May aswell hand the premiership to chelsea now

[Marc]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5000208.stm



Its bad for football that chelsea can just sign who they want. No other team can compete. No one likes to see a one horse race which its going to be if chelsea can keep splashing the cash. Remind me of the wigan RL team of the late 80s early 90s. They were the only team with money and so won 9 challenge cups (Like the FA cup) on the run, not to mention 8 league titles in 9 years

 

[evzy]

Remember when Spurs signed his old strike parter Rebrov who was pretty tasty as well and everyone thought he would be 20+ goals a season and couldnt hit a barn door, or when the Mancs signed Veron and everyone in the press raved about that as well...

Just cos he has done it elsewhere doesnt always mean he will be able to do it so easy in the Premiership. But...yeah it don't look clever for everyone else.

 

[Bracken]

I got mixed feelings on this. It's great seeing more and more top players coming to Villa Park each season (all be it for the opposition), but of course it's frustrating knowing we have absolutely zero chance of winning a trophy as we don't have any money. As for Chelsea winning it, well at the moment I don't mind Chelsea winning every year because atleast it's not Man U No doubt in time I'll get fed up of them, but not yet - I'm still enjoying hearing Gary Neville every season saying "We'll win it next year" and then watching them completely fail. Having said that, would be good it Arsenal and Liverpool (and possibly Spurs) can push them all the way next season.

 

[Marc]

Rebrov was nowhere near the class of Schevchenko. He was also at spurs who at the time were a middle of the league team. He was never gonna score goals for them. Veron didnt want to go utd. They were the only team who came in for him after the trouble that made inter get rid of him. If your heart isnt in it you will never play well

 

[Marc]

I got mixed feelings on this. It's great seeing more and more top players coming to Villa Park each season (all be it for the opposition), but of course it's frustrating knowing we have absolutely zero chance of winning a trophy as we don't have any money. As for Chelsea winning it, well at the moment I don't mind Chelsea winning every year because atleast it's not Man U No doubt in time I'll get fed up of them, but not yet - I'm still enjoying hearing Gary Neville every season saying "We'll win it next year" and then watching them completely fail. Having said that, would be good it Arsenal and Liverpool (and possibly Spurs) can push them all the way next season.

Do you not think it devalues the premiership though? I mean, say if you were Ronaldinho and Barca wanted to get shut and you wanted to play in the premiership but chelsea didnt need you? You are hardly likely to go to arse, scum or liverpool though are you because they have no chance of winning a trophy. The top players wantto win trophies, they arent motivated by ££££££

 

[evzy]

Don't hit the panic buttons so soon - Rafa will reign Mour"gobshite"inho in soon enough. Besides - if money bought you everything Real Madrid would be walking la liga every year and they don't. Chelsea were a decent side before Roman came in and his cash took them to the next level a lot quicker and easier than other clubs as they could just swamp the squad with quality. But the trick now is keeping them all happy and motivated - complacency will set in soon enough I hope, that and a few teams are getting Chelsea's number now - just like they did with Arsenal after their 50 game unbeaten stretch. All things come to an end - I support Liverpool and remember when we dominated the game

 

[Marc]

Don't hit the panic buttons so soon - Rafa will reign Mour"gobshite"inho in soon enough. Besides - if money bought you everything Real Madrid would be walking la liga every year and they don't. Chelsea were a decent side before Roman came in and his cash took them to the next level a lot quicker and easier than other clubs as they could just swamp the squad with quality. But the trick now is keeping them all happy and motivated - complacency will set in soon enough I hope, that and a few teams are getting Chelsea's number now - just like they did with Arsenal after their 50 game unbeaten stretch. All things come to an end - I support Liverpool and remember when we dominated the game

The difference between Real and chelsea is that chelsea have top players in abundance (sp?). Real Madrid have a class first 11. Chelsea have a class first 11 and could put out a second team that could finish second. That is why they will never finish anywhere other than top. If the liverpool get injuries to their top players they players they bring in are average. Chelsea bring in top class players :<

Anyway, sod Schevchenko, looks like Everton are getting johnson. Top 3 for us next year

 

[Vladamir]

Wonder who'll score the most penalties this year in the premiership then

 

[Marc]

Wonder who'll score the most penalties this year in the premiership then

lol not Schevchenko

 

[cHodAX]

It was going be be difficult to overtake them regardless of the fact Shevchenko is signing, this just makes it more so. I am an avid United fan but I just don't see how we can catch them if we lose Rudd, we also need 3-4 players in different postitions I just don't believe that United have that kind of money anymore. A couple of good players will be enough for second spot but winning it requires about £60 million worth of players and that isn't going to happen.

I think Arsenal and Liverpool will both be better teams next season but I just don't see anyone overtaking Chelsea unless they Chelsea shoot themselves in the foot. They can buy anyone they want and they have a great manager, hard to compete with that.

 

[Krait]

well at the moment I don't mind Chelsea winning every year because atleast it's not Man U No doubt in time I'll get fed up of them, but not yet - I'm still enjoying hearing Gary Neville every season saying "We'll win it next year" and then watching them completely fail.

Same here.
I'm not bothered who wins it as long as it's not Scumchester.
( I still pray for them to get relegated every season )

 

[Thadius]

Hmm didnt Manchester do this for years?

Cletic and Rangers have been doing it for a hell of a lot longer

Clubs who have money will always have better squads

Thats why I like the FA cup so much, you see Newcastle and Liverpool beaten by teams like Burnley and Yeovil

Look at Luton, they spanked Liverpool until a couple of flukey goals brought Liverpool level

 

[Thadius]

It was going be be difficult to overtake them regardless of the fact Shevchenko is signing, this just makes it more so. I am an avid United fan but I just don't see how we can catch them if we lose Rudd, we also need 3-4 players in different postitions I just don't believe that United have that kind of money anymore. A couple of good players will be enough for second spot but winning it requires about £60 million worth of players and that isn't going to happen.

I think Arsenal and Liverpool will both be better teams next season but I just don't see anyone overtaking Chelsea unless they Chelsea shoot themselves in the foot. They can buy anyone they want and they have a great manager, hard to compete with that.

I hate scumchester, but have to admit, you had a fantastic squad in the 90s

Beckham, Gary Neville, Scholes, Yorke, Cole, Schmeichal, Keane(I dont like him, but he is a brilliant player), Stam

All class players, when you bought Ruud, thats when it went out of control. Maybe thats why cole and yorke left, primadonna Ruud probably forced them out(Just a hunch, but look at way he is carrying on now)

 

[Vladamir]

lol not Schevchenko

Was referring to Johnson (presuming you mean Andy). Scored around half his premiership goals from penalties when CP were up there

 

[Bugz]

I hate scumchester, but have to admit, you had a fantastic squad in the 90s

Beckham, Gary Neville, Scholes, Yorke, Cole, Schmeichal, Keane(I dont like him, but he is a brilliant player), Stam

All class players, when you bought Ruud, thats when it went out of control. Maybe thats why cole and yorke left, primadonna Ruud probably forced them out(Just a hunch, but look at way he is carrying on now)

Yorke and Cole were both shit compared to cantona and ruud tbh.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Wish the forum peeps would make a football section

 

[cHodAX]

I hate scumchester, but have to admit, you had a fantastic squad in the 90s

Beckham, Gary Neville, Scholes, Yorke, Cole, Schmeichal, Keane(I dont like him, but he is a brilliant player), Stam

All class players, when you bought Ruud, thats when it went out of control. Maybe thats why cole and yorke left, primadonna Ruud probably forced them out(Just a hunch, but look at way he is carrying on now)

LOL no, Yorke was shown the door because he spent more time in the papers than he did on the pitch. The whole Jordon thing killed his career. Andy Cole left later and I was sad to see him go but he needed to be playing week in week out to stand a chance of playing for England.

The club really lost it's way when they started buying sub-standard players like Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba, also settling for second rate players like Quinton Fortune in the squad. In a way I am glad they don't have gazillions to spend anymore, it means they have to go back to what United have always been great at, developing young players.

As for all the United haters, I can understand your resentment towards United, we won alot of trophies and alot of United fans acted like complete twats. Just don't think all United fans are like that, you would be sadly mistaken. Loudmouths are loudmouths, the bloody country is full of them. One thing you can never say though is that United bought those throphies, we had 9 British players in our first 11 at one point, 7 of them were home grown by United. Ok we paid alot of the likes of Cole and Yorke at the time but they only cost a fraction of the money that top Italian clubs were spending at the time. It was better to buy British based than go aboard, we had to break British transfer records just to get the clubs to sell up.

Sure we spent money when we needed too but the rot only really set in when we started spending £20 million plus on players, I liked Veron but he was terrible value for money, what we paid for Rio was laughable and the only good value we have seen at that price range so far has been Van Nistelrooy.

I would rather see talented young lads like Rossi, Pique and Bardsley given a chance than see United go out and pay £25 million for a midfielder who has never played domestic football in a world class league. Arsenal have the right idea, buy good young players and let them grow up at the club, they become much more loyal than buying established foreign players and they work harder when it matters most.

 

[Urgluf]

Sad thing Shevchenko left AC Milan.. He was a keyplayer there (duhuh)

Pretty sure he will do great at Chelsea, I'm still hoping he'll stay at AC milan tho..

And tbh money buys you players but doesnt make you a team

 

[evzy]

Wish the forum peeps would make a football section

Can you imagine it tho - would descend in flame wars about 20 seconds after the season kicks off!

 

[Tasslehoff]

Agree with you Chodax, would love to see Rossi have a go
I don't really like Man U, I don't hate em either.
Think they should try a young team, could be great already in a couple of years.
Up front they should use Rooney and Rossi, Rossi is great from what I've seen, just hope he doesen't make a Robinho

 

[evzy]

Rossi is great from what I've seen, just hope he doesen't make a Robinho

You mean let his mother get kidnapped?

Depends where in Manchester he stuck her tbh...... if she is in a nice little one up one down in Moss-Side then she will be splashed over the papers soon enough with the usual pic of a ransom note and a ear thru the mail.

 

[cHodAX]

Yorke and Cole were both shit compared to cantona and ruud tbh.

It is all subjective, as a pairing for one year Cole and Yorke were the best on the planet. Cantona and Rudd never played together and you can never really compare them accurately anyway, as individuals yes Cantona was exceptional and Rudd is prolific but Cole scored a shit load of goals for us and Yorke was exceptional in the Treble year.

 

[Bracken]

Do you not think it devalues the premiership though? I mean, say if you were Ronaldinho and Barca wanted to get shut and you wanted to play in the premiership but chelsea didnt need you? You are hardly likely to go to arse, scum or liverpool though are you because they have no chance of winning a trophy. The top players wantto win trophies, they arent motivated by ££££££

Well it depends really. Arsenal bringing Rosicky, who I think is a terrific player, is good news all round but I think you're right that if it's only Chelsea who attract top players then it won't be good long term. But dont underestimate the pulling power of Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U... 2 successive European Cup finalists in that trio and Man U are still one of the biggest names in Europe. I think it's going to be interesting next season as I think Chelsea will be pushed harder in the league even with the upcoming signings (Kalou coming aswell now it seems) which to me seem to be geared for a big push on the Champion's League. Let's face it, Chelsea can't really get much better in the league where as the others can and I think will improve.

 

[ilaya]

shevchenko is a good signing for chelsea, lets be fair, but they gona offload drogba? sorry that dont make sense. shevkenko is probably best finisher in europe, drogba would be perfect foil for him.

think ferdinand/shearer partnership back a while.. can work, in chelsea's case its just ego's and wagepackets..

premiership aint over before it begins.. teams cans win, not players.. think back to man utd and alan hansen - you wont win anything with kids.. and they beat the multi millionaire blackburn team to title.

chelsea arent unbeatable.. it's just other teams are less consistent.

 

[Glacier]

Marc is a nerd.

 

[Cemeterygates]

personally i don think its fair to be like "well they have a world class squad so they bound to win"...i mean...u can stick the top players in the world together....but do they play well together??? its th emanager that does that...but ye...just my opinion...u cant buy a title..u earn it..no matter who u got in ya squad

 

[Bracken]

Marc is a nerd...


"Oddblade

9 Million combined Rp, across 15 50's"

Might wanna check your sig about before trying to be funny

 

[Marc]

Chelsea also in talks with Kalou. Probably because Liverpool were rumoured to be interested in him

 

[Marc]

Marc is a nerd.

and you're a fag

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[Krait]

Might wanna check your sig about before trying to be funny

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