Melee Scout temp

gohan

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yep after aquiring my old melee scout after 6 years his template was slightly outdated, so i'm now running this leggie wep temp, have all 4 leggies + a thruster with the same base stats (lose 3% melee and 10AF if i have to use physical dam) just incase some1 is running all sists 50% or is a hero/warrior ect

toy wise it has SoM and RoD for proc/SL also has dragon ring and 2 bracers so 3 seperate timers for 10% melee sists

has ML10 legs and chest +dragon shield for heal/HoT procs, running 50 shield (nerf my slam will you? phear my brutalise) 47 thrust 33 stealth (RR7)

also managed to squeez 5% spell peirce in for the leggies (I've heard it works with them anyhow) + 10/9/9 normal melee bonuses

resists could be better, but with stealther temp that need 4 stats +max hits AF 3 skills ect some sists always get a bit nerfed, with racials nothing is below 19%

personaly i think it's quite solid, with 2400 buffed HP near 800AF 50 +17 shield SoM and legwep ab procs going off 10% all resists and all the heal procs should be fine defensively, and with capped str/dex toa bonuses and a bit of SP should do dice dam aswell


thoughts?

(havent posted item stats / SC as my copy of korts means i have to do most of it manually or it puts evert single bit on a sepearte line, like:
STR:
108 /
98
(+23), so I just lited items)

Config Report


Stats

STR: 108 / 98 (+23)
CON: 89 / 88 (+13)
DEX: 101 / 101 (+28)
QUI: 71 / 85 (+10)
Hits: 387 / 380 (+180)
AF: 56 / 50

Resists
Body: 26 / 26
Energy: 21 / 26
Crush: 26 / 26 (+2) (28)
Cold: 20 / 26
Matter: 21 / 26
Slash: 26 / 26 (+3) (29)
Heat: 21 / 26
Spirit: 14 / 26 (+5) (19)
Thrust: 26 / 26


Skills
15 / 11 All Melee Weapon Skills
11 / 11 Shield
11 / 11 Stealth
15 / 11 Thrust


Other Bonuses
9 / 10 Melee Combat Speed
9 / 10 Melee Damage
5 / 10 Spell Piercing
10 / 10 Style Damage

ML10 vest
ML10 legs
crafter Arms Head Gloves Boots
LW's/ Crafted Piercer
Name: dragon scale buckler

Name: dragonseye strand
Name: SOM
Name: EDS
Name: cenzia BP belt
Name: ring of granite
Name: ring of dance
Name: bracer of arcane vigor
Name: bracer of arcane vigor
 

Bahumat

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thoughts?

(havent posted item stats / SC as my copy of korts means i have to do most of it manually or it puts evert single bit on a sepearte line, like:
STR:
108 /
98
(+23), so I just lited items)

It does that because you're a retard who does not paste it into Notepad first. Also you can view/save the template as either .html or .xml iirc? Use the .xml and open it with notepad.

/hug
 

Soazak

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Just out of curiosity, what does a melee template provide, that many of the hybrid templates floating around on VN do not?

It seems to miss all the benefits of archery (10% dmg/pierce/speed...which I understand you will not really use as melee scout) but doesn't seem to gain anything?

But I guess, the only thing I see wrong with it from a melee point of view is 4x crafted pieces and the spirit/cold resist (spirit being a popular choice for leggies and cold being the leggie of choice v archers for most people).
 

gohan

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Just out of curiosity, what does a melee template provide, that many of the hybrid templates floating around on VN do not?

It seems to miss all the benefits of archery (10% dmg/pierce/speed...which I understand you will not really use as melee scout) but doesn't seem to gain anything?

But I guess, the only thing I see wrong with it from a melee point of view is 4x crafted pieces and the spirit/cold resist (spirit being a popular choice for leggies and cold being the leggie of choice v archers for most people).

price mainly i guess

tho i cut out the archery stats as i saw them as unimportant the temp does have + 6 speed and +2 range anyway so with say champ bow it would be 9/5/3 but as it's 13 bow i'd never really use bow other than maybe to interupt if i was rooted or w/e

this whole temp including SC was only about 45p from scratch (had to buy every single item as scout been retired for 6 years)

also the only way to get 10 SP is to either use AT (shit util like 40 hits 10af usable) or ml10 cloak and i didn't want to tie myself to ml10 wep, guess i could of used ml10 bow but didn't really look into it at the time

may eventaully redo the temp and try and get 10 SP but in all honesty i think the SOM proc is worth more than 5% SP

as for resists i'm hoping that people wont use cold as they would expect me to cap it and spirit it neutrle so my resist would be 29% anyway (14% + 5 racial +10 CL) whereas im thrust waek so even tho that's 36% (26 +10 dragon) it's only 31% also matter weak so technically spirit is higher than matter when u take that into account, so not too worried as i said before stealther temps have always been insanely hard to cap resists on
 

Soazak

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Fair enough :D

If you're ignoring bow completely, it seems to be fine. It has the essentials for solo imo...SOM, capped melee resists, melee resist charge etc.

All I think it lacks is double proc helm/arms, but when you really look at it those are not as great as some people believe imo. It could probably do with Winged Helm, but the utility is shit (tbh not sure if scouts can use it, rangers/hunters do so..)
 

Punishment

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The spec isn't viable anymore, but best of luck with it all the same
 

gohan

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The spec isn't viable anymore, but best of luck with it all the same

since when?


if you just mean since the changes to bow then i've already got a melee scout to RR6 on US that i stopped playing about 2 years ago
 

Punishment

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since when?


if you just mean since the changes to bow then i've already got a melee scout to RR6 on US that i stopped playing about 2 years ago

Nah i mean since the introduction of dd envenoms and dex/con envenoms for assasins since the shield nerf+9 to 5 second hybrid class slam nerf and the removal of pd
 

ESR211

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and to add on to punishments comments, dual wielding classes gain an additional 25% chance to bypass shield now.
 

gohan

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Yea thats what the shield nerf is :D

how very very gay,


still i can't stand sniper archers so i'll just have to be WTF epic i guess

i knew about the 5 sec slam which is why i've gone for brutalise 10 sec after block instead + 8 sec side stun and 6 sec back stun
 

old.Eyez

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If u really wants a melee scout... u will max need 1 piece of SC.. and drop the ml10 items if u are gonna solo anyway.. dragonslayer legs/arms are imo a must have for double procs on a melee solo toon!

On some toons i wil lsay ml10 legs.. ut in your case i will say dragonslayer legs :)

and where is Winged Helm ?!? :lol:
 

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Dunno maybe if you had a greater evasion myth it would work better vs. dual wielders else i doubt you gonna do anything good.

Would need high AoM vs. poisions too i guess.
 

ESR211

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I dono, now with the slam nerfs it seems that scouts are the run away kings.
Rangers just sit there and take it like a man.
And hunters are F***ing dangerous as melee... Ask babybanana.... Hitting like a maintank with his two hander, added dmg/reduced defenses/disease from his pet, and running around with IP3. Hunters have been badass meleers since the begining.
 

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I dono, now with the slam nerfs it seems that scouts are the run away kings.
Rangers just sit there and take it like a man.
And hunters are F***ing dangerous as melee... Ask babybanana.... Hitting like a maintank with his two hander, added dmg/reduced defenses/disease from his pet, and running around with IP3. Hunters have been badass meleers since the begining.

And the pets always put out on those cold nights mmm!
 

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