Matter debuff on RC?!

[Lanfaer]

What the fish!?
Why in gods name do runemasters get a matter debuff, have mythic planned for us to debuff hibs for the albion casters or what?!

We have cold and heat debuff, my guess is that mythic fubard and either typed wrong, cause when you delve the "Vex of dirt" debuff it says "30 % matter debuff" ... so it should either say "30% energy debuff" or they just gave us a very very veeeeeery useless debuff ...

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

Shamans DoT and DD are matter.

 

[Lanfaer]

phew, thought there was something wrong there, only my dyslectic eyes it seems. =)

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by Lanfaer
phew, thought there was something wrong there, only my dyslectic eyes it seems. =)

heh, unlike hibs who also get a matter debuff (on elds afaik) which does do nothing as no attacks at all in all of hib are presently matter

 

[VidX]

hehe true.

But it is made up for in the fact that Enchies get the heat debuff in the Mana line

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

Your druids DoT are matter are they not?

 

[Jenna.]

I heard the heat-debuff is also welly welly good ~~

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by old.willowywicca


heh, unlike hibs who also get a matter debuff (on elds afaik) which does do nothing as no attacks at all in all of hib are presently matter

*cough*Druids Snare*cough*

 

[Makwaerk]

well we don't have any fire dmg in Midgard, so is that not the useless one?

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by old.Atrox


*cough*Druids Snare*cough*

*cough* Druid's don't have snare *cough*

I'm guessing you mean their AoE spec root, and that's not an attack all that a matter debuff might do is increase the length of the root by a small amount of time. Druids DoTs are body not matter.

And why on earth is that firey spears runie aoe not heat damage? lol.. yep heat debuff is useless for mids.

 

[old.Lianuchta]

It is so peope find it easier to crossteam

IRC:

<Cabbiie1> Need some Matter debuff on some pesky Mids at AMG, and elds around?
<Voidster23> Yep will be there in a sec. Have fun harvesting realm points after I debuff them for 30%
<Cabbiie1> Thanks. I'll let you farm some realm point of my guild amtes sometime if you want
<Voidster23> Thanks dude. Wait got a PM from a Shaman who wants some Albs debuffed at AMG. All in a days work...

 

[old.Bubble]

Runies-

You have a baseline cold DD spell
you have a cold debuff in your RC line

so a RC runie has-
good nukes
good bolts
GTAOE
normal AOE

pfff

 

[Dook_Pug]

The highest baseline cold nuke is at level 43, so it's nowhere near as powerful as the Enchanter 50% heat debuff+baseline (level 50) nuke if that's what you're thinking.

 

[Danya]

It's 155 instead of 179 base damage, assuming you're hitting for cap after debuff that's 465 instead of 537 damage. Still pretty decent.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by Danyan
It's 155 instead of 179 base damage, assuming you're hitting for cap after debuff that's 465 instead of 537 damage. Still pretty decent.

I only hit for cap once when I had that spec and it was on a greencon Cleric.

 

[Danya]

Hmm chanters seem to get 500+ every nuke, can runies not manage about 450/nuke like that then?

 

[Biermann]

they sure can. with mom2 i nuke for 400-500 all the time. if they don´t got like 40% cold, then it´s just 350.

 

[old.tuppe]

Originally posted by old.Bubble
Runies-

You have a baseline cold DD spell
you have a cold debuff in your RC line

so a RC runie has-
good nukes
good bolts
GTAOE
normal AOE

pfff

rc have cold debuff, but baseline dd is energy.
darkness rm do cold damage, but he have really low darkness if want from rc line cold debuff, so its in different line and high there.
rc have
ok bolts (remember! resists + armour factor lower dmg, can be blokked partially whit shield)
crap dd (baseline)
gtaeo
ok ae

Darkness
Single Target Direct Damage Type: Cold <---------

Runecarving
Single Target Direct Damage Type: Energy <---------

Runes of Destruction - Runecarving Spec.
25 Vex of Cold 15% (1st cold debuff) <-------

copy from classes of camelot.

and YES! rc get that nice heat debuff dunno yet what to do whit it, maybe group whit dragon and he toast me some sausage, after i debuff it first?

 

[Danya]

RM have baseline cold DD as well as the RC baseline energy. Also the darkness baseline DD is 2.6s cast vs the 3.0s of the RC baseline.

Best spec would then be 46RC / 28 Dark / 4 supp
50% cold debuff, then use the darkness base nukes. With 28+12 dark you're already at 40, so the variance will be quite small.

 

[old.tuppe]

well, yes.
but how often that "low", i still call 40 low dd get resisted?
or debuff?
allready read, well when not see?, in VN alott whining how often early 40 spells resisted, and in this case you are whit + items just in 40?
why not spec rc line just so high get 1st debuff for darkcarver?
and rest to darkness?
all rm line are ok, sadly we get our last spells middle age in 40.

whit that spec, are out bubble (for group).
self go that usual suppression to get 10 sec bubble, was it in 26? and rest to rc, there is allready enough darkcarver,some lack of suppression specced, and middle rc line.
reason for this? keeps and wanna hit against those pbaeo chanters get enough keepraids against hibs/albs, who only stand in lord room nuking, yelling use tactics!