mellee ranger template help

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i have got a shar ranger soon to be lvl 50 spec will be 31 pf ,33 stl, 39 blades,13 bow ,47 cd

curant arti i have are gov, mad scalers,malice ,battler,golm,som,hermes helm

dont have to use them all but as i am fairly new to hib i am struggling to get a template which i hope to have running before the cluster

thx in adavance for any input...and looking forward to meeting you all soon:)
:cheers:

btw i will be botted is path to high?
 

Adlatus Hellbringer

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aye pf is too high imo... go 39 blades or pierce and 50 cd. 35 stealth and rest in pf... Im working on a template myself will post wen rdy :)
 

Aiteal

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ant said:
btw i will be botted is path to high?

Take a look at the test results on critshot
they showed that 44Cd 36 PF gives better dmg than 50CD low PF

I'm 36PF myself, get about an extra 40dmg from the dmg add
and the spec AF buff boosts me to about 760AF in total
 

sphir

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sure about that?

because i wanted 50cd 37pierce 36stealth 23path 10bow @ rr4 on mine, but if what your saying is true id go 44cd and boost pf more :p
 

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sphir said:
sure about that?

because i wanted 50cd 37pierce 36stealth 23path 10bow @ rr4 on mine, but if what your saying is true id go 44cd and boost pf more :p

I think 12 is as low as your bow will go

I'll try to find the link to the test results
but the test results said that 36PF was the sweet spot
speccing 50CD didnt make up for the 7.3DPS that 36PF 44CD gives you in either style damage or offhand swings
 

sphir

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i dont care about the bow tbh, and why 12 bow, so i can get critshot3? :p
 

Aiteal

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sphir said:
i dont care about the bow tbh, and why 12 bow, so i can get critshot3? :p

If you autotrain bow, it will be at 12 at lvl50
If you do a full respec, 12 points are automatically added to bow, it won't go any lower than that
 

sphir

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so it will take the points out of my total points, and spec 12 into bow anyhow? because i havent autotrained afaik, so you allways have to add 12 bow into your spec or?
 

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Bow minimum HAS to be 12.

I'm specced 50 cd, 34 blade, 31 pf, 32 stealth, 14 bow (20 autotrain points.)
It's for RR6 though, you could just lower cd to 44 and bow to 12 and raise blade to 39 and stealth to 34 or so.

My template goes something like....


Config Report

Stats
Str: 100Int: 0Hits: 363
Con: 87 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 63 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0
Resists
Body: 25 Energy: 6 Crush: 27 (2)
Cold: 25 Matter: 24 Thrust: 24
Heat: 24 Spirit: 18 (5) Slash: 28 (3)
Skills
11 Stealth

11 Celtic Dual

7 Piercing

11 Blades

Focus
Cap Increases
160 Hits

25 Strength

13 Constitution

Other Bonuses
8 Melee Damage

11 Melee Combat Speed

9 Fatigue

6 Style Damage

35 AF

Piece Listing
Chest

Name: Crystalized Vest of Reveries
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 22 Constitution
Effect 3: 22 Dexterity
Effect 4: 3 Celtic Dual
Effect 5: 2 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 6: 4 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.33

Arms
Name: Crystalized Smoldering Ash Sleeves
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Dexterity
Effect 2: 22 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 6 Crush
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Effect 6: 2 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 73.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Stealth - 99 Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 4 Blades - 99 Flawed Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Utility: 74.67

Legs
Name: Legs of the Subjugator
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 19 Dexterity
Effect 4: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 5: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 37.67

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Cold - 99 Imperfect Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 13 Constitution - 99 Imperfect Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 76 Hits - 99 Perfect Blood Essence
Gem 4: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Utility: 61.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Strength - 99 Rough Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 4 Stealth - 99 Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 11 Thrust - 99 Faceted Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Utility: 61.33

Right Hand
Name: Bane of Battler
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 AF
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 6 Crush
Effect 6: 6 Thrust
Effect 7: 3 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 8: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Left Hand
Name: Malice Axe
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Style Damage
Effect 7: 5 Fatigue
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 20.00

Neck
Name: Necklace of Cyclopean Stature
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 120 Hits
Effect 2: 1 Crush
Effect 3: 1 Slash
Effect 4: 1 Thrust
Effect 5: 80 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mists
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 4 Fatigue
Effect 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Harpy feather charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Heat
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Matter
Effect 4: 6 Body
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Corrupt Tincture of Terkari
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 2 Melee Damage
Effect 2: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 48 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Heat
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 24.00

Right Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Matter
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Energy
Effect 4: 6 Body
Effect 5: 6 Spirit
Effect 6: 60 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Left Ring
Name: Band of Shadows
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Slash
Effect 2: 6 Crush
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 7 Body
Effect 5: 7 Spirit
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00
Right Wrist

Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Heat
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 6 Matter
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Heat
Effect 3: 6 Matter
Effect 4: 6 Crush
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: 15 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 39.75

I'm a celt with 10 str, 10 dex, 10 con as starting points I think.

The template is just an old txt. file I found, not sure it's the latest version so if you want to double check on item stats and config report feel free im sure there's a flaw somewhere. But you get the general picture im sure.
Wielding a matter leggie on back to counter high PD people in case your slashers comes short.
 

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about the autotrain, no it wont take it out of your lvl 50 points pool, you will just have 12 bow as "baseline" you can not respec those points no matter how much people think single line respecs effect you or whatever.

The spec i am going for on my ranger is:

35 stealth
50 blades
44 CD
9 PF
15 Bow (including 12 auto trained)

thats at RR5, will defo need purge 3 as a blades ranger as str/con debuffs will hurt a lot!
 

sphir

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i want this spec @ rr5

35stealth
36pierce
36pathfinding
44celtic
7bow

but people are telling me that i cant, because it will spec 12 bow automaticly without autotrain sooo i cant decide my own spec, but what raven said is true, it wont take the points out from my total, it will just be 12 and still have full amount of spec points..
 

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Raven said:
about the autotrain, no it wont take it out of your lvl 50 points pool, you will just have 12 bow as "baseline" you can not respec those points no matter how much people think single line respecs effect you or whatever.

That's wrong from what I experienced. It will take the points out of your lvl 50 total pool :(

At least this is what I experienced when we got the free /respec all and I used it.
 

sphir

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oh well i guess my spec will be something like

34stealth
35pierce
36pathfinding
44celtic
12bow
 

Solari

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About the 12 bow issue, here's an example.

Your lvl 50 ranger has NOT been autotrained and has a total of 2979 Skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2909 points left to play with.

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Your level 50 ranger HAS been autotrained and has a total of 3056 skill points:

- It will train your baseline bow to 12, no matter what respec stone you use.
- It will use up points from your lvl 50 pool.

Your ranger will have 2979 points left to play with.

Hope it makes sence.
 

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My new spec
44cd, 35 pierce, 35 stealth, 36pf 11bow

havent tested it yet cause no time to play :p

and to the thread start i wouldnt go blade's :(
 

sphir

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god, if you can have 11 bow then what everyone else said was a lie, do you have that spec now with 11 bow or do you just want to spec it? because i cant find out the truth, but i guess ill see when i respec, so i can view total spec points :p
 

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I Have 11bow

There For U Can Have 11bow!
 

Neffneff

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Mxn said:
I Have 11bow

There For U Can Have 11bow!

haha.

my understanding of respec system was:

About the 12 bow issue, here's an example.

Your lvl 50 ranger has NOT been autotrained and has a total of 2979 Skill points:

- It will count all the points out of your specs and put them into the spec point pool
- It will not train your bow at all as you have the non auto trained lvl of points..

Your ranger will have 2979 points left to play with.

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Your level 50 ranger HAS been autotrained and has a total of 3056 skill points:

- It will count all the points out of your specs and put them into the spec point pool
- It will take any points OVER 2979 skills points(non auto trained lvl) and automatically place them back into bow.
- this will give you 12 bow (or how ever many bow you autotrained

Your ranger will have 2979 points left to play with.

no matter what im pretty sure it still gives you 2979 points to play with.

though ofc having never had a char that didnt autotrain except the wifes ranger (which is yet to respec) i dont know for sure.
 

sphir

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utter bs with this 12 bow, what neff wrote is the true thing, just respecced and i have 1 in every single skill, and 2979 points to use, so ty elc & neff :)
 

Galid

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mines:

31 sth 33 blades 50 cd 35 bow 9 pf

i've tried em all. and the points u get in PF are nice but 50 CD is a must if u wanna melee imo.

i'm rr8 so 33+18 blades u Need 51 modified 50 just wont cut it...
 

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I don't know if it only gives you 12 bow if you autotrain, however I'm 100000% sure that the 4 times I've respecced my ranger it has ALWAYS given me 12 bow, and it has subtracted the points from my pool giving me less points. However I did not autotrain all the way.
 

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