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Tinyheals

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CLASS CHANGES AND FIXES

General

- Added the Shield Swipe style to the shield line of Warriors, Armsman, and Heros. Shield swipe is a level 41 AE shield attack that does low damage.


O h r l y
AEstyles would become very handy actually, well atleast now,
we'll see about NF. But heavy tanks interrupting boxes and a big amount
of enemies are welcome.

Thanks for more love to Midgard and Hibeneria, so we stand a chance against
the overpowered realm of Albion!!!

Dont still think its a viable reason to group armsmen in the fotmgroups ;(

Discuss!!!!
 

Brunore

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Armsmen will never get a look in because pallys have endregen.

They can block as well as an Armsman and have more to offer teh group with the other chants etc.

Group end regen should have been put on Friars imo.
 

Brunore

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Armsmen will never get a look in because pallys have endregen.

They can block as well as an Armsman and have more to offer teh group with the other chants etc.

Group end regen should have been put on Friars imo.
 

Drav

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Tinyheals said:
the overpowered realm of Albion!!!

lol?

Please explain how an arms are overpowered compared to a Warrior or Hero pls ;)

Or are we just overpowered cos we can actually win battles without relics?

Someone explain it to me seriously, never understood this PoV at all, and dont turn it into the whole Sorc bolt range mezz argument.
 

Das_Hibbie

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Drav said:
lol?

Please explain how an arms are overpowered compared to a Warrior or Hero pls ;)

Or are we just overpowered cos we can actually win battles without relics?

Someone explain it to me seriously, never understood this PoV at all, and dont turn it into the whole Sorc bolt range mezz argument.

Weell to start I'd bet a decent amount of coins that he's ironic :eek:

And can albs actually win battles though? I always think it's the other way around (playing both Hib and Alb).
 

Alithiel

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Alme said:
mercs are overrated, arms ftw!
:twak:

Oh, and when NF comes it's Friars who will be the preferred bodyguards... BG, backup healing, resist buffs and Static Tempest!

Even as a Merc I already prefer the Friar as BG in groups... end chant just cancels my end pot if I happen to end up in range! :rolleyes:
 

[SS]Gamblor

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Brunore said:
Group end regen should have been put on Friars imo.

i was talking about that to my brother last night as it happens.

i was wondering how that would of effected both classes.

As friars havnet' beenw anted in a ideal RvR grp setup for a LOOOOOONG time :(
 

Drav

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Think friars getting an end buff would be nice for them, pala's will hate the idea, but its not like sorcs having crack and mincer pow chant stops either of those classes getting in RvR groups.

If they made them stack it would be even better :) tanks always with end, would be deh roxxor.
 

Tinyheals

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Drav said:
lol?

Please explain how an arms are overpowered compared to a Warrior or Hero pls ;)

Or are we just overpowered cos we can actually win battles without relics?

Someone explain it to me seriously, never understood this PoV at all, and dont turn it into the whole Sorc bolt range mezz argument.

Everything depends on what you compare it with, and yes I was ironic in the previous post.
Actually Armsmen dont have to be so bad, if you compare then straight up with a warrior or hero? It's just harder to fit them into the rvrgroups.
 

[NO]Subedai

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there shuld never of been both an arms and paladin imo. shuld of been merged into 1 class at start.
 

Clipse

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I think on avergae after TOA'd up, Armsmen should have 4000 HPs.
 

Outlaw

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another subtle Alb nerf that requires us all to get really petty and pinickity to spot the obvious. eg. Light Elds having Nearsight. and good DDs. and AE mezz. and a range of insta debuffs. and stun.
 

Outlaw

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[SS]Gamblor said:
i was talking about that to my brother last night as it happens.

i was wondering how that would of effected both classes.

As friars havnet' beenw anted in a ideal RvR grp setup for a LOOOOOONG time :(

too many people following too many shepherds, good players make good groups not good classes. There is always a bit of leeway with atleast 1 member of the group.
 

Aliorm

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Drav said:
Or are we just overpowered cos we can actually win battles without relics?QUOTE]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
 

Aliorm

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Clipse said:
I think on avergae after TOA'd up, Armsmen should have 4000 HPs.
Yeh, and 3pts specs, and autotrain in shield, polearm and parry. and evade V, and haste buff 40% etc et etc xDDD
 

Night

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dont like this aoe interrupt ability on heavy tanks, kinda makes the point of playing a reaver pointless?
 

Dorin

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Night said:
dont like this aoe interrupt ability on heavy tanks, kinda makes the point of playing a reaver pointless?

like arms will get a grp..., dont worry, mythic watching yo.
 

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Outlaw said:
too many people following too many shepherds, good players make good groups not good classes. There is always a bit of leeway with atleast 1 member of the group.

Zoy? :(
 

Spudgie

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Outlaw said:
another subtle Alb nerf that requires us all to get really petty and pinickity to spot the obvious. eg. Light Elds having Nearsight. and good DDs. and AE mezz. and a range of insta debuffs. and stun.
Hibs have the lowest delve DD, at 209. AE Mezz is on same timer as bards, unless you bard is insta-killed this is never used - why give free immunity for <10secs of Mezz, it's not worth being lynched by your group. Void debuffs have same timer and mana str/con shares timer with light dex/qui. Plus give me 1min root anyday. Light eld is a 1 trick pony period.
 

Spudgie

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Tinyheals said:
CLASS CHANGES AND FIXES

General

- Added the Shield Swipe style to the shield line of Warriors, Armsman, and Heros. Shield swipe is a level 41 AE shield attack that does low damage.


O h r l y
AEstyles would become very handy actually, well atleast now,
we'll see about NF. But heavy tanks interrupting boxes and a big amount
of enemies are welcome.
Actually the only reason I could think of where this could be useful is to drop all a casters brittle guards in one swipe. Otherwise chalk it under the no-no mezz breaker header.
 

Lothandar

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Spudgie said:
Hibs have the lowest delve DD, at 209


No, its dark spiritmasters with 183 delve DD.

/irony regarding the oh-so-pointful hib pointing on the 209 oh-so-low DELVE which still hits you for 500-700 depending whether you got debuffed or not.
 

Spudgie

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Lothandar said:
No, its dark spiritmasters with 183 delve DD.

/irony regarding the oh-so-pointful hib pointing on the 209 oh-so-low DELVE which still hits you for 500-700 depending whether you got debuffed or not.
Sorry lowest delve SPEC DD, without any other effects. SM's is a 90% return Lifetap.
 

Dorin

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Spudgie said:
Sorry lowest delve SPEC DD, without any other effects. SM's is a 90% return Lifetap.

droping tears for all those poor hibs with their shit base line stun and lowest delve SPEC DD <omg a horror> :m00:
 

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