makes me laugh

[Bistrup666]

tough shit i am afraid, do something about the people in your own realm or put up with getting power owned prime time.

ie ban them from raids, events dont craft for them etc etc

Ecatly.

They only ones that can punish those who do these lame AC raids over and over again is their own realm ea Albion. As long as U choose to ignore it that makes U no better than them and hib/mid will take it out on the whole realm/blame the whole realm.

 

[pip]

nice to critise someone for being a school kid player. Real solid arguement. Its a bit like someone saying your an unemployed bum thats to stupid and lazy to work so plays daoc every single minute of his miserable life.

Albs are scum cuz of pricks like horner? And mids are not scum cuz of pricks like joo?

fuck me were is the word lemon? now i am worried

 

[Fanguir]

What makes me laugh is that not long ago Albs had 4 relics, how they got them is not important but the game was unbalanced and lots of people quit or moved on and Hibs/Mids gave Alb a bollocking for it.

Mids have been pounding Alb for quite some time now (Which ofcourse is part of the game) and by the looks of it mids will take alb relics because of ML run in Alb (Good Advantage ofcourse).

All im trying to say is that most of you mids/hibs complained about how unbalanced this game is because of the Relics and yet your trying to make it unbalaced again. Also if its on the receiving end DO NOT come on here and complain (This goes for all realms really).

People moan about AC raids (which im totally against) but whats the difference in attacking a realm when you know damn well majority of the enemy is busy with ML Runs etc... Yes there is a few defenders and its prime time ofcourse which personally I have no problem with it.

my english isn't very good and I dont try to Flame 1 specific realm but im just trying to get my point accross.

please try keep this as a discussion, this is NOT meant to be a flame bait thread.

If the above is unclear please say and I try explain again.

Amphrax/Arauddry

The coward , u only kill low rr u gimp, so why care?

 

[brad]

ok my opinion ofall of this is:

Hibgard:
try attacking each others realms......why? we need time to heal the damage we have done..( as a realm) with AC'ing raids.

We dont want you to take OUR relics, or trash our keeps etc etc....

Best way for us to resolve this matter is for you guys to give us time to sort it out.....we cant do that with you always in our frontier as most of us that give a shit are too busy defending OUR keeps and OUR relics...

I play evenings and weekends(As i work for a living unlike some on this forum it seems ).

Give the realm of Albion A break from IRVR and the constant assaults from both realms and allow us to sort out the issues we have.

Now heres where we see who the respectful people are.....

DO YOU allow us to sort our problem and LEAVE us alone for a week or two, or DO YOU continue the assault on Albion and force us to reconsider our stance.

Because tbh Im getting bored with all the defence. Good rps and I managed to save ren tower 1 for a long time yesterday before we left for beno defence, but allow us to heal out wounds and kick the crap out of your friends in Hib/MID....

You have no respect for the AC'rs thats fine, show some to those that are trying to solve the issue.....

Maybe if albs attcked mid in prime time and then hibs would also get involved then you wouldn't have this problem then lol? However albs do't actually take any keeps regardless of the circumstances. You don't even make random bg's to try get irvr in mid.

It's so boring tbh. And no i doubt mids are gonns start hitting hibs. There already underpopulated as it is so no point making their situation even worse. But if albs maybe at the weekend for friday night actually tried to take a keep then maybe it wouldn't be so bad with mids constantly pounding on you all the time.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

But if albs maybe at the weekend for friday night actually tried to take a keep then maybe it wouldn't be so bad with mids constantly pounding on you all the time.

With pouding on you all the time you surely mean Arepa hitting me on all chars from 50-80 damage while he has 5 FGs of Mids stuck to him?

 

[Sollac]

Maybe if albs attcked mid in prime time and then hibs would also get involved then you wouldn't have this problem then lol? However albs do't actually take any keeps regardless of the circumstances. You don't even make random bg's to try get irvr in mid.

It's so boring tbh. And no i doubt mids are gonns start hitting hibs. There already underpopulated as it is so no point making their situation even worse. But if albs maybe at the weekend for friday night actually tried to take a keep then maybe it wouldn't be so bad with mids constantly pounding on you all the time.

by the time i get on normally, on say the suggested friday night Alb is pretty much blue already.......so what to do? retake our own keeps and then take yours, or take yours and then ours......

loose loose vivious circle, normally with albs on the bottom

 

[brad]

by the time i get on normally, on say the suggested friday night Alb is pretty much blue already.......so what to do? retake our own keeps and then take yours, or take yours and then ours......

loose loose vivious circle, normally with albs on the bottom

Well albs have got to sort out the people that ac first. If mids get a relic things will start dying down, mids will back of and rvr will go back to normal. If albs then did something primetime then things would be fine.

But if albs then go and ac the relic again the same thing is going to happen to your frontier again. Your community needs to have a serious discussion about the people who do the ac raids or things aint gonna get better for you.

If albs could prove to both mid/hib that they are changing their ways then maybe things would change. But even now, albs wait till 5 am to take their keeps back, why not be pro active and take them back while mids are still online.

Stop leaving the early morning raiders to do all the rvr siegeing for you, get organised and your realm and do it for yourself and then thins would get better.

 

[Oneeyedjack]

Ok, I would admit the situation is f*cked up, but who is to blame?

First of all, dont expect you can make an all weekend PvE event and expect all Mids and Hibs just to stay away from RvR so you can get all your MLs done. On top of that you (some albs) choose to AC a relic the night before this event - comon! What do you expect the response will be? Dont use an all weekend as an excuse to this situation. You made 2 choises: 1. Go PvE instead for defending, 2. To do AC raid on us right before. Thats 2 choises, you made and thats 2 choises you dont give us (Mids and Hibs) when you do AC raids when we sleep.

I tried to expalin the bad situation in another thread like this:

Well I guess we (the Mids and Hibs) should take it as a compliment when those muppets take the relic when we are asleep. They do it because they cant do it when we are not asleep. If they could we would not be having this discussion, unless ofc they do it to ruin the gameplay for us??? (But thats not against the Sotg by Goa definition - tsk tsk, the game is so twisted I could cry). No I guess this pathetic bunch of people is doing it because they cant compete with the rest of us in primetime RvR and if they could they still need to prove it (and come on they had several years to prove it and they still havent moved a inch from killing grey characters while xping, camping bridgetowers with DI bots and ACing relics over and over and over).

I must say I feel really sorry for the rest of the realm of Albion. I think 80% of the realm or more generally dont like this playstyle (or I REALLY hope they dont), but they cant do much about it. They can ofc PM them and say they dont like their playstyle, but thats not gonna happen. Then they could avoid playing with them, but they already do, because these looser play at night when nobody else is. Then they could stop defending those relics the AC crew bring back from those "raids of shame", but I guess "we" are not that honourable? And finally they could make a stand and lower those keeps that holds these "hot" relics - oh wait thats against the Sotg, hmmm. More or less out of options. In other words the realm of Albion is being made a fool of by 10-20 people from their own realm and then Goa throw them a bucket of cold water in the face by saying: "Sorry guys, we cant do anything about it (or wont?). You just have to live with it and pay up for us providing you with those rules. Oh and if you have any ideas how to improve this mess take it up with Mythic, because thats not our department either."
I dont know many companies that is able to screw their customers over and get payed for it. Anybody with a little bit of business sense would say thats completly insane and bad business. Letting a small group of people destroying the game experience for so many people in 3 realms. So I can just say, Im truely sorry for those albs that share the same realm as those loosers, you should roll Mid or Hib and join us killling them between 2 am and 7 am if you can keep yourself awake. We are still underpopulated and not all elite scums.

The Mids and Hibs are facing the excact same problems as the Albs are, we cant do anything about it, because we need sleep and dont like to play this game without any challenge (like PvEing relics at night). And since Goa wont listen to our concerns and objections, we are left with 2 options: leave the game or strike back as hard as we can and to try and send a message that we dont accept the crappy playstyle. And thats excactly what we are doing by painting Albion blue (and green for that matter). In that process we run over all those albs that also play primetime and care about this game, but we are left without any obtions, because we wont leave the game (just yet) and we dont get ANY help or support from Goa. And then we are back to square one - 10-20 people are screwing over 3 realms and making the RvR experience for the majoraty of all players much worse than it could be. But thats not greifing (by Goa definitions).

Come on, it should be obvious to everybody by now, those a-holes should be banned into oblivion, so the rest of us can enjoy this game as it was intended - Realm vs Realm, not "AC-crew protected by Goa ruleset" vs 3 Realms! Tsk, tsk, tsk this is as twisted as it can be at the moment.

ok my opinion ofall of this is:

Hibgard:
try attacking each others realms......why? we need time to heal the damage we have done..( as a realm) with AC'ing raids.

We dont want you to take OUR relics, or trash our keeps etc etc....

Best way for us to resolve this matter is for you guys to give us time to sort it out.....we cant do that with you always in our frontier as most of us that give a shit are too busy defending OUR keeps and OUR relics...

I play evenings and weekends(As i work for a living unlike some on this forum it seems ).

Give the realm of Albion A break from IRVR and the constant assaults from both realms and allow us to sort out the issues we have.

Now heres where we see who the respectful people are.....

DO YOU allow us to sort our problem and LEAVE us alone for a week or two, or DO YOU continue the assault on Albion and force us to reconsider our stance.

Because tbh Im getting bored with all the defence. Good rps and I managed to save ren tower 1 for a long time yesterday before we left for beno defence, but allow us to heal out wounds and kick the crap out of your friends in Hib/MID....

You have no respect for the AC'rs thats fine, show some to those that are trying to solve the issue.....

I would like to give you the benifit of the doubts, but its not like your (Albion) history proves that anything is gonna change. What is it now 10-12-15 or more relics that your realm has ACed when rest of the 2 realms was sleeping? I completely agree with you, and if there was just a shred of evidence that your realm was try to heal this situation, it would be fair and maybe even better for the clustered servers to give you a break. I can tell you that most Mids actually didnt go for your keeps last week in some hope you would start some normal RvR or attack us in primetime (since we had the relic), but the Albion response was an AC raid on Arvakr while we was sleeping. How the h*ll should we interpret that? An attempt to heal the situation? Hmmm, those 10-20 albion players (the AC crew) are screwing you and us over bigtime and we can only response in 1 way - full attack on Albion. Im into healing this situation, but you have to bring something to the table other than ACing our relics.

 

[Ucallme]

The coward , u only kill low rr u gimp, so why care?

how can you call me a coward when you dont see 90% of my fights?

Amphrax/Arauddry

 

[Flimgoblin]

glad to see lots of action on the cluster relics moving means people are RvRing.

Nice one mids/hibs, for the albs crying about it - lets just take them back.

Leaving this one open (as opposed to the other two threads) to consolidate the discussion (who am I kidding... whine!)

 

[Sollac]

Well albs have got to sort out the people that ac first. If mids get a relic things will start dying down, mids will back of and rvr will go back to normal. If albs then did something primetime then things would be fine.

But if albs then go and ac the relic again the same thing is going to happen to your frontier again. Your community needs to have a serious discussion about the people who do the ac raids or things aint gonna get better for you.

If albs could prove to both mid/hib that they are changing their ways then maybe things would change. But even now, albs wait till 5 am to take their keeps back, why not be pro active and take them back while mids are still online.

Stop leaving the early morning raiders to do all the rvr siegeing for you, get organised and your realm and do it for yourself and then thins would get better.

ATm the way i see it ...most of the albs are playing there mid accounts as mids sem to be ontop at the mo which is good.

OK I make the efoort stay up till 5am and say pleaseguys dont AC the relic......what am i gonna get same thing most of of you guys dont see.

"Fook off noob" is what ill get


your point about fight back when just MIDS on ...these days it never happens, its ALWAYS HIB AND MID......you guys joined at the hip....

Perhaps if hibs attacked mid instead of alb then we may have a chance....

but until you ego maniacs give us a break we dont have ahope in hell....

Perhaps if you stayed in your own realm, and didnt come to visit us just before you log in to your proper realm to check out our defences, the game would be better.

Wanna play hib/mid then fooking stay there...alb is in a mess because of all the x realming and thats the main Bug bear we have at the moment.......

its simple as Let us sort our realm.

For all I know its you fookers on other realms doing the damn AC raids, just to give your egos a reason to park your arses in ALb all fooking night

 

[Sollac]

ATm the way i see it ...most of the albs are playing there mid accounts as mids sem to be ontop at the mo which is good.

OK I make the efoort stay up till 5am and say pleaseguys dont AC the relic......what am i gonna get same thing most of of you guys dont see.

"Fook off noob" is what ill get


your point about fight back when just MIDS on ...these days it never happens, its ALWAYS HIB AND MID......you guys joined at the hip....

Perhaps if hibs attacked mid instead of alb then we may have a chance....

but until you ego maniacs give us a break we dont have ahope in hell....

Perhaps if you stayed in your own realm, and didnt come to visit us just before you log in to your proper realm to check out our defences, the game would be better.

Wanna play hib/mid then fooking stay there...alb is in a mess because of all the x realming and thats the main Bug bear we have at the moment.......

its simple as Let us sort our realm.

For all I know its you fookers on other realms doing the damn AC raids, just to give your egos a reason to park your arses in ALb all fooking night

as tyo leaving keeps to be retaken before 5am.....hibs said it before whatsthe point....why was bp and plat on things that will not stand long enuff.

the Key is beno and that will stand.

give a sign that you are willing to let us change...

Leave Alb alone for 2 days....tuesday wednesday and we will come to you in mid.

dont cut ports dont even set foot in ALB for those 2 days and I will personally come to attack mid.....

I bored of defence, irvr sucks imo

 

[Sollac]

Ok, I would admit the situation is f*cked up, but who is to blame?

First of all, dont expect you can make an all weekend PvE event and expect all Mids and Hibs just to stay away from RvR so you can get all your MLs done. On top of that you (some albs) choose to AC a relic the night before this event - comon! What do you expect the response will be? Dont use an all weekend as an excuse to this situation. You made 2 choises: 1. Go PvE instead for defending, 2. To do AC raid on us right before. Thats 2 choises, you made and thats 2 choises you dont give us (Mids and Hibs) when you do AC raids when we sleep.

I tried to expalin the bad situation in another thread like this:






I would like to give you the benifit of the doubts, but its not like your (Albion) history proves that anything is gonna change. What is it now 10-12-15 or more relics that your realm has ACed when rest of the 2 realms was sleeping? I completely agree with you, and if there was just a shred of evidence that your realm was try to heal this situation, it would be fair and maybe even better for the clustered servers to give you a break. I can tell you that most Mids actually didnt go for your keeps last week in some hope you would start some normal RvR or attack us in primetime (since we had the relic), but the Albion response was an AC raid on Arvakr while we was sleeping. How the h*ll should we interpret that? An attempt to heal the situation? Hmmm, those 10-20 albion players (the AC crew) are screwing you and us over bigtime and we can only response in 1 way - full attack on Albion. Im into healing this situation, but you have to bring something to the table other than ACing our relics.

ok tell me what I can personally do to resolve the matter....no allow to raids, not allow them to grp ...... think thats being done.....

Go around to there houses to smash u0p there computers.......

Get real.

Mids still attcked Alb and to be honest since you had relics we have been constantly harrassed by mids.....so in my point of view...no let up thus your talking crap too...

this is the way it is......just accept it

 

[Kvadi]

glad to see lots of action on the cluster relics moving means people are RvRing.

No actually. Sometimes it means some people are PvE'ing while other people are sleeping.

 

[Oneeyedjack]

ok tell me what I can personally do to resolve the matter....no allow to raids, not allow them to grp ...... think thats being done.....

Go around to there houses to smash u0p there computers.......

Get real.

Mids still attcked Alb and to be honest since you had relics we have been constantly harrassed by mids.....so in my point of view...no let up thus your talking crap too...

this is the way it is......just accept it

Hmm did you even read my post? I just said more or less what you said, that the Albs couldnt do much about the AC crew with Goa protecting the AC crew, hmmm I guess I wasnt being real enough for you.

And no we didnt paint Albion blue before you did the AC on us. We did get port in alb yes, but we didnt bring our paintbrushes before we was ACed.

Oh and if this is the way things are and we should just accept it (like you say), I think you should start accepting that Albion is going to get blue/green a lot more than it already has been. Becouse we (Mids and Hibs) only has 2 options, accept AC raids and leave the game, or pay you back on each occation you AC us. Yes, that sucks, but it the state of the game atm and we havent seen anything from albion side yet, that proves a change in your attitude. Blame it on the AC crew, blame it on Goa or even blame Mythic, but dont blame Mids and Hibs, we are just as much victims as you are, we are just responding the only way we can do atm.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

If we can't blame mids and hibs for painting albion frontier blue and green, who are we to blame then?

Just kidding.

Could you plz be so kind and tell the 3 stooges to stop pve'ing our towers/keeps while you're at it aswell?

*hint*

It's 2 hunters and 1 shadowblade goin at it right now.

Kthxbye!

Good night.

 

[brad]

Perhaps if you stayed in your own realm, and didnt come to visit us just before you log in to your proper realm to check out our defences, the game would be better.

LoL had been on the entire day basicly leading the mid BG. I loged for about an hour b4 i loged into alb where i stood still for about half an hour, not even going near the rest of nf. I didn't look to see how many albs there were defending or anything. And when i loged of alb i never came back on. I had a discussion about what had been happening during the day and that was it.

If your gonna start talking shit about something i didn't do then you can fuck of tbh.

 

[scorge]

I cant beleive that people actually give a fuck about the relics still, ok it gives you a 10% bonus, but thats not game changing. With a bit of skill you can get by.

If your toon cant compete in Rvr becasuse of relics maybe you should look at rolling something else.

it must really annoy some people that they cant get uber damage and pwn people. try getting a good group instead is more fun then relic watching!

 

[Flimgoblin]

I cant beleive that people actually give a fuck about the relics still, ok it gives you a 10% bonus, but thats not game changing. With a bit of skill you can get by.

If your toon cant compete in Rvr becasuse of relics maybe you should look at rolling something else.

it must really annoy some people that they cant get uber damage and pwn people. try getting a good group instead is more fun then relic watching!

it's just an excuse for people to flame each other/fluff their mate's epeens.

They're a bit bored in game so they have to play the forums instead.

 

[Hawkwind]

LoL had been on the entire day basicly leading the mid BG. I loged for about an hour b4 i loged into alb where i stood still for about half an hour, not even going near the rest of nf. I didn't look to see how many albs there were defending or anything. And when i loged of alb i never came back on. I had a discussion about what had been happening during the day and that was it.

If your gonna start talking shit about something i didn't do then you can fuck of tbh.

Can verify all that, Brad logged on alb and we had a decent discussion about the RvR. He wanted to know why all we did was defend Beno. Well, with only 20 odd in BG sod all else we could do. Stay beno = keep relics. Retake did not get going until after ML9 and 10 finished and BG grew to 30-40.

Brad is no a x realming spy.

 

[Tip]

nice to critise someone for being a school kid player. Real solid arguement. Its a bit like someone saying your an unemployed bum thats to stupid and lazy to work so plays daoc every single minute of his miserable life.

Albs are scum cuz of pricks like horner? And mids are not scum cuz of pricks like joo?

Tbh horner treats his own realm mates just as poorly, my dislike of him was from his constant disregard for his own realm mates, twice now I have been in groups where we were farming at an enemy keep, waiting patiently with doors open with people in position, traps down etc, and in comes horner and kills the tower captain even after people asked him not to, so tbh in that situation hes working against his own realm.

 

[fanis]

:worthy: HIBGARD :worthy:

 

[Mastade]

I cant beleive that people actually give a fuck about the relics still, ok it gives you a 10% bonus, but thats not game changing. With a bit of skill you can get by.

If your toon cant compete in Rvr becasuse of relics maybe you should look at rolling something else.

it must really annoy some people that they cant get uber damage and pwn people. try getting a good group instead is more fun then relic watching!

What stuns me is that some people still dont realise, that all the AC raids have had a negative impact on the cluster. Not because of the extra damage boost or the relic imbalance, but as said 1000 times, its simply because it removes the purpose of doing primetime raids, seeing as whatever you do primetime, gets reversed in the middle of the night.. Its very demoralising as a raid leader and i guess its exactly the same for those attending.

 

[Muylaetrix]

What stuns me is that some people still dont realise, that all the AC raids have had a negative impact on the cluster. Not because of the extra damage boost or the relic imbalance, but as said 1000 times, its simply because it removes the purpose of doing primetime raids, seeing as whatever you do primetime, gets reversed in the middle of the night.. Its very demoralising as a raid leader and i guess its exactly the same for those attending.

unfortunately, coping with his frustration when you get back online is something you have to learn.

having your 'work' undone while you are not online is a normal phenomenon in a mmorpg where players are put against eachother as enemies.

usually i go to bed at 1.00 CET, until 1900 Cet, i am either working or sleeping.

if anything happens between 100 cet and 1900 CET, that is just too bad.

waking up and see the fronteer has been repainted or comming home from the office and seeing the same, it's all the same, it's part of the game.

frustrating ? if you think it is, i guess it is.

i don't consider it frustrating.

Legal tools ? yes .

lame ? only if the only reason behind it was to grief.

some albs have in the past done AC's with the only reason to do so was to grief. lame. i am convinced that a few of the mid and hib 'office' raiders only participated in the recent albion inavasion to grief and or vent frustration...

it happens unfortunately.

 

[Jess]

i am convinced that a few of the mid and hib 'office' raiders only participated in the recent albion inavasion to grief and or vent frustration...

it happens unfortunately.

Can also be seen as self defence ... as it gives the people playing in the night something to do ... instead of going to mid/hib and grab relics there

 

[Toggers]

What stuns me is that some people still dont realise, that all the AC raids have had a negative impact on the cluster. Not because of the extra damage boost or the relic imbalance, but as said 1000 times, its simply because it removes the purpose of doing primetime raids, seeing as whatever you do primetime, gets reversed in the middle of the night.. Its very demoralising as a raid leader and i guess its exactly the same for those attending.

nice post mastade, certainly one of the more constructive posts rather than just the typical "omfg fo, youre killing the cluster, wankers etc"

one point id like to add and it will be my final comment on the matter, is yes acing another realms relic is lame, i was totally against wot had been done to the hib relic. however, the relic that was ac'd this time was our own relic and it wasnt taken during prime time in the first place, wasnt ac'd but certainly wasnt prime time.

if nothing else, it certainly spiced up rvr this weekend.

if anyone wishes to quote me and attach the usual bullshit trying to flamebait, you need not bother, i wont reply

 

[DeadOnArrival]

Stop fukking whinging you fanny!!

Get your kick ass inf out so i can try and beat it.

Good point on the relics though.

 

[Draypor]

I cant beleive that people actually give a fuck about the relics still, ok it gives you a 10% bonus, but thats not game changing. With a bit of skill you can get by.

If your toon cant compete in Rvr becasuse of relics maybe you should look at rolling something else.

it must really annoy some people that they cant get uber damage and pwn people. try getting a good group instead is more fun then relic watching!

the 10% in a normal rvr situation is not much of a difference.
but the problem is when u have a relic or 2, instead of 1000 random adding sorcs and scouts u have 2000!

 

[Muylaetrix]

the 10% in a normal rvr situation is not much of a difference.
but the problem is when u have a relic or 2, instead of 1000 random adding sorcs and scouts u have 2000!

blame the players, not the relics.

 

[Shike]

blame the players, not the relics.

albs with enemyrelics = everywhere, albs without relics are just normal albs, as in, many of them. Always been quite a distinguished difference between the two, even on old Prydwen alone back in the days.

You dont see this or react on it as an alb I can imagine though so ofc its not a problem.