Ment opinions wanted.

[Lisco_Cataluz]

<yawns>

and here is the facts from upcoming patch 1.52. Just trying to point few things for all mana mentas out there

- All DOTs now have their damage based on the caster's primary casting stat. This means that high intelligence (or other prime stat) casters will do significantly more DoT damage than they did previously.

- Increased range of Mentalist DoTs to 1500.

- Druid DoTs now stack with Mentalist DoTs.

- DoT spells are now properly affected by resistances to bring them in line with DD spells.

- The range of Mentalist Curative Trance line has been increased to be in line with the recent healing changes.

and with additional 2 tics to DoTs, they will be more powerfull than before 1.52

Well im rerolling to light, but reason for that is to seek for new challenges/styles/fun moments etc.

After all speccing really depends how u like to play, and after playing from early release to this day, i realy love to try light specced line also...

cu in game...


<Lisco>

 

[Quasimoto]

note.. that the mana ment allso has a baseline DD to use if hes desperate for dammage....
figgure it will do about 300ish with 20ish lightspec + items ofcourse

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Cool Lofff, basically, you did as you did before, acting like a cunt, you got nothing to argue, and you're bringing up my earlier leaving thread to score.. gg's.

And Lisco is correct, it is a matter of play style, but saying that the mana line is completely useless in RvR except for one or two spells is a bit over the top, and rather simple-minded.

If you follow that view, then I guess you'll be too stubborn to even bother changing your mind... some people like their entire reportoire of spells to consist of nuke and stun, others like me prefer a more varied and flexible style of play.

Indeed, when you come up against someone with 50% heat resists, and when your nuke hits for half the damage, you'll see nukes aren't all that.

 

[Qte Eth]

working pet in 1.52=unmessible ment ,unmessible means u can qc unmes ur friend -like bard so he can insta or a killing tank to gank their mages,or warden for bubble=kewl

 

[Danya]

ae dot > ae dd by far as ae dot doesn't have taper off towards the edges.

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by lofff
ok tzee.

now tell me how often u get a good chance to use ur dots and hots in rvr. (keep defence oh yes... sorry i was talking about usual rvr... but yes u can lvl ur mental to 50 and sit him on crim waiting for invadorks.)

AMG camping, keep defense for sure, if u got no mezzer in group

Originally posted by lofff

ur acting like a total idiot. support ur posts with arguments or shut up the fugging mouth cos u smell like a teen retard.

:sleeping: I will not discuss this until u grow up a bit and respect the opinion of others

 

[lofff]

And again tzee goes loopie... Light/mentalism mentas aint just a nuke and a stun. Read above and find me where i said mana ones are totally useless, mana rocks pve, light rocks rvr, period. Thats all and u are the one who started bitching/flaming etc Its not that ive got nothing to argue or am too stubborn... its just that am not interested in ur childy flames nemore cos u never admit when u are wrong. (i do.) now plz leave it and have fun.

Originally posted by old.Laryssa


AMG camping, keep defense for sure, if u got no mezzer in group

LOL yes ur v.experienced rvr player /clap (hahaha)

Originally posted by old.Laryssa

:sleeping: I will not discuss this until u grow up a bit and respect the opinion of others

Id rather not discuss with u nemore tho... since ur the one not respecting/laughing at others opinion:

and again LMAO - get back to your Large Weapons

 

[Kobold]

Imo, light mentas is "better" in RvR if I can use that word. Cause you can't really compare those specs since they mean totaly different play styles. But when we talk effective killing ofcourse the light spec is uber cause thats the only purpose with it. As for mana..thats the "half-support" spec where you can cast a few dots, pot and hot on peeps and maybe nuke or heal a little bit. mentalism is only support class...they can only heal/mez and not much more (gimped spec imo). And then we have light, wo got uber DD and uber aoe DD. Theire job is to nuke only.

This is how I see it. I played a light ment to lvl 30ish and find it very fun, maxed my rps in BG1 and must say the aoe nuke is uber in zerg fights and few vs few 16sec mez one stun the other nuke nuke nuke stun nuke nuke or some like that. A mana ment is more group friendly and all in gorup luv you for the incredable nice mana battery.

...thinking maybe they should move the charm to the mana line

 

[old.Laryssa]

In my opinion, both the mana and the light menta are both good RvR classes - each has it's + and - in certain RvR situations.

Mana: in keep defense, camping (MGs) - Tzee owned in the epic Surs defence
Light: direct assault but we suck in keep defenses IMHO

And yes - there are groups with NO mezzer - nothing to flame about - and there a AoE DoT helps in direct assault too.

Originally posted by lofff
LOL yes ur v.experienced rvr player /clap (hahaha)

:sleeping:
LMAO - never said so - at least I don't pretend too be one
and don't come with rp counts - would make me LMAO even more.

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by lofff

Id rather not discuss with u nemore tho... since ur the one not respecting/laughing at others opinion:

Sufferering from a little irony deficiency are we? Perhaps you missed the smiley in laryssas post?

You know what I tell people when they ask me what the best class is? (blademaster but I never say it ) Nothing, other than advise people to try something until they know what they like.
Have the advantage of 2 accounts across all 3 realms and can honestly say I've tried every class on hibernia, there is no singular way to spec a class beyond avoiding a right nasty gimping like making your warden full weapon spec/parry and none in nurture

I'm not sure I could call myself an rvr veteran, I know I've made as many mistakes as those who consider themselves top of the food chain and I know others have trusted me enough to do the leading but on the whole I watch how things are done and to get back on topic I agree wholeheartedly with one thing AOE dot is almost certainly no good when you have a mezzer, but it is good in other situations.

Hell, way back on the old daoc boards I posted asking for help with speccing my BM and got "roll a better tank" but I never let it put me off, I had a shield hero, and BM was fun to play, something few others seemed to notice.

I wouldn't say mentalism was gimped, just anyone who specs that as a 2nd line can expect to do a lot of healing (at least the spec heals are quite nice) and possibly lose out on the fun of mana (or nightmare when you consider how many tells you get asking for mr).

 

[Kobold]

Don't fuck with luris, give em cookies like I do instead

 

[Juanita]

Plz ppl, dont respec to light! Then i'd have to play mana again, and i HATE swapping instruments around

Gimme crack anyday

 

[old.Laryssa]

Regarding EXPERIENCE - i'm OLD.laryssa

OLD = wise + experienced

Originally posted by old.Eternal[EW]
Don't fuck with luris, give em cookies like I do instead

YAY Uncle Kobbie

Originally posted by Juanita[EW]
Plz ppl, dont respec to light! Then i'd have to play mana again, and i HATE swapping instruments around.

To lazy to buy Serenity too, eh ?

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by lofff

ps: tzee, manamental best on exping, suggs on rvr :/ :|

You said this: I found this to be untrue.
Your counter?

Light kills faster.

Mine?

Still kills, albeit a bit slower, and requires a different play style.

If you take a very valid spec, that I've taken a few months to play with, and just dismiss it as if it was totally crap, as the quote implies, then I do take some offence at it, since when I played it, it was very acceptable to me.

You're trying very hard to put me across as a ranting child, but I've taken the time to put a mentalist to 50, equip him with good gear, and I know how to play the class, I've spent months learning about it, and experiencing it, how to react to certain situations, and someone like you comes along, who tries to say all that work was useless, I'm stupid, and there's nothing viable about the spec at all in RvR.

Frankly lofff, you just seem to become more a cunt each day.

You portray yourself as some honourable person, who would take friends over loot, who doesn't take the game too serious, and be one of the 'normal' people...
But we both know this ain't true.

So cut the crap.

 

[Juanita]

Originally posted by old.Laryssa



To lazy to buy Serenity too, eh ?

Serenity 2 here
But too lazy to play mana, i got lute in the first slot and drum in the second. I only do mana song when we have no mentalist and recovering.

 

[old.Laryssa]

yeah - it sucks - they should AUTOSWITCH the instrument and the bard should only need to press the song !

would be a big improvement

 

[PJS]

Actually I had my heart set on 45l/24m/17ment since I started my character. However Ive never bothered charming in PvE too often because of drain trouble. You can either nuke or let pet kill, but I find if you try to do both at the same time you lose power too quickly. Also, trying to get rid of the pet is a right pain, I have real trouble targeting it because its still a 'friendly'. Also, in current patches anyway, if youre in a speed group in rvr you cant have a pet, resists drop you out of speed.

However, in a group I usually end up healing more than nuking (when you finally hit a high purple with your sunday best nuke and it only does 8 damage its time to do something more useful instead)

So now Im leaning towards a very ODD looking spec 4l/46mana/28ment. Best hot/pot/aoe dot, 2nd best spec dot, decent variance on baseline dot, 250+ heals, 44s mez, 110% confuse and of course the new unmez spell (which even in my short rvr career would have been useful on many occasions).
Im really looking forward to suicide charging 5fg of albs at a mg standoff and seeing how many I can hit with my dot

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by old.Laryssa
quote:
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Originally posted by lofff
LOL yes ur v.experienced rvr player /clap (hahaha)

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LMAO - never said so - at least I don't pretend too be one
and don't come with rp counts - would make me LMAO even more.

oh wait, i did not explained cos tho it was too obvious.

Keep defense, yes, mana menta rox, said 12433412post before and in ur quote.
Amg stand offs, rofl, thats plain crap, usually too often crap, stand there and wait till albs have 5x hib numbers or mids attack from behind.
GROUPS WITH NO MEZZER ROFL.- Crowd Control and SPEED is the essence for every rvr group, and both mean bard in hibernia, so ur losing both to b able to use ur dots... seriously thats why i said u have no rvr experience, u dont fucking know what u talk about.



I did not said nothing bout rp counts, i dont pretend to b anything, ive been one of the first "high lvls" running emain and bashing lords my friend, lvl40 when higher lvl in hib was hing-ranger-lvl42, 2nd hib tank to rr4 before quitting (first week june) when getting rps was a preety diferent (and so much harder) bussiness, NOT BRAGGING, its just that i have the experience to talk about, u dont.

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


You said this: I found this to be untrue.
Your counter?

Light kills faster.

Mine?

Still kills, albeit a bit slower, and requires a different play style.

If you take a very valid spec, that I've taken a few months to play with, and just dismiss it as if it was totally crap, as the quote implies, then I do take some offence at it, since when I played it, it was very acceptable to me.

You're trying very hard to put me across as a ranting child, but I've taken the time to put a mentalist to 50, equip him with good gear, and I know how to play the class, I've spent months learning about it, and experiencing it, how to react to certain situations, and someone like you comes along, who tries to say all that work was useless, I'm stupid, and there's nothing viable about the spec at all in RvR.

Frankly lofff, you just seem to become more a cunt each day.

You portray yourself as some honourable person, who would take friends over loot, who doesn't take the game too serious, and be one of the 'normal' people...
But we both know this ain't true.

So cut the crap.

tzee again overdoing it all and bullshitting. nothing new. NEXT!

 

[old.Tzeentch]

I think your post speaks for itself.

way 2 suck at life

 

[old.Laryssa]

lol get a grip

u made it as first person on my /ignore

 

[lofff]

haha, u damn child have nothing but BS to giv away. poor saaaad one, plz grow up.


And btw, no weird feelings against u, its just that am tired of ur BS and not eating it nemore, ur free to take it as a personal offence or shut up, think it and pm me in game.

 

[healer_mcheal]

Lofff, cut the crap man, Tz has a valid point with every post in this thread and all your doing is finding lil things to flame about its as if it gets u off or somet,, i mean cmon, have u ever lvl'd a mentalist to 50? Nope didnt think so

 

[healer_mcheal]

PS, u flame lary for the same BS as u did tz, i mean cmon WTF is your problem man? ? ?

 

[lofff]

ur showing lack of reading skillz.

They started the flames... not me... anyways am not really flaming, just turning back their own crap. I dont care and BWS = Whinage.


ps: Sumwhere deep in there u find sum fun too, but for tzee who takes hes menta spec as his own life ofc.

ps2: Now u kinda started flaming me too healer, funny thing. Come on everybody join up

 

[lofff]

And btw healer ur late on this thread, most of stuff u say/ask is alrdy said/answered so read the full thread or crawl back to ur hole, k thx.

 

[old.Laryssa]

it's not really worth to argue about some numbers in a game
cya in HIbernia

:wub:

 

[old.lewstherin]

wah wah wah they started momie help me!

wtf is this? stop the personal flames already. Especially you lofff u act very unfriendly atm. Imo u really dont have much to say since u dont play a menta. But thats just my opinion.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Lofff, what the hell are you on?
Really think you need to take a step back and look at what you're posting here...

 

[lofff]

ehm, well

lost the count of post there

Ive been always bit overreactive, but go see my first post, its just an opinion, then see laryssa and tzee answer to it... flaming/lauging/no respect .... not nice.

Also tzee has been trying to turn that mentalspec discussion in sum personal offence against me with crap like this:

Frankly lofff, you just seem to become more a cunt each day.

You portray yourself as some honourable person, who would take friends over loot, who doesn't take the game too serious, and be one of the 'normal' people...
But we both know this ain't true.

So cut the crap.

So yes i kinda overreacted and will have been much better to answer kindly instead of flaming back. This one was my bad, but at least i admit it and apologize when i think its needed.


Laryssa:

it's not really worth to argue about some numbers in a game

Agreed.





/me out of the thread.