lost my bracelet

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lost my bracelet... ever lost anything sentimental?
 

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My old engagement ring, glad I lost it tho
 

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qq.. it sucks :<..

ah well... time to check the clubs to see if anything was handed in.
 

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Memory is sentimental, stuff is not, get a new bracelet and associate memory.
 

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Memory is sentimental, stuff is not, get a new bracelet and associate memory.

It's not the same to me.. I lost a hoodie my x-gf bought me for my 18th birthday and I went out and bought it again, but it's just not the same. I still like it, but it's not the hoodie she gave me
 

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I lost my Dads engagement ring felt really bad about it but i found it again a few years later as I got ready to move.
 

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It's not the same to me.. I lost a hoodie my x-gf bought me for my 18th birthday and I went out and bought it again, but it's just not the same. I still like it, but it's not the hoodie she gave me

All in your mind.

The cloth she fiddled with didn't gain mystical powers, the rings you wear don't get stronger over time and things just can't gain a memory in them.

The hoodie reminds you of the gift she gave you, so treat it as such.
 

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All in your mind.

The cloth she fiddled with didn't gain mystical powers, the rings you wear don't get stronger over time and things just can't gain a memory in them.

The hoodie reminds you of the gift she gave you, so treat it as such.

The human brain does not work like that
 

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All in your mind.

The cloth she fiddled with didn't gain mystical powers, the rings you wear don't get stronger over time and things just can't gain a memory in them.

The hoodie reminds you of the gift she gave you, so treat it as such.


You say things can't gain a memory with them? Isn't that the whole point of an object having sentimental value, with the object there is a memory.
 

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You say things can't gain a memory with them? Isn't that the whole point of an object having sentimental value, with the object there is a memory.

There isn't a memory implanted in the item via some magical form, the memory isn't lost with the item. That's why it can be replaced.
 

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There isn't a memory implanted in the item via some magical form, the memory isn't lost with the item. That's why it can be replaced.

Some of the memory is lost with the item as it is a part of the whole memory..
 

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No because you can't just replace a 80 year old piece of jewellery to attach the memory to. It just does not work like that at all.
 

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No because you can't just replace a 80 year old piece of jewellery to attach the memory to. It just does not work like that at all.

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Perhabs my hoodie was a bad example as I could just go out and buy a new one of the same kind, but you can't replace something unique and combine it with a memory that was linked to another item
 

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lost my bracelet... ever lost anything sentimental?

yes and it really upsets me, I get very attached to my stuff (possibly as a result of having to run away all the time as a chid and leave all my things behind) and if I lose anything I am gutted, breaking stuff is different I usually can patch it up and even if it looks aweful I still have it but when it's lost its gone.
 

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No because you can't just replace a 80 year old piece of jewellery to attach the memory to. It just does not work like that at all.

Maybe not for you, i don't find the sentimental value of an item to be worth anything as the memory remains intact still.

Easy fix to replace item with similar, attach memory to it and the item reminds you of the memory. Done it several times when i've lost something that reminds me of something.

The 80 year old piece ofe jewellery may have monetary value or it may be "unique", but those are not sentimental values and even in many caes where the bracelet is "made by my kid" or some such uniquenes, it can be replaced to remind you.

Sentimental value afterall is just that, "item reminds me of x", which means the reminder can be transferred.

FYI; you can argue it all you want, its my opinion still and i'm not trying to say that you have to think like it.
 

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I have a Ring a Chain and a Neck Chain that i got for 16th 18th and for my exam results. Not one would have cost more than £100 but i would not sell any of them for £1000 due to sentimental value so i really do believe any object can become priceless even if you can replace it.
 

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Exactly, you can't just buy a replacement for those necklaces and pretend they were the originals. (yes I know you can Toh :p)

No one is arguing anything, we all know it's your opinion although you should add that to your sig :p
 

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What makes it so though?

What makes the object irreplaceable?

If a sentimental value is the memory of the object, why can't another object remind of the same thing via a secondary link?

Also, if the item is lost, why NOT buy a replacement item as a reminder? Surely it's better then to lul over the lost item for all eternity(or three days)?
 

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For me its not the Items its the act of being given them. So the Ring as a Ring means fuck all but the ring as a gift from my parents means a lot. It could be because im a sentimental person. But i have lots of stupid bits of Junk that have a story behind them so i will not throw them away.
 

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Because the emotions stirred from the original object cannot be directrly replaced. The reason is simple, it then becomes the "oh yeah that ring reminds me of that other ring that I lost that reminded me of something else". It's just not the same.
 

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For me its not the Items its the act of being given them. So the Ring as a Ring means fuck all but the ring as a gift from my parents means a lot. It could be because im a sentimental person. But i have lots of stupid bits of Junk that have a story behind them so i will not throw them away.

Exactly it's the whole story behind an object, which makes the memory more touching whether it's good or bad.
 

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FYI; you can argue it all you want, its my opinion still and i'm not trying to say that you have to think like it.
+rep.. We are all entitled to our own opinions and the rep I gave you was ment to say more, but accidently hit the enter button >_<
 

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For me its not the Items its the act of being given them. So the Ring as a Ring means fuck all but the ring as a gift from my parents means a lot. It could be because im a sentimental person. But i have lots of stupid bits of Junk that have a story behind them so i will not throw them away.

Oh i have junk too, kept a lot of stuff and i do get sentimental value, just that losing any number of these items wouldn't 'cause me to go more then "oh poo" and if the item is available somewhere, i replace it and think no more. It's the same item, only restored to previous glory :p

Though then again, if i lose/brake something that is irrepleasable, i don't go much more then "oh poo" either.

Because the emotions stirred from the original object cannot be directrly replaced. The reason is simple, it then becomes the "oh yeah that ring reminds me of that other ring that I lost that reminded me of something else". It's just not the same.

Depends on the item i think. There aren't many items around that can't be changed, even replicated to the original item.

I think there's a bit of a placebo(or some such) effect there, and humans do have this weird habbit of creating relationships to inanimate objects.
 

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Oh i have junk too, kept a lot of stuff and i do get sentimental value, just that losing any number of these items wouldn't 'cause me to go more then "oh poo" and if the item is available somewhere, i replace it and think no more. It's the same item, only restored to previous glory :p

Though then again, if i lose/brake something that is irrepleasable, i don't go much more then "oh poo" either.

Nothing you say is wrong i think it comes down to what you value an item or its story / history. Like i said my box of junk is just that a box of junk but what is good is that junk reminds me of x y or z. So replacing something in that box with a different item would not have the same story to me.

I do not think there is a wrong or right here just personal preference.
 

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There's nothing weird about it though considering it's what the majority of the human race do. It is clearly weird to you, but I can understand why people are attached to objects, because it reminds them of something/someone that they felt emotion for.


It's like music, you hear song's from when you were growing up, possibly in a relationship and you get a flicker (most times subconsciously) of emotions good or bad that stir from the song, you can't just replace that song with a different song. Because it's a part of your own lifes story.
 

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