Merc Races - Endgame

[knighthood]

Ok

Im making a Thrust/Inconnu merc , what i basicly want to know is, endgame wise, whats the diff gonna be dmg wise between this lot..

Half ogre - Assumuing crush
Briton - Assumin thrust
Highlander - Assumin Crush
Inconnu - Assuming thrust
Avalonian - Assuming thrust

By what i mean is , in terms of dmg output, taking into consideration spd/str etc, what will it be like. Theres too many Half ogre mercs about and i cant recall ever seeing a 50 Inconnu Merc about (Prolly cos theyre not as good as H/O - Highlander) and the wasted int ofc. But dmg wise..

Say all with general same template , if a H/O hit for say 500 , what would my inconnu hit for , not taking into account armour types, just a general apoximate difference. Also assuming Duel weild styles here and not the crush/thrust lines, with 50/50 wep spec.. phew.. got all that ?

I know itll prolly take a lot of calculations but some of u are good at all that shit. If its any help i put 10str 10quick 10dex on his char creation (quick to bring it up to 60 base as connu base quick is teh gimp).

 

[Ballard]

Last I checked iconnu can not be a mercenary... Ofc was a long time since i tried.

 

[MaditioN]

inconnu can be merc! might not be as good as slash HO because they lowered damage tables to 5% but i looks cool as hell and would probably make ok dmg still

 

[Shike]

HO ftw ofc. actually not bad stats even for pierce. Firb in hib has great stats for pierce aswell. (as HO you can spec any weaponline you like and still do well, as inconnu you are gonna need some augstr3-4 later on to do same damagepotential as a HO, assuming u decide to respec crush or slash, I think its unwise to restrict oneself to one choice with inferior stats)

Besides, HO in DRclient looks really really mean too

 

[knighthood]

None of which ofc answers my question

 

[Shike]

None of which ofc answers my question

simple answer is, there is no answer Would have to put up two chars next to each others and do long tests to find out. What I can say for sure is that HO with slash will outdamage a Inconnu, with pierce it will be pretty similar.

 

[Himse]

Shike, you have flank + follow up qbound i hope =[

 

[Shike]

Shike, you have flank + follow up qbound i hope =[

its on Qbar 2, thats my solobar that I used when someone directly attacked me in a fight and I went headson. Flankchain aint too good straight on

 

[Wild]

as a Thrust Merc yr WS is going to be lower than Slash/Crush merc so you will do less damage on most classes with expetion to some armour types(mid chain you might do same as a 420+st HO slasher) The reason you will do less damage is due to your Primary and secondry Attributes str will raise every lvl and dex every other lvl on the road to 50.A weapon type that use's 100% str for damage tables will be hiting harder at lvl 50.
Thrust is based on (st+dex)/2 and an inconu start stats are 50 st 70 dex and HO is 90 st . this is quite a big difference when looking at lvl 50 HO Slash/Crush and a Inconu Thrust merc.

You could compensate at higher RR and get lots of Aug St/Dex but then you would be running around as a RR9 thrust merc hiting like a RR5/6 HO slash/crusher. would be a shame to waste needed RA's

been a long time since ive played my merc but im sure someone will correct me on the above if im wrong.
seen a couple of inc thrust merc's when SI came out but they are quite rare now, that very fact should sway you off rolling one tbh. even though they look DAM kewl !

i play a highlander and look at HO st stats and consider re-rolling a merc just to get the extra damage a HO can get.i will never beable to do that sorta damage at the same RR (unless i gimp my RA's).

 

[Andrilyn]

Wait a while and make a "Cow"

 

[Heki]

Considering racial stat, best output dmg are:

for thrust
1 - saracen
2 - briton
3 - high/inconnu

for slash and crush
1 - ho
2 - briton
3 - high

But you have to considerate WS

 

[Garok]

Would avoid thrust, template can be a right pain to make (expensive) and style line is toilet.

At the end of the day the increase or decrease in damage is going to be slight at 50 with template RA and Buffs

 

[Azathrim]

Considering racial stat, best output dmg are:

for thrust
1 - saracen
2 - briton
3 - high/inconnu

for slash and crush
1 - ho
2 - briton
3 - high

But you have to considerate WS

I disagree on the thrust part.

half ogre: 145 + 73 / 2 = 109
saracen: 105+113 / 2 = 109
briton: 115 + 93 / 2 = 104
inconnu: 105+103 / 2 = 104
highlander: 125 + 83 / 2 = 104
avalonian: 100 + 93 = 97

So for a thrust merc your choise is between a HO or Saracen. The real choise is between high con/lower qui or high qui/lower con.

Since a HO with a reasonable template can get near-cap qui, I personally belive the HO always will be the superior choise.

 

[Bahumat]

your weapons play a factor, traitors dagger is shit on a merc due to 15.0 dps. golden spear cant be used (if they anything like bm's) so you have spear of kings, nice proc but you need a 2nd weapon.

you dont get malice which is fucking awesome.

go crush, be like the rest and kick ass, dont go for individuality because it will only be worth something when your high rr.

i have an elf pierce bm and it does pretty great, but a crush firbie is so much nicer.

 

[Pertan]

Go ahead and roll inconnu merc, the fact that it's übercool cancels the fact that they do a bit less dmg per hit

 

[Heki]

I disagree on the thrust part.

half ogre: 145 + 73 / 2 = 109
saracen: 105+113 / 2 = 109
briton: 115 + 93 / 2 = 104
inconnu: 105+103 / 2 = 104
highlander: 125 + 83 / 2 = 104
avalonian: 100 + 93 = 97

So for a thrust merc your choise is between a HO or Saracen. The real choise is between high con/lower qui or high qui/lower con.

Since a HO with a reasonable template can get near-cap qui, I personally belive the HO always will be the superior choise.

I have considerate all for the dps considerating only initial stat.
Dps is hit dmg and hit per seconds, so have more quick = more dps.

I agree with you if you speak about WS (it's the same in HO and saracen) but not about dps

Inconnu and high have less quickness then briton.

 

[Azathrim]

Even a HO can be so close to the cap of 250 qui that it would appear futile to pick saracen for those few extra quickness.

 

[Shike]

Considering racial stat, best output dmg are:

for thrust
1 - saracen
2 - briton
3 - high/inconnu

for slash and crush
1 - ho
2 - briton
3 - high

But you have to considerate WS

not entirely true actually, saracen and HO land on same WS in thrust while HO is superior in slash/crush. Qui differs but as some said, it can be adjusted in templates pretty darn easy. HO also have higher hits than saracen aswell so.. I dunno, I wouldnt ever choose anything but HO unless it was for aestethics but, HO look great in DRengine.

edit: doh, saw some others wrote same stuff pretty much, sorry :S