Melee Ranger template

[Emmet]

this is my first template, giff comments :>
will spec 50 CD, 39 pierce, 35 stealth, 23 PF

Spoiler

Item Utility: 754.7
Build Utility: 764.7
Useable Utility: 758.3
TOA Utility: 307.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 100/99
Constitution: 82/80
Dexterity: 95/93
Quickness: 30/80
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 276/272
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 27/26
Cold: 17/26
Heat: 6/26
Energy: 0/26
Matter: 15/26
Spirit: 22/26+5
Crush: 23/26+2
Thrust: 23/26
Slash: 25/26+3

Skill
Stealth: 11/11
Blades: 2/11
Celtic Dual: 11/11
Piercing: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 24/26
Constitution: 5/26
Dexterity: 18/26
Quickness: 5/26
Hits: 72/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 30/50
Style Damage: 10/10
Melee Damage: 9/10
Melee Combat Speed: 19/10 <--- yes i know, its insane
Fatigue: 5/25

Chest (GoV):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 18
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity: 15
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Melee Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 60.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Dexterity: 7
Constitution: 28
Hits: 76
Celtic Dual: 2
Utility: 52.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Winged Helm):
Imbue: 28.0
Hits: 40
Fatigue: 5
Armour Factor: 10
Dexterity: 15
Spirit: 5%
Strength: 15
Matter: 5%
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 33.0/28 (Quality: 99)
Celtic Dual: 4
Piercing: 5
Hits: 12
Cold: 5%
Utility: 58.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Scalars):
Imbue: 20.0
Hits: 40
Constitution: 15
Quickness: 15
Melee Combat Speed: 3
Melee Damage: 3
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Quickness (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 50.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 32.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Constitution: 7
Stealth: 2
Celtic Dual: 5
Piercing: 4
Utility: 59.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (GS):
Imbue: 32.0
Melee Combat Speed: 4
Strength: 12
Dexterity: 12
Crush: 7%
Slash: 7%
Thrust: 7%
Style Damage: 4
Utility: 58.0
TOA Utility: 40.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Traitors Dagger):
Imbue: 0.0
Armour Factor: 10
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 0.0
TOA Utility: 65.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paedrian Necky):
Imbue: 45.0
Crush: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Body: 10%
Spirit: 10%
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (SoM):
Imbue: 20.0
Stealth: 3
Strength: 15
Quickness: 15
Armour Factor: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (golm):
Imbue: 18.5
Constitution: 10
Hits: 24
Matter: 4%
Body: 4%
ALL melee weapon skills: 2
Melee Damage: 2
Style Damage: 2
Utility: 38.7
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (Twisted (malamis)):
Imbue: 21.0
Stealth: 3
Dexterity: 24
Melee Combat Speed: 2
Strength (Cap Increase): 8
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 8
Utility: 31.0
TOA Utility: 42.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Band of Shadows):
Imbue: 33.0
Body: 7%
Spirit: 7%
Slash: 6%
Crush: 6%
Thrust: 6%
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Orey eyed stealthy ring):
Imbue: 35.0
Strength: 22
Dexterity: 22
Constitution: 22
Stealth: 3
Utility: 59.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (DS str):
Imbue: 27.5
Strength: 18
Slash: 6%
Cold: 6%
Hits: 44
Strength (Cap Increase): 6
Hits (Cap Increase): 32
Utility: 47.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Ebon Hide):
Imbue: 30.0
Body: 6%
Heat: 6%
Slash: 6%
Cold: 6%
Matter: 6%
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[Solari]

Considered using BMF?

 

[Emmet]

Considered using BMF?

since i dont know what it is, or how to get it, no

edit: found out, and no.. would be too hard getting

 

[xGenocidex]

since i dont know what it is, or how to get it, no

edit: found out, and no.. would be too hard getting

its 4.3 spd pierce wep http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=6610


its very nice ^^ not the easiest to obtain tho

 

[Meradesh]

looks like a kamikaze template, nice offensive stats but weak defense. Melee rangers should focus at defense imo, you will use squall almost all the time, it has a low growth rate so style dmg is not that important. We don't have remedy to avoid enervate, disease and str debuff.

 

[Emmet]

looks like a kamikaze template, nice offensive stats but weak defense. Melee rangers should focus at defense imo, you will use squall almost all the time, it has a low growth rate so style dmg is not that important. We don't have remedy to avoid enervate, disease and str debuff.

all poisons are body dmg, right? so they will have shorter duration with more body resists, but i managed to cap it.. should i try to get even more resists or are you talking about more hits etc?

 

[Solari]

all poisons are body dmg, right? so they will have shorter duration with more body resists, but i managed to cap it.. should i try to get even more resists or are you talking about more hits etc?

Shorter duration is irrelevant, you'll most probably die or kill your opponent in that time.

Do you cap your qui?

I must admit your weapon choice makes it extremely difficult to come up with a "capped" all around temp. Maybe try and swap in Champ mainhander if you are determined to use TD, then it would free up the gem slot and swap golm with EDS.

Having 17 cold / 6 heat is another big mistake, I would estimate that 75% of the leggie users out there run heaters / colders rather than spirit / matter (or energy for that sake) simply because of the current damage tables and the 15% leather vulnerbility. Not everyone knows how to swap weapon on you, and even if they do colders will still pack a punch.
Pierce temp:


Should you rethink using a more expensive template a friend of mine made this. It could be customized for your high qui by swapping the necklace with Necklace of Cyclopean Stature, and craft in resists instead of qui.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 101/100 Int: 0 Hits: 268/280
Con: 77/75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 102/99 Cha: 0
Qui: 68/75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 5 Crush: 28 (2)
Cold: 22 Matter: 28 Thrust: 25
Heat: 23 Spirit: 25 (5) Slash: 27 (3)

Skills

11 Stealth
3 Blades
11 Celtic Dual
11 Piercing

Cap Increases

24 Dex
80 Hits
25 Str

Other Bonuses
4 Spell Duration Bonus
8 Style Damage Bonus
4 Spell Range Bonus
5 Fatigue
10 Melee Speed Bonus
8 Melee Damage Bonus
40 AF Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor (Tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 2 Piercing - 99 uncut Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 11 Thrust Resist - 99 faceted Airy Shielding
Utility: 65.67

Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 15 Strength
Effect 7: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 7 Strength - 99 rough Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 11 Slash Resist - 99 faceted Watery Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
Gem 3: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Slash Resist - 99 rough Watery Shielding
Utility: 57.33

Feet
Name: Shrouded Mist Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 61.00

Right Hand
Name: Broodmother Fang
Level: 50 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Piercing
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

Left Hand
Name: Dochar Ranger Steel
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.67


Neck
Name: Paidrean Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist (stealth)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Lightning Stone
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 5 Body Resist
Effect 5: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 7: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 8: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 9: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Twisted Hair of Malamis
Level: 49 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 24 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 31.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Tempest
Level: 49 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Stealth
Effect 3: 48 Hits
Effect 4: 7 Body Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Left Ring
Name: Leviathan Ring of the Deep
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 21 Dexterity
Effect 4: 20 Hits
Effect 5: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00

Right Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

 

[Emmet]

Shorter duration is irrelevant, you'll most probably die or kill your opponent in that time.

Do you cap your qui?

I must admit your weapon choice makes it extremely difficult to come up with a "capped" all around temp. Maybe try and swap in Champ mainhander if you are determined to use TD, then it would free up the gem slot and swap golm with EDS.

Having 17 cold / 6 heat is another big mistake, I would estimate that 75% of the leggie users out there run heaters / colders rather than spirit / matter (or energy for that sake) simply because of the current damage tables and the 15% leather vulnerbility. Not everyone knows how to swap weapon on you, and even if they do colders will still pack a punch.
Pierce temp:


Should you rethink using a more expensive template a friend of mine made this. It could be customized for your high qui by swapping the necklace with Necklace of Cyclopean Stature, and craft in resists instead of qui.

Spoiler

Config Report

Stats

Str: 101/100 Int: 0 Hits: 268/280
Con: 77/75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 102/99 Cha: 0
Qui: 68/75 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 5 Crush: 28 (2)
Cold: 22 Matter: 28 Thrust: 25
Heat: 23 Spirit: 25 (5) Slash: 27 (3)

Skills

11 Stealth
3 Blades
11 Celtic Dual
11 Piercing

Cap Increases

24 Dex
80 Hits
25 Str

Other Bonuses
4 Spell Duration Bonus
8 Style Damage Bonus
4 Spell Range Bonus
5 Fatigue
10 Melee Speed Bonus
8 Melee Damage Bonus
40 AF Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor (Tank)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 2 Piercing - 99 uncut Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 11 Thrust Resist - 99 faceted Airy Shielding
Utility: 65.67

Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 15 Strength
Effect 7: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 7 Strength - 99 rough Fiery Essence
Gem 4: 11 Slash Resist - 99 faceted Watery Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
Gem 3: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Slash Resist - 99 rough Watery Shielding
Utility: 57.33

Feet
Name: Shrouded Mist Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 61.00

Right Hand
Name: Broodmother Fang
Level: 50 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Piercing
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

Left Hand
Name: Dochar Ranger Steel
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.67


Neck
Name: Paidrean Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist (stealth)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Lightning Stone
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 5 Body Resist
Effect 5: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 7: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 8: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 9: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Twisted Hair of Malamis
Level: 49 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 24 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 31.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Tempest
Level: 49 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Stealth
Effect 3: 48 Hits
Effect 4: 7 Body Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Left Ring
Name: Leviathan Ring of the Deep
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 21 Dexterity
Effect 4: 20 Hits
Effect 5: 7 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 47.00

Right Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

Left Wrist
Name: Zahur's Bracer
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 51.00

isnt zahur bracer really expensive?
im going to try to make a farm grp so i might have a chance of getting BMF
but chances are pretty low atm.. :<
dont have 50p for it :/ theres 2 on housing, 1 for 50p, other for 70p

 

[Emmet]

this one better or worse?

Item Utility: 777.3
Build Utility: 757.3
Useable Utility: 757.3
TOA Utility: 344.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 95/100
Constitution: 83/85
Dexterity: 97/100
Quickness: 30/80
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 240/280
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 16/26
Cold: 18/26
Heat: 20/26
Energy: 5/26
Matter: 12/26
Spirit: 20/26+5
Crush: 25/26+2
Thrust: 24/26
Slash: 22/26+3

Skill
Stealth: 11/11
Celtic Dual: 11/11
Piercing: 8/11
Recurve Bow: 4/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 25/26
Constitution: 10/26
Dexterity: 25/26
Quickness: 5/26
Hits: 80/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 44/50
Style Damage: 10/10
Melee Damage: 13/10
Melee Combat Speed: 8/10
Fatigue: 5/25

Chest (GoV):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 18
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity: 15
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Melee Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 60.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Stealth: 4
Celtic Dual: 3
Piercing: 5
Cold: 2%
Utility: 64.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Winged Helm):
Imbue: 28.0
Hits: 40
Fatigue: 5
Armour Factor: 10
Dexterity: 15
Spirit: 5%
Strength: 15
Matter: 5%
Utility: 50.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Strength: 19
Constitution: 28
Dexterity: 22
Slash: 1%
Utility: 48.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Scalars):
Imbue: 20.0
Hits: 40
Constitution: 15
Quickness: 15
Melee Combat Speed: 3
Melee Damage: 3
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Quickness (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 50.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Constitution: 22
Slash: 7%
Heat: 9%
Cold: 5%
Utility: 56.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Champ weapon):
Imbue: 20.5
Celtic Dual: 4
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 6
Style Damage: 4
Melee Damage: 4
Strength: 7
Dexterity: 9
Utility: 30.7
TOA Utility: 62.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Astral mephitic fang):
Imbue: 25.0
Piercing: 3
Melee Damage: 2
Style Damage: 2
Slash: 7%
Crush: 8%
Strength (Cap Increase): 10
Utility: 45.0
TOA Utility: 40.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paedrian Necky):
Imbue: 45.0
Crush: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Body: 10%
Spirit: 10%
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (SoM):
Imbue: 20.0
Stealth: 3
Strength: 15
Quickness: 15
Armour Factor: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Frenzied jewel of Gelvin):
Imbue: 37.0
Crush: 7%
Slash: 7%
Thrust: 8%
Matter: 7%
Heat: 6%
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (Belt of the forest-stalker):
Imbue: 35.0
Recurve Bow: 4
Stealth: 4
Celtic Dual: 4
Hits: 40
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Utility: 70.0
TOA Utility: 10.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Grimeil's Ring of the Grotesque):
Imbue: 23.0
Cold: 6%
Heat: 5%
Energy: 5%
Hits: 40
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Armour Factor: 12
Utility: 42.0
TOA Utility: 22.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Thunder Shadow Ring):
Imbue: 29.0
Strength: 21
Dexterity: 21
Shadow Mastery: 4
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 4
Utility: 48.0
TOA Utility: 18.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Malairt's bracer of the mad):
Imbue: 23.0
Dexterity: 15
Cold: 5%
Body: 6%
Spirit: 5%
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Armour Factor: 12
Utility: 42.0
TOA Utility: 22.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (CB con):
Imbue: 22.0
Constitution: 18
Thrust: 6%
Hits: 40
Constitution (Cap Increase): 5
Hits (Cap Increase): 40
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

 

[Arilinn]

emmet = e-bayer! lol :kissit:

 

[Solari]

emmet = e-bayer! lol :kissit:

Take your useless random crap somewhere else.

 

[shermi]

Viper 3 vs 36 body, around 80 each tick= around 500 damage
Posion spike using resistence of ancients about 80 each tick= around 500 damage
Weapon skill debuff = about 500 hits
Malice proc= 400 hits more

If you have less 2000 hits assasins can make 1 or 2 garrotes and later run, you gonna die.

No chance for melee rangers, respec and put bow and mos 5 is the best you can make.

Oh yes kill 1 assasin each 15 min with your purge your ip your battler your WH and fz, no more if try solo .

Gl and hf, give love to arrow users!!

 

[kivik]

Viper 3 vs 36 body, around 80 each tick= around 500 damage
Posion spike using resistence of ancients about 80 each tick= around 500 damage
Weapon skill debuff = about 500 hits
Malice proc= 400 hits more

If you have less 2000 hits assasins can make 1 or 2 garrotes and later run, you gonna die.

No chance for melee rangers, respec and put bow and mos 5 is the best you can make.

Oh yes kill 1 assasin each 15 min with your purge your ip your battler your WH and fz, no more if try solo .

Gl and hf, give love to arrow users!!

Think that's very wrong. A proper melee ranger will or atleast should not die to 2 garrotes, PS, poisons and malice debuff.

Specially not if you can counter with all those toys they have access to.

 

[shermi]

Kiwik try to use DoTs and no str debuff with viper 3. And you laugh to all melee rangers, scouts, and hnthers in duels than you want.

 

[Solari]

Kiwik try to use DoTs and no str debuff with viper 3. And you laugh to all melee rangers, scouts, and hnthers in duels than you want.

At this point my friend you are wrong, if you duel a ranger with timers up you can have all the viper you want you'll still go down.

 

[Meradesh]

Specially not if you can counter with all those toys they have access to.

Some of the melee ranger toys:
Battler
Malice
Winged Helm
GoV
Scalars
SoM
Oglidarsh Belt
...
Desperated Bowman
Fz
Phaseshift
IP
Purge

Some of the Sb toys:
Battler
Malice
Phoebus Necklace
GoV
Scalars
SoM
Oglidarsh Belt
...
Remedy
Poison mine
Poison mezz
Envenom
Purge
Bludgeoning

Personally, I'd chose the Sb toys any day of the week

 

[Solari]

Some of the melee ranger toys:
Battler
Malice
Winged Helm
GoV
Scalars
SoM
Oglidarsh Belt
...
Desperated Bowman
Fz
Phaseshift
IP
Purge

Some of the Sb toys:
Battler
Malice
Phoebus Necklace
GoV
Scalars
SoM
Oglidarsh Belt
...
Remedy
Poison mine
Poison mezz
Envenom
Purge
Bludgeoning

Personally, I'd chose the Sb toys any day of the week

Battler, WH/PH, SoM, Malice, OB, you can't use all of them at once as you may very well know. (How many ppl actually run OB lol?)

DB / Phase is the perfect way to counter malice charge which pretty much leaves it out of the game. (Unless the SB knows shit about rangers.)

Remedy? Uhm did you miss out the last patch?...

Mezz poison? Combined with your earlier mentioned viper dot? huh?...

Bludgeon... yea sure rf is crush vulnerable... oh wait! rangers can spec PD so physical damage is reeeeeallly the way to go.. mmkay...

WH/PH... Squall = 0.59 growth rate if I'm not mistaken. Garrote 0.75 Achilles Heel 1.03. I wonder which class will suffer the most from the magic shielding.

PF when assasin envenom is considered? Spec AF buff, Damage add buff which is another 20 damage/swing even at a spec of 23.

RF 19% ABS, Leather 9% ABS.

Admittedly SB's has Evade VII vs rangers Evade III.

FZ... combined with battler... => I win vs leather armour.

IP... 50% selfheal in combat at lvl 2... says it all.

The realm buffs? No haste unless you wanna run an item charge or Healer bot along with the shammy. So the ranger could choose a second char to buff, either a ward for sists + bubble or a verd ani for the ABS buff?

@RR7-8+ with 15 mins out of combat and all the preperations you need I'd like to see you beat a well kitted ranger.

Going off topic sorry, I'll call it a day.

 

[Meradesh]

Battler, WH/PH, SoM, Malice, OB, you can't use all of them at once as you may very well know. (How many ppl actually run OB lol?)

I mean, a sb can get the same artifacts than a melee ranger, all but braggart's bow (nice /use2) and WH, sb's get Phoebus instead, so no adventage from better artifacts.

DB / Phase is the perfect way to counter malice charge which pretty much leaves it out of the game. (Unless the SB knows shit about rangers.)

If a melee ranger use arrogance from malice, an assasin can easily counter it with garrote, anytime snare and move away, but yes phase is nice too, but you can't use it always as it burns a lot of endurance

Remedy? Uhm did you miss out the last patch?...

It's RR5 assasin RA, any assasin who would pick ranger RR5 RA instead of Remedy must be crazy.

Mezz poison? Combined with your earlier mentioned viper dot? huh?...

Mezz poison is to deal with adds, mezz adds and kill your target, viper is 100% effective here, why should a sb mezz adds and then break all the mezzes just to poison em?

Bludgeon... yea sure rf is crush vulnerable... oh wait! rangers can spec PD so physical damage is reeeeeallly the way to go.. mmkay...

That's all about your template, fit a LW at the sb template and high PD rangers will be a cake, he will be able to change from magic dmg to phisical dmg at any time, the only class who can do it changing no weapons.

WH/PH... Squall = 0.59 growth rate if I'm not mistaken. Garrote 0.75 Achilles Heel 1.03. I wonder which class will suffer the most from the magic shielding.

Can't understand this, ... the problem is sb deal almost x2 style dmg than rangers? , pretty sure any ranger would be glad to get 2.0 growth rate style, even suffering the most from magic shielding.

PF when assasin envenom is considered? Spec AF buff, Damage add buff which is another 20 damage/swing even at a spec of 23.

PF is a joke, only 42 PF AF shield gives better protection than AF charges and only a few points, around 8-12. Dmg add just doesn't worth to a melee ranger, the only nice at PF is the speed boost, easily countered by any dmg.

RF 19% ABS, Leather 9% ABS.

Admittedly SB's has Evade VII vs rangers Evade III.

better evade gives deffense and better dmg at a time, I would pick evade 7 instead of reinf. Things would change if finally mythic gives Warlord ML to rangers, 19% abs+battler+warguard would be quite OP at stealth wars.

FZ... combined with battler... => I win vs leather armour.

Snow shower, back style at CD line has a very poor growth rate, it's like a taunt, it's not a deadly style like ragnarok, and if ranger uses battler so can do the Fz'd sb

IP... 50% selfheal in combat at lvl 2... says it all.

Agree, that's the only clear adventage from rangers, but overall I see a sb far better than a ranger at melee.

The realm buffs? No haste unless you wanna run an item charge or Healer bot along with the shammy. So the ranger could choose a second char to buff, either a ward for sists + bubble or a verd ani for the ABS buff?

Got a melee ranger and I use AF charges, can't see a problem with AF charges, it's only 1 minut to use another items, and about haste there are crafted haste potions with only 5 seconds delay to use another item, up to 15% haste.

Going off topic sorry, I'll call it a day.

Me too, sorry Emmet, but what race is your ranger? thrust dmg is a hard way to go, as sb's and infiltrators, our harders enemies are 10% resistant to thrust.

 

[shermi]

/clap everhate, my master .

And now plz stop cry about melee rangers .

 

[Emmet]

thx for the feedback everyone, made a new temp, barely any artis so no good charges.. but nice stats, posted below

Item Utility: 834.3
Build Utility: 834.3
Useable Utility: 825.7
TOA Utility: 248.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 102/101
Constitution: 83/81
Dexterity: 93/92
Quickness: 75/75
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 216/200
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 27/26
Cold: 26/26
Heat: 26/26
Energy: 5/26
Matter: 17/26
Spirit: 21/26+5
Crush: 21/26+2
Thrust: 21/26
Slash: 26/26+3

Skill
Stealth: 11/11
Celtic Dual: 11/11
Piercing: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 28/26
Constitution: 6/26
Dexterity: 17/26

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 10/50
Style Damage: 12/10
Melee Damage: 8/10
Melee Combat Speed: 11/10

Ranged
Item Utility: 745.7
Build Utility: 745.7
Useable Utility: 738.3
TOA Utility: 165.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 83/98
Constitution: 83/81
Dexterity: 72/86
Quickness: 75/75
Intelligence: 0/75
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 216/200
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 27/26
Cold: 26/26
Heat: 26/26
Energy: 5/26
Matter: 17/26
Spirit: 21/26+5
Crush: 14/26+2
Thrust: 14/26
Slash: 19/26+3

Skill
Stealth: 11/11
Celtic Dual: 7/11
Piercing: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 23/26
Constitution: 6/26
Dexterity: 11/26

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 10/50
Style Damage: 4/10
Melee Damage: 4/10
Melee Combat Speed: 7/10

Chest (GoV):
Imbue: 22.0
Hits: 40
Strength: 18
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity: 15
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 5
Melee Damage: 4
Style Damage: 4
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 60.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Arms (Crafted):
Imbue: 32.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Piercing: 3
Stealth: 3
Constitution: 25
Quickness: 16
Utility: 57.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Head (Crafted):
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Piercing: 5
Constitution: 16
Dexterity: 22
Hits: 36
Utility: 59.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Legs (Crafted):
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Piercing: 3
Stealth: 5
Quickness: 19
Slash: 3%
Utility: 58.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Hands (Crafted):
Imbue: 36.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Celtic Dual: 4
Dexterity: 13
Quickness: 25
Hits: 60
Utility: 60.3
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Feet (Crafted):
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
Celtic Dual: 3
Cold: 9%
Strength: 13
Heat: 9%
Utility: 59.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (GS):
Imbue: 32.0
Strength: 12
Dexterity: 12
Melee Combat Speed: 4
Crush: 7%
Slash: 7%
Thrust: 7%
Style Damage: 4
Utility: 58.0
TOA Utility: 40.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Hand (Champ weapon):
Imbue: 20.5
Celtic Dual: 4
Strength (Cap Increase): 5
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 6
Style Damage: 4
Melee Damage: 4
Strength: 7
Dexterity: 9
Utility: 30.7
TOA Utility: 62.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paedrian):
Imbue: 45.0
Crush: 10%
Body: 10%
Spirit: 10%
Thrust: 10%
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Cloak (SoM):
Imbue: 20.0
Stealth: 3
Strength: 15
Quickness: 15
Armour Factor: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 35.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Eerie darkness):
Imbue: 37.0
Crush: 4%
Thrust: 4%
Slash: 4%
Body: 5%
Cold: 5%
Heat: 5%
Energy: 5%
Matter: 5%
Spirit: 5%
Utility: 84.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Belt (Plaited):
Imbue: 22.5
Dexterity: 22
Strength: 22
Dexterity (Cap Increase): 6
Strength (Cap Increase): 8
Melee Combat Speed: 2
Utility: 29.3
TOA Utility: 38.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (ring of brotherhood):
Imbue: 22.0
Constitution: 18
Hits: 40
Strength: 15
Constitution (Cap Increase): 6
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 12.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Ring of the heavens):
Imbue: 26.0
Constitution: 24
Hits: 40
Spirit: 6%
Strength (Cap Increase): 10
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 20.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Ebon hide):
Imbue: 30.0
Body: 6%
Matter: 6%
Cold: 6%
Slash: 6%
Heat: 6%
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Ebon hide):
Imbue: 30.0
Body: 6%
Matter: 6%
Cold: 6%
Slash: 6%
Heat: 6%
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
PvE Utility: 0.0


cost, about 30ish plats.. not that much imo, also, i dont like that much charges takes place on my qb and getting pissed when they are down etc.. like WH, only 5 min timer, and i keep thinkiing "damn.. that charge could have saved me.. i hate WH" or something

 

[Meradesh]

A melee ranger succes becouse of OP charges, think it twice, try to fight assasins without OP charges will be a painfull way.

 

[Solari]

If a melee ranger use arrogance from malice, an assasin can easily counter it with garrote, anytime snare and move away, but yes phase is nice too, but you can't use it always as it burns a lot of endurance

End pots? SW? And your forgetting that most rangers has something called a bow, eg. moving from the target is either gonna break the fight or you'll be forced back into melee range unless your arrow immune.

It's RR5 assasin RA, any assasin who would pick ranger RR5 RA instead of Remedy must be crazy.

My comment wasn't which RA was the best, it was in a designed ranger vs. SB fight in which your a fool to use remedy.

Mezz poison is to deal with adds, mezz adds and kill your target, viper is 100% effective here, why should a sb mezz adds and then break all the mezzes just to poison em?

Same as above, and your comment suddenly negates the previous advantage of poisonspike.

That's all about your template, fit a LW at the sb template and high PD rangers will be a cake, he will be able to change from magic dmg to phisical dmg at any time, the only class who can do it changing no weapons.

However you have acces to diffrent class specific items, and the SB has more skills to cap eg (Stealth, Weapon, CS, LA, Enven) vs. (rangers Stealth, Weapon, CD, and questionable bow.) Leaving room for a better utillity temp for the ranger. And putting in a legendary? Sure, however that will reduce your template utillity, less ToA bonuses aswell. And you lose out on any effective procs apart from the leggie dd + debuff. And if you want to run 2 leggies you lose either Malice or Battler. In case you decide only 1 legendary you will still suffer from the high Physical resists. (CL reists, buffed resists, AoM also negates the leggie advantage.) All this is in a ranger vs sb scenario, not in how they compete with other classes because that means a close walkthrough on pretty much every class out there.

Can't understand this, ... the problem is sb deal almost x2 style dmg than rangers? , pretty sure any ranger would be glad to get 2.0 growth rate style, even suffering the most from magic shielding.

Where did you learn to calculate? 1.03 + 0.75 / 2 = 0.89.
Not twice which should be 0.59 * 2 = 1,18.
Diffrence is 0.89 - 0.59 = 0.3 Where your asumption is 1.18 - 0.89 = 0.29 wrong.
The diffrent growth rates means that some of the SB class strenght lies in it's higher style damage which is negated on a larger scale by the magic shielding.

PF is a joke, only 42 PF AF shield gives better protection than AF charges and only a few points, around 8-12. Dmg add just doesn't worth to a melee ranger, the only nice at PF is the speed boost, easily countered by any dmg.

PF however can not be countered by any form of purge ect. like envenom can. The lvl 21 DA on my 247 qui, 4.1 speed mainhand 3.7 speed offhand ranger adds about 20. damage with a minor 4.7 of 7.6 at the most used high pf spec of 36.

better evade gives deffense and better dmg at a time, I would pick evade 7 instead of reinf. Things would change if finally mythic gives Warlord ML to rangers, 19% abs+battler+warguard would be quite OP at stealth wars.

1) RF has no 15% disavantage to legendaries which is a huge flaw.
2) I do admit that a higher evade would be nice, however with about 320+ dex + evade III you don't do that badly. On this point your also forgetting that if you get stunned / zephyred ect. you will not be able to evade thus your character will rechive much more damage.

Snow shower, back style at CD line has a very poor growth rate, it's like a taunt, it's not a deadly style like ragnarok, and if ranger uses battler so can do the Fz'd sb

The point of zephyr is not to land some uberhard growthrate styles but to bypass any defence your opponent might have. With a swingspeed of 1.6 or so will allow you 8 hits, where the last should be an icestorm for an additional 5 seconds of beating. Knowing that you do not blow zephyr straight off an icestorm / malice / battler charge or whatever could have been used and caused the SB to blow purge earlier.

Agree, that's the only clear adventage from rangers, but overall I see a sb far better than a ranger at melee.

Proove me a point in which there is no counter.

Got a melee ranger and I use AF charges, can't see a problem with AF charges, it's only 1 minut to use another items, and about haste there are crafted haste potions with only 5 seconds delay to use another item, up to 15% haste.

I brougt it up which was maybe a mistake, this is not about the classes but relying on other types of character to aid you. However this would require the SB to now pop a haste charge, an AF charge, SoM, PH and then 1½ in order to use whatever charge you wish from the start of the combat. Those 10 mins will quickly pass.

A melee ranger succes becouse of OP charges, think it twice, try to fight assasins without OP charges will be a painfull way.

Havn't you just been trying to proove SB's has the same toys? Sure you have to spend points in timers, but it's part of the class' style and it costs shitloads of realm skill points. It's a silly arguement. Fight without viper + poisonspike vs melee rangers and you'll see how well you fare.

 

[shermi]

poison can be purge? JA reaply?

Sb, ns, or infil only need reaply each swing and take 110 damage add from poison, or is a mistake?

Solari if wanna cry about sb are a shit and need mor elove, go vnboard plz. Alot of friends waiting you to say yes need more love!!.

 

[Solari]

poison can be purge? JA reaply?

Sb, ns, or infil only need reaply each swing and take 110 damage add from poison, or is a mistake?

Solari if wanna cry about sb are a shit and need mor elove, go vnboard plz. Alot of friends waiting you to say yes need more love!!.

Huh?

 

[Puppet]

The diffrent growth rates means that some of the SB class strenght lies in it's higher style damage which is negated on a larger scale by the magic shielding.

Base-damage for both classes is about the same. SB's get more style-damage, therefore SB's do more damage overall. Ofcourse the style-reduction takes more of the SB's damage then the Ranger's damage (if SB is CS-spec and not LA-spec), however, after the reduction, the SB still does more damage.

1) RF has no 15% disavantage to legendaries which is a huge flaw.

This is entirely wrong. This patch, leather is 5% weak to heat and thats it! Reinforced is neutral to heat, weak to cold, matter, energy. Reinforced has far more weaknesses then leather, which means reinforced-users need to cap more resists then a leather-user.

The point of zephyr is not to land some uberhard growthrate styles but to bypass any defence your opponent might have. With a swingspeed of 1.6 or so will allow you 8 hits

hmmm.. Well I dont see Zephyrs lasting for 12-13 seconds to be honest.

Havn't you just been trying to proove SB's has the same toys? Sure you have to spend points in timers, but it's part of the class' style and it costs shitloads of realm skill points. It's a silly arguement. Fight without viper + poisonspike vs melee rangers and you'll see how well you fare.

That means the Ranger fights without PD and IP ? Or IP and Purge?

 

[Solari]

Base-damage for both classes is about the same. SB's get more style-damage, therefore SB's do more damage overall. Ofcourse the style-reduction takes more of the SB's damage then the Ranger's damage (if SB is CS-spec and not LA-spec), however, after the reduction, the SB still does more damage.

You said it yourself WH will block more damage from the SB rather than the ranger thus will it be a ranger advantage. Imagine no magic shielding had existed and calculate on the % amount of damage the SB would do more than the ranger before and after a magic shielding, you'd find that the damage diffrence is lowered.

This is entirely wrong. This patch, leather is 5% weak to heat and thats it! Reinforced is neutral to heat, weak to cold, matter, energy. Reinforced has far more weaknesses then leather, which means reinforced-users need to cap more resists then a leather-user.

Maybe look at the dates of the posts this was written prepatch /slap

hmmm.. Well I dont see Zephyrs lasting for 12-13 seconds to be honest.

10 seconds FZ followed by an icestorm with no chance of evade.