make sn1por easor

[Karam_gruul]

i dunno, im in two minds about sniping. one half of my says, its great fun because it is quite a challenge, hitting a moving target is near impossible, and when you actually manage to its quite an accomplishment. but the other half says, its not even skill when you do hit a moving target, its just pure pure luck.

in a way i'd like them to reduce the loss of accuracy by moving the mouse, ok they could still have it, but not to the extent you cant physically hit a moving target. they should have it so when you actually MOVE you havnt a hope in hell of hitting a moving target.

cuz the way it is, snipers only pick off sitting targets, ie people taking aim with some kind of weapon, or people taking cover. it'd be more exciting if people bothered with moving targets.

what i'd actually suggest is a 'sway' of the gun, like in some games, making it difficult to hit stilll, but not impossible.

oh and nerf.. stuff

 

[old.Dillinja]

I agree with ya karam. The reticles are a bit sensitive to movement. But the trick is to anticipate where your target is going and aim the sniper rifle in that area, and by the time they've moved into it your reticles will be near the centre of the screen, leaving you with a clear shot.

Although, like I said before the amount of sensitivity on the bolt driver is over the top and needs to be changed imo.

 

[Nozzer]

Originally posted by Karam_gruul
make sn1por easor

Glen is back!

 

[Tenko]

Originally posted by old.Dillinja
I agree with ya karam.

This had to be quoted because:


a) I agree
b) Has anyone ever agreed with Karam before?

 

[old.Dillinja]

Feck off nozzer, go listen to some garbage or sumthin

 

[Cernos]

Been having a bit of fun last two days with sniping. It's a big challenge. Getting the first shot in is relatively easy. Getting the additional shots needed to kill someone is another matter - only if they're totally preoccupied (or afk) will you land a second shot straight after. Usually it's a case of making a swift exit before everyone and their mother rains fire down in your direction, and then hoping to come back and finish the job. But that makes it challenging and it's satisfying when you get it right. You just have to be prepared to be patient and tolerate eating a lot of dirt (especially when you're staring down the scope too intently and didn't notice that assault tank about to run you over).

As for shooting moving targets, they shouldn't make this easier. Snipers aren't meant to shoot moving targets, unless they are moving directly towards you or away from you (and you can sometimes position yourself to maximise the chance of this). It is sometimes possible to get a hit on a laterally moving target, but it requires anticipation and lots of luck, which is as it should be.

 

[Gekul]

If you could hit where you aimed with no delay it would be overpowered. Hitting moving targets is tricky but you can do it consistently once you've got the hang of it.

 

[Faeldawn]

Disagree (with origional statement). Bolt Driver is fine just the way it is.

In so many games sniping is a fekkin win button, in PS its a lot more difficult and takes skill and precision.

Shooting moving targets isnt easy, but very satisfying when you save a squad m8 by clipping the guy strafing him

 

[old.Trine Aquavit]

Sniping is fine (and a lot of fun). It takes good tactical awareness and good skill to get kills, but by finding the right sort of spots to snipe from, and having the patience to wait for the right moment to squeeze the trigger you can have success - and get away to live another day.

Once I've got in position with my sniper I can get a decent kill ratio. The biggest problem is getting into position - my sniper is only BR5 (all solo), so I'm pretty vulnerable the rest of the time.

The frustration is generally offset by those few golden moments when you get into a position where you can pick off 3 or 4 targets without them knowing what hit them.

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by old.Trine Aquavit
The frustration is generally offset by those few golden moments when you get into a position where you can pick off 3 or 4 targets without them knowing what hit them.

Base battle on cyssor yesterday vanu had a line of snipers on the base wall. 4 NC snipers (all solo i think) had flanked the base and lined them all up, 4 dead vanu in 20 seconds and they just kept coming Think we clipped 20-30 before they spotted us

 

[Karam_gruul]

another thing i'd like to see is stuff like head shots. having to take 2 shots on near enough any enemy is so frustrating. and its unrealistic.. i reckon if you get a head shot, it should be pretty much a 1 hit kill on any player (except maybe max's). whereas if you get a leg/arm shot it should only take say, 1/4 of the victims health.

oh also, i'd like to see armour peircing bolt driver rounds that'd pwn, taking out max's with a sniper rifle, so good.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Originally posted by old.Dillinja
Feck off nozzer, go listen to some garbage or sumthin

gb2Amazon

 

[ViscountC]

Couldn't agree with Trine more, TBH.

Successful, skillful sniping has god very little to do with nailing one guy between the eyes once - whether he's on the move or not.

You need to hit him *twice*, and then hit his mates, and anyone else that is the wrong colour. Anyone *bright* moves once they've taken the first hit, and if you're sniping from anywhere obvious they'll bring their friends over to you to have a little sniper-wasting party.

So you have to pick your moment, and your location. Ideally not in their line of sight, and not in the obvious places either. And *that's* where the skill comes in.

My current favourite role is counter-sniping. Taking down the enemy snipers who thought they were at a safe and effective vantage point, until they find themselves dead in the dirt with no idea where the bullets came from.

 

[SilverHood]

snipe at 8X zoom at a distance of 200m and you won't have to worry about people coming after you...

 

[Siven]

Sniping is fine as it is.
Needs some degree of patience and skill, which can rule out alot of people so we dont have alot of unskilled snipers around .

PS. Its not THAT hard to hit a moving target

 

[Gray-CF]

im sniping most the time - and i love it just the way it is

 

[Teh Krypt]

Maybe im doing something wrong. But even I can hit a moving target , with ease

 

[Karam_gruul]

na thats bollocks, no one can hit a target meaning to. ok if u fire a shot at someone and hit another guy thats running then yea, but its impossible to do it otherwise.

im a decent enough sniper, get enough kills, just saying i reckon its a bit silly the way its done.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

Erm hate to say this, but they may well just be people who CAN hit moving targets and mean to?

 

[SilverHood]

hitting moving targets aint that hard

 

[bone_idle]

Originally posted by Karam_gruul
na thats bollocks, no one can hit a target meaning to. ok if u fire a shot at someone and hit another guy thats running then yea, but its impossible to do it otherwise.

im a decent enough sniper, get enough kills, just saying i reckon its a bit silly the way its done.

Maybe you dont like it because its realistic ?

 

[Karam_gruul]

but its not realistic is it, if it was realistic you'd have weapon swaying, and you'd be able to hit moving targets.

 

[Spinky]

You can hit moving targets, that's what everyone's trying to get across, I've done it before too, it's not easy at first but it can be done.

 

[bone_idle]

In real life to hit a moving target you would have to aim ahead of it to count for the time the bullet reaches its target. Moving targets should never be easy to hit unless your playing team fortress classic.

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Spinky
You can hit moving targets, that's what everyone's trying to get across, I've done it before too, it's not easy at first but it can be done.

i know u can, by accident

 

[Spinky]

You don't do listen do you, I've intentionally hit a moving target, others have hit moving targets with the intention of shooting that same individual, not by accident, or by any other act of God, they wanted to hit that person, and did just that, if you can't, practice more, and get it right

 

[Karam_gruul]

yea but that was by accident innit

 

[old.pala hellraiser]

Sniper rifle at the moment definately requires a great deal of skill to hit a moving target I don't think anyone is going to dispute that which I think is a good thing, like someone else said this game actually requires some skill to kill with a sniper unlike so many others.

On the other hand, I have found my own experiences from coming up against enemy snipers is that I get shot by one (which hurts ) then all I do is make sure I keep moving in different directions and jump around a bit, I have never been killed using this tactic they always miss... now I don't know if this is due to them being bad snipers... or if it really is practically impossible to hit someone that is running around like an idiot

I know I found it very difficult to snipe moving targets, one little movement and the crosshair opens right out making your accuracy pants. As I don't play a sniper and at the moment I don't really have any problems from them I am inclined to say 'they are fine as they are'

But being honest I think they could do with a bit of 'tweaking' in the way of aiming, so when crouched and moving the crosshair very slowly the crosshair should loose some accuracy and widen although not to the extent that it does at the moment.

This is going to be delicate though as if it was made too easier then all of a sudden there would be snipers everywhere which would ruin the game.

 

[Spinky]

Moving around randomly has always helped against snipers, more so in this where it's difficult enough to hit a moving target. I like that it's difficult to shoot mobile targets, more satisfaction to be gained and less chance of them being hit with the nerfbat (unless of course, the whiny buggers get it changed somehow)


Oh and Karam, act like an idiot all you want, Reading a paper while crossing the road and being hit by a car is an accident, pointing a high powered rifle at someones head and pulling the trigger isn't. Spot the difference .

 

[Karam_gruul]

thats where 1 shot kills should come into play. it'd be sooooooooooo refreshign to take someones face off before they even know they're being targetted.