mending healers

[sorry]

I seriously see way to few mending healers, though I don't know if that has changed now with the latest patch with the spread heal. Too few healers all in all really
But, my point is I am very surprised how good a mending healer really is. cc is very important, but a good healer should have a respectfull amount of mending Before I was thinking of going for only 22 mending or was it 21.. not important.. I respecced just to test out the spread heal, which is very good btw, but I was quite surprised of how well my healer heals now. And I put one point into Wild Healing and the result was this:
http://hinux.hin.no/~vegareng/daoc/crit_heal.jpg
That was with a lvl 38 healer, with 31 mending. Looking forward to see how well Mate will do at lvl 50 with 39 mending

 

[old.Leel]

I respeced to 37 aug, 39 mend yesterday, and I love it already.
The 39 spread heal has a fixed power cost of 95 and I healed group members for 1600+ with it in one cast on yesterday's legion raid. The better instas ain't too shabby either And of course, I get second tier resist buffs which is something midgard also needs. Those body/spirit/energy resist buffs are almost non existant in midgard due to everyone gimping aug for pac. Also get yellow celerity buff which doesn't suck either

 

[Forau]

One of the best specs for healers atm includes spread heal. 20 aug, 32 mend, 38 pac is imo a very "point-efficient" spec giving you spread heal, 550+ single target, 75% single boon and almost the same insta CC/manaregen of a pac-healer.. also 35% hastebuffs using celerity1. Just wish more healers would understand that all those points into pac go better elsewhere. oh well

 

[Xandax]

Currently run with 30 mending with my char can't decide between two specs.
Spread heal is expensive - but can really keep the group alive very nicely.
Spread heal at 30 mend. can heal up to 1500ish and this is extreemly nice in various situations in RvR.
And my specced heal at 3sec. cast time (unmodified) heals for 431 where as the baseline 2sec spell I also use heals for 200ish.
This is a lot of healing power Mending is a very nice spec line for a healer.

Of course we need CC'ers also (thoese 48Pac'ers) for the insta mezzing/stunning - but when CC is done, mending keeps people alive.

Although my healer is relative lowlevel for RvR (41.7 atm) - I have managed to keep a FG of 50s alive for a long time with my healing.
Only main annoyance from speccing this way, is when spell casters complain about the lowish power regen.

 

[soth-zorena]

http://home.aland.net/ma20013-p1/sshot026.jpg

^^ pac healers can't heal....

 

[Archeon]

I'm working on a 46, 28, 4 MAP spec.

And it works quite nicely, but to be honest i gave up on spread heals about 2 battles after i tried using it. In my opinion my group and baseline ST are far more efficient, much more entertaining and above all far less mana consuptive than the 'i'm a lazy little bugger with more important things to do so i'l stick to a caster and penny wedge this button down while i go afk and paint my nails' button.

Not meaning to rag on any of the people that use spread heals, just the way i feel about them thats all.

 

[Moody]

Spread heals are very handy tho. Take the battle of Nottmoor of a few days ago. My group consisted of 5 wizards, a minstrel and me. The wizards were spread out over the wall of the entire keep. I stayed down to avoid getting dotted and thus not able to heal. From down in the courtyard, you will almost always get the "target is invisible" message if you try to use a direct heal even if you (from your player point of view) can see em. Spread heals do not require LoS. On top of that, often only a few of the group get hit (and hit hard ) this means that using a normal group heal, is wasted on people that are not hurt, and heals the ones that are hit (especially casters who are hit for a huge amount) not entirely.

In situations when member 1, 4 and 5 are hit and the rest not, just try to find where they are to get em in sight and direct heal em. You can't. Especially not when the keep is inhabited by 50 others meaning you cant move up the stairs anyway because of the lag

The open field is another matter of course, but still, why not using the tools your char provides you if it can make your job that bit easier. Life of a healer is difficult enough. (Remembers the guy slagging him of for not curing disease with the argument "Dude if you can't cure me, then why are you healing me?")

 

[Vell]

My current spec is 29 pac (for insta stun and mezz), 40 mending (for uber spread heal and 100% res - very useful), and whatever aug that leaves me with....enough for celerity anyway, but not resist buffs.

I have to say, that the spread heals are uber. So so so uber. Healing my group for around 2k damage in around 2.5secs casting time is so unbelievably powerful, I can't stress enough how good this spell is. Also, if you are going for 39 mend, I would seriously consider putting 1 more level in and taking it to 40 for the last res. 100% res means you can res in the middle of a fight and the person can just wade back in, no need to worry for him about dying again quickly.

Celerity is an absolutely wicked spell, making your entire group hit so much quicker really is good. And the insta mezz and stun, even if they are single target and not AE, are also very useful to have.

If I ever get a dragon stone, I would consider respeccing to minimum pac and buff aug up a bit more, to get better celerity and resist buffs....I'm not sure tbh.

But seriously, Healers is one of the only classes in the game where you cannot gimp yourself. All three lines are worth speccing in, it doesn't matter which you choose, you will still be a good character.

 

[old.Leel]

I was thinking about going 40 mend for best rez, but that means I have to gimp my aug by one point and won't get the second tier energy resist buff which is quite handy. Hibbie pbaoe and ae dot and sorc mez are all energy.

 

[shilak]

I respecced to 19 Aug, 33 Mend, 38 Pac and I love it. 1st spread heal is more than enough for most fights, the single heal at 33 is much more power efficient than the larger heal and I get to keep decent CC and PoM. The Aug/Mend specs are nice also, but you must have a Pac spec healer in group at the same time or you have very poor CC. Full Pac spec is nice and still very useful in any group, even with the new SC armours.

I reckon ppl should go with either a spec similar to mine or full Pac if they tend to be the only healer in the group. Aug/Mend should only really be considered if you group with a Pac healer all the time in RvR.

 

[old.Leel]

Well, I wasn't satisfied with my 38 pac, it just doesn't hold up anymore against the new resists and stuff. And yeah, I need another pac healer in my group, or most often, the other group in our 2fg will have one. So not a big problem imo.

 

[sorry]

at lvl 50 I found out I would be 39 mend, 37 aug and 4 pac =)
That doesn't make me the best single healer in a grp that roams around, but I don't intend to use my healer to make a uber guild grp. My healer is an alt that I use to help others with their lvling or go to raids I guess. While on keep raids/defence I will anyways be really great to have, since cc isn't used all that much there.. It is quite a discussion about how a healer should specc to be great, but it varies so much. So far I am very happy with being a mend/aug healer, even though I can't provide casters with poc/pom. It helps the tanks alot atleast and the resistance buffs helps everybody

 

[old.Rusfighter]

^^ if U make to gimp your healer just spec him 50 mend

 

[Xandax]

Originally posted by sorry
at lvl 50 I found out I would be 39 mend, 37 aug and 4 pac =)
That doesn't make me the best single healer in a grp that roams around, but I don't intend to use my healer to make a uber guild grp. My healer is an alt that I use to help others with their lvling or go to raids I guess. While on keep raids/defence I will anyways be really great to have, since cc isn't used all that much there.. It is quite a discussion about how a healer should specc to be great, but it varies so much. So far I am very happy with being a mend/aug healer, even though I can't provide casters with poc/pom. It helps the tanks alot atleast and the resistance buffs helps everybody

Is pretty much same reasoning behind my healer.
His main place of enjoyment is for various raids where a healer usually is more needed then a SB.
Same goes for some keep raids when I am tired of my SB and there spread heals are really great. As somebody esle stated, if 2-3 people are getting hit bad, spread heal is the answer - and this often happens at keep defences/raids.

 

[soth-zorena]

Originally posted by old.Rusfighter
^^ if U make to gimp your healer just spec him 50 mend

Actually quite true.. if you have 50 mending or 50 aug or 50 pac you probably miss out something very important from another line.

 

[sorry]

aye, I agreed Zorena
If I had plans for playing my Healer more seriously, I wouldn't specced like I am now, but why I started this post was that I sat with the impression that mending wasn't so important and have thoght that there were no point in going above 22 mending. Untill I tried it out myself
If I had a rvr plan for my healer I think I would go for the template shilak mentioned, 19 Aug, 33 Mend, 38 Pac :great:

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by old.Rusfighter
^^ if U make to gimp your healer just spec him 50 mend

Done 50 mend on the test server when we had the very first respec, good god. Contradictory to what people think the final heal does not do 1000k+ HP (Granted it crits for 1025) and it chews mana with extreme predujice. At lvl 50 with 208 Pie it drained 1/5 of my bar per cast. Infact the only good thing about that bitch is the cast time!

Grr, i'm very resentful of the fact that Mythic make some lines not worth speccing to 50 in. If your going to lose an aspect of your class to become excellent at one area then it should be made worth the sacrafice (E.g. the 11sec AE stun at 50 pac)


BAHHHHH!!! (not a sheep impression)

 

[Elixir]

nice heal tho

 

[scartooth]

Whats the point anyway when its gettin harder to find a group to lvl up a healer ( and because sb's etc found it hard to group doesnt make it OK for anyone to find it hard to group) At least melees can get in group with the buttbots alt and get some exp and companionship.
I spent over 1.5 hours in DF today trying to get a group with my healer but with all the buttbots runing around like stalking tards , its impossible
And once they at 50 they'll start bemoaning the lack of healers in RvR :/

(btw slightly of topic but when a healer/shaman gives you a life saving heal or rezzes and buffs then stuns a few mobs for you to killl etc can you at least TRY to act polite and maybe say T H A N K S ? )

 

[Armalite]

My healer, witch im very happy with:

46 Mending for last group heal
13 Aug for first damage shield (so i can solo at least blues PvE)
25 Pac For 3rd pom, but you get a decent aoe mezz/stun too.


Ubah resses, if a fellah go down, he's up and fighting right after res. Ubah heal, as long as you got mana, and are not being hit (until i get MoC), the party survives.

 

[old.Demeter]

we need more Mend healers in midgard !

PAC are almost useless against LA grps anyway

lately 90% time in grps i RvR with 1 Mend/Aug and 1 PAC healer

and anytime we can replace PAC healer, while mend healer is unique....


give Mend healers Midbard, Borc Borc Borc !

16,You cast a Ancestor's Favor Spell!
16,You critical heal for an additional 84 hit points!
16,You heal Bouh for 163 hit points.
16,Bouh is fully healed.
16,You heal Ronir for 630 hit points.
16,Ronir is fully healed.
16,You heal Donna for 439 hit points.
16,Donna is fully healed.
16,You heal Laska for 221 hit points.
16,Laska is fully healed.
16,You heal Wiiwii for 912 hit points.
16,You heal Regina for 154 hit points.
16,Regina is fully healed.
16,You heal yourself for 157 hit points.
16,You are fully healed.

 

[sorry]

Got to test my new specc at H today and the spread heal was quite the aggro taker But proved very, very helfull I must say =) I am going to continue the path towards 39 mend, 37 aug and 4 pac @ lvl 50 for sure!

 

[old.Demeter]

2 Healers or 1 Healer ?

if u have 2 healers then its simple:
1st - 39 Mend 37 Aug 4 PAC
2nd - 48 PAC, 21+ Mend

the job of Mend healer doesnt end on heals ! It does
1) Celerity
2) Healing
3) AOE Amnesia with radius 335 and range 2300, 2 sec cast
(it really nullifies casters attment to cast anything
4) Cure Mezz
5) Bashing some silly bards/mages when OOM

Usefull RAs:

MCL
Purge
MoC
+
Wild Healing
Mastery of Healing
+
Serenity


but if u have only 1 Healer in group then 38 PAC/30 mend is your choice

 

[domin8or]

Best spec choice imo is 50 aug, 20 mend and rest in pac

 

[old.Sko]

healer has 1.0 spec points. remember ?

 

[old.Leel]

Yep, so with domin8er's spec, you end up with 3 pac I think, not even first pom:-P

And another thing, my 39 mend, 37 aug, 4 pac healer has a self str/con buff with 55 delve value, and in effect boosted my str/con by 70. Got me to 250 str self buffed and I was able to carry 1500 ironwood all by myself for relic doors)

 

[old.Demeter]

to continue the topic

while mend/aug healer has certain whinner spec (/bow Leel)

mend/pac or balance have a lot of alternatives:

for example (Mend/Aug/Pac)

32/20/38 (1st spread heal, self insta 75%, grp insta 50%, 2 150rad PAC AOE insta, ceerity 1) <-- aka Balanced Healer

35/15/38 (1st spread heal, 2 insta 75%, 2 150rad PAC AOE insta)
39/9/36 (1st spread heal, 2 insta 75%, 1 150rad PAC AOE insta)
30/8/44 (1st spread heal, 2 insta 50%, 2 150rad PAC AOE insta, castable mezz/stun of 48 PAC healer)

 

[domin8or]

Originally posted by old.Leel
Yep, so with domin8er's spec, you end up with 3 pac I think, not even first pom :-P

 

[Risinn]

There are plenty of options on how to spec a good mend healer.

MAP 41/19/29 - I would think is pretty good. 100% rezz, good heals and insta heals along with second heal neediest. First Celerity and single insta stun and mezz.

Or 40/9/35 would give up Celerity for POC and better aoe stun/mezz

 

[old.Sko]

Problem with 41 greater heal is that it takes almost same power as 2nd spread and heals _one_ person for almost same hp. So not worth it. The only thing to discuss here is whether to go for last rez, or not. Some swear by rez, some by extra 8% energy resist.