indoor sports, you know what I mean?

Calling me a coward is just poor manners and uncalled for, even if you did sugarcoat it. And no, i'm not a pacifist either, but not one to lose a bolt or two over a burger either. But in any case, if my grandfather lived, he'd laugh at someone throwing a burger at him too, and he fought in the world war. So would i if i heard about it.

And toh, ---> unless <---- you really are an extremely strong willed pacifist(or a coward), I would expect you would be saying exactly the same thing that I am now

I am/was not calling you a coward. I dont sugarcoat things.

See those arrows point to the word unless? Read.

If I said "unless Bob has had sex, he is a virgin" then I am not calling 'Bob' a virgin, I am saying that unless he's had sex then he is. I am saying that unless you are a pacifist, or a coward, you'd have much the same view as me if you'd been affected by this peice of shit.

You're starting to get really annoying here. You arent even bothering to look at things from another point of view, its like you're actively going out of your way to ignore what I'm trying to say. and yes, I am trying to see how you can be so indifferent to this. I am trying to see how you can really mean what you are saying.

If you were out shopping, minding your own business, and all of a sudden you hear a car revv loudly and come down the road towards you, with some yob hanging out of the window, then the yob throws something at you that splats sauce etc over your clothes, probably hurts a bit if you are that age, and generally makes a mess, you are saying you would not be angry? you'd laugh? and even if your grandad wouldnt have minded, you'd have laughed after hearing it happened to him? WHAT?

If I heard that happened to my grandad, I'd go fucking light. I'd bounce off the walls and I'd swear to god that the peice of shit who did it would hurt. This isnt even the worst thing hes done, its just pretty damned close imo. How can you not see what I'm trying to say?!

I'm mystified.

I wasn't taking a "so what" attitude, i'm saying that trashing a bar or two or five, and throwing burgers, is HARDLY a warrant for a death threat. So if you don't have anything else on the guy, sure, he's scum, but these death threat things are just...well, you're no better really 'cause i honestly believe you'd cheer, honest to gods CHEER if he was shot. And that's just not good.


I'm no better because I'd happily defend my community?

I'm not saying I'm an angel, I know I get too angry over things like this, I know killing and violence are the last resort, I know that after you use violence to resolve a situation there are consequences, but by god, I know whats right and whats wrong, and even if two wrongs dont make a right, if one wrong can stop ten or twenty other wrongs from happening then I'd sure as hell do it.

I'm not sure if I'd be happy if I heard he had died, but I do know I'd be glad to know he wouldnt be hurting anyone else.
 

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No case, it's not you, but i'm neither saying that.

You're trying to see the wrong point here.

I was never defending this behaviour.

I said he's scum.

I don't condone, or ESPECIALLY do this kind of thing.

But saying it's ok to kill someone for this, is over the top.

In a nutshell. Now...

You did sugarcoat it as it was an ultimatum:

Unless the term "I would expect you would be saying exactly the same thing that I am now" is met, i'm a coward or a pacifist. Isn't that what you said?

I know you're adament about the issue, and have basically no leanway, but come on. Your whole attitude has been a bit condescending, thinking i don't understand what you're saying, saying that YOU try to understand while at the same time saying my POV is totally wrong and absurd. See what's wrong there?

This is the classic "you're either with us or against us!" attitude that so commonly happens. I'm NOT defending the guy, but i'm saying that wishing someone was dead because he flung burgers at old people is..overkill.

"No mate, YOU dont know, my brother was in my local when the guy rolls in with two mates carrying baseball bats."

Next time, mention that before saying "you don't know". Ofcourse i don't know, i wasn't there and you never mentioned anything but "trash a bar".

About my grandfather, if he could laugh at such, then it would be most likely, we would laugh WITH him at the situation. Just because you don't, or your grandfather wouldn't, doesn't mean it's wrong behavior.

"I'm no better because I'd happily defend my community?"

No, not what i was saying, i was saying that wishing a persons death makes you no better then the person themelves. Especially in this kind of, no need to be so dramatic, situation.

Hopefully that clears it.
 

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I've had some prick throw a bottle of fanta at me out of a car and a mars bar.

I was about ready to take on a car of 4 chavs whom through the fanta at me at the time, lucky they kept going.

People who fuck with other people are scum plain and simple and like the chavs i'll fucking kill the next fucker that lobs someting at me and i'm not joking.
 

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I don't see what's so hard to understand Tohtori.

What people are trying to say is - if you spend your money without affecting others (in a negative way) or doing wrong - then that's fine.

If you spend your money and cause pain/disruption or do wrong - then you don't deserve the money and in the extreme of cases you deserve to die painfully.
 

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I'm kinda siding with Toto on this. Although Carroll is a thoroughly nasty piece of works, its not like he's raped a bunch of school kids, chopped their bodies up, and made them into jam is it ? Yes he's a scumbag, but prison works fine.

Now if we were talking about kiddie rapists, then I'd say torture the mutherfucker before passing him over to the families for exection.

Think pronouncing the death sentence for a fuckwit is a tad over the top.
 

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