Lost a few fights!

[Bowie]

Well to be honest I took a break from Thid forra little while cos of the nastiness that was shown towards me eventually upset me. But on returning there have been some major changes in Thid for sure. For one thing am pretty sure you have level 50s and your friend who helped me. I think the vast majority of players in Thid now are the same and are showing a maturity that has been sadly lacking uptil now in Thid.

Since returning I have had people try and fight like me and ask for advice yet I thought every bugger wasn't bothering to watch my fights at all. Seems I was wrong. Thid is becoming a nicer place to fight in and Freddysworld is not so nasty as it once was towards me or anyone else for that matter. Why? Obvious level 50 lads are playing now all the time.

By the way wot you think of me taking out that Luri? - Tudor? Unbuffed and hitting like a pussy. Take it from me I can do a lot better!

But you mentioned yu did lose to Kinivin once - and he is none other than Commandment - Thugs wannabee!

Well i did lose 1 fight on alb bridge to Kinivin, tbh i think due to a graf-cornor bug. I dont say he couldent have won ! i just say i couldent target, and then its hard to hit back.

I think u did well in da fight realy, and i am sure u a good player in genneral. I dont see myself as anything special realy, i am lucky to win a few fights some times thats all, i just have fun playing Coolit in thid atm.

And finaly : yea i do have a few lvl 50, i think 8 all in all ( a few on alb exal ) my Ranger is rr 6 L2 and the rest about rr 5 ( the rvr once) and the Luri that helped u have a , i think rr 8L5 bard ...

Cya out there m8y

 

[Thugs]

Ah

Met yu once already. Attacked you but a mincer added that mezzed you. I continued to hit you but you moved to the mincer which made a lotta sense to me. Dropped you but hell your weapon was proccing on me something awful and I had zero spell resist! Taped the fight infact. Eh you died before me but hardly counts cos you attacked the mincer instead. Since then I have boosted my spell resists cos your weapon procs were destroying me totally and so were the reavers spells.

Hard to say how I will do against buffed players cos it can go well or it can go incredibly badly where I miss over and over. Take away the buffs and that doesn't happen. Players in BG shouldn't be able to buff lets face it cos it just spoils any sort of balance.

 

[Commandment]

True i might be a thugs wannabee ... (kinivin) is a thugs wanabee .. commandment is my chanter on hib/excal ... would like to have another duel m8 ... as for the duel where u waited on my health near mb in thugs's vid .... are u sure a hunter added ? ... and i did get killspam i think.

 

[Chronictank]

If you are referring to Ravenscroft then to play as a buffed sb is at least 2x as hard as playing as a buffed inf!

Its not.
Played both, unbuffed makes marginal difference.

chronicstrike 24 sb mid/excal
chronicstrike 24 ex-infi alb/pry (re-rolled as mincer)

Stealthers are by far the easiest class in thidranki so gloating about one just makes you look stupid

 

[Thugs]

Oh?

Try playing unbuffed as a Kob stealther m8 and see how you do?

Difference between an inf and an sb? Bout 2-3x the damage from an inf at least when armed with both weapons!

I hit for 26-7 on a buffed inf using pillager and 3.1 speed weapons - 25 in axe! He can garote me back using wotever for over 100 a time on mainhand! If he used slash moves he will still get close to a hundred on mainhand. I hit him for less than his offhand!

Everyone knows how gimped an sb is compared to an inf m8 so don't give me that rubbish!

As for playing in easy mode just try and play like I do and that is unbuffed with pathetic damage yet attacking everybloody thing that crosses my path and see how you fare then!

 

[Thugs]

Cruel Pally fight

Mentioned I played wivva pally cruelly well here is the fight.

Poor bugger didn't know wot to do and I would have let him go but for the caster starting on me.

I know you gonna say he was in free gear etc but I got loads of other films here against buffed nutters. Gonna make a long film soon!

File size 4 mbs

Cruel pally fight!
Hehe you gotta admit me getting better all the time eh?

Think this one took a hit offa hunter close to the end but I reckon she would have dropped anyways!
Buffed Luri

 

[Bowie]

True i might be a thugs wannabee ... (kinivin) is a thugs wanabee .. commandment is my chanter on hib/excal ... would like to have another duel m8 ... as for the duel where u waited on my health near mb in thugs's vid .... are u sure a hunter added ? ... and i did get killspam i think.

Yea i am 100 % sure. I was on 30 - 40 % hp when suddently bang i was ded and i scrooled up to see ur wild crit, or what ever hit me and i saw some landing arrows on me. And no u didnt get killspam.

 

[Chronictank]

Try playing unbuffed as a Kob stealther m8 and see how you do?

No ty i prefer crit blade hybrids to melee battles, kobbie has higher dex so evades more, better equipped for melee battles. I assume youre not a crit blade as you seem to kill things.

Difference between an inf and an sb? Bout 2-3x the damage from an inf at least when armed with both weapons!

Difference is mostly accunted by relics/equipment/buffs. A well specced sb has a descent chance of dropping a inf ableit the inf having a slight advantage. You chose a gimp race dmgwise and make up for it in evades ~(appaently from my lvl 50 friends who have kobbie sbs) so dont try the im so underpowered bullshit

I hit for 26-7 on a buffed inf using pillager and 3.1 speed weapons - 25 in axe! He can garote me back using wotever for over 100 a time on mainhand! If he used slash moves he will still get close to a hundred on mainhand. I hit him for less than his offhand!

garotte is a style in the crit line so is not subject to the la penalty you will hit him for 80ish if you used it. Using 2h on evade styles also sways the balance consderably.
Aswell as the fact that you can use 2h on youre opener

Everyone knows how gimped an sb is compared to an inf m8 so don't give me that rubbish!

You are talking rubbish, lvl 50 even with buffs you can make up for the cleric AF using a charge, rest is based on equipment. 80% the fights are based on who gets crit 1st unless you are shadow zerker spec in which case you have gimped yourself by default.

As for playing in easy mode just try and play like I do and that is unbuffed with pathetic damage yet attacking everybloody thing that crosses my path and see how you fare then!

I never am buffed on stealthers, i dont find it a challenge. Land crit you pretty much won the fight.

 

[Thugs]

Ah right

M8y you ain't never played an sb so leave it. You are talking utter bullshit!

When an sb holds 2 weapons the la effect kicks in full stop. You can pick your bloody nose with your mainhand weapon and the la effect kicks in. Wotever styles you do are affected so your damage is shite wotever you try if you have 2 weapons in your hands.

2 handed weapons cause the inf to evade more not less! Tis one of the reasons I never hang onto the sodding thing. I use it for one hit and get back to 2 weapons to reduce the evades.

You really don't know anything about playing an sb m8 and I am sure someone apart from me will put you straight on the garbage you have posted above.

I gotta film here - Weaklin against Morindin the inf - a setup duel. My mainhand hit him for about 30-35 using pillager and he hit me for 140 mainhand using garote. I killed the bugger anyways but that is because I do things that are unusual to increase damage. Got the film if you want to see it. Duel where both were unbuffed!

 

[Chronictank]

M8y you ain't never played an sb so leave it. You are talking utter bullshit!

http://daoc-stats.com/search.php?q=chronicstrike&type=char&server=Excalibur

my latest re-roll

When an sb holds 2 weapons the la effect kicks in full stop. You can pick your bloody nose with your mainhand weapon and the la effect kicks in. Wotever styles you do are affected so your damage is shite wotever you try if you have 2 weapons in your hands.

Apologies this is wrong, just checked but misread sumin i saw earlier on vn boards.

2 handed weapons cause the inf to evade more not less! Tis one of the reasons I never hang onto the sodding thing. I use it for one hit and get back to 2 weapons to reduce the evades.

Since you seem to ignore most the sentance ill post it again

Using 2h on evade styles also sways the balance consderably.
Aswell as the fact that you can use 2h on youre opener

You really don't know anything about playing an sb m8 and I am sure someone apart from me will put you straight on the garbage you have posted above.

Neither do you if youre whole tactic is to spam pillager

I gotta film here - Weaklin against Morindin the inf - a setup duel. My mainhand hit him for about 30-35 using pillager and he hit me for 140 mainhand using garote. I killed the bugger anyways but that is because I do things that are unusual to increase damage. Got the film if you want to see it. Duel where both were unbuffed!

Pillager is a right axe style if youre using this throughout the fight i am amazed you win anything since you are only hitting with one axe.
So you won and you still whine sbs are underpowered and these so called tricks which noone else aparently has discovered

 

[Thugs]

Yup

Whine?

Morindin had killed every bloody stealther he had come across and bragged about it over and over taunting me.

I am the only stealther that can consistantly kill other stealthers when so badly gimped m8. How can I do this? I tell you why. No I won't cos it is too complicated. So complicated that you can't even see it and work it out in my videos. Tis why no-other bugger has been able to do the things I have and I am improving all the time.

Spam styles? Nope pillager is more or less my poison application move. Plunderer is with a 2 handed weapon and the damage isn't la nerfed then is it. But I can hit from one side of a fighter using 2 weapons and hit them from the other side using plunderer and the 2 handed. I don't think that move has ever been seen before. There are other things I do that are very unique m8.

 

[Chronictank]

ah so lag abuse by self admission
its been around alot longer than you have and various people have used it religiously, i personally dont like it as i regard it the same as running through..
Trying sword spec this time round as i have dont crit blade and axe/la already

each to their own

just so u know, i have never died 1 on 1 to any other stealther on my sb either. Difference is i dont go round bragin about it as it isnt a great achievement imo

 

[Thugs]

Lag abuse?

Like I said you can't understand wot I do but it is not lag abusing. Instead of trying to understand things you lot automatically acuse me of cheating! Is it any wonder why I get so annoyed?

This is wot I was referring to above:

1. Hit from one side of a player using 2 weapons and pillager (1st part of weapon combination move).
2. Run-through them (not lag abusing)
3. Whilst running through swap weapon to 2 handed.
4. Turn
5. Hit with the 2 hander from the other side using the plunderer (2nd part of the weapon combination move).

That is wot I can do if I see the need.

The above is carried out in the time I have from pillager to plunderer which is a very very short time.

 

[Chronictank]

as said
i never at any point said its cheating. Its just shitty coding allowing people from the enemy realm run through you. Same way well timed run throughs foil a qcast/moc.
Same as geting mobs to hit erines (sp?) to make it proc and making you spell immune, not a cheat but a bug used to win fights.

If /face was made server side youre tactic wouldnt work, you know this aswell as i. All the pala had to do was walk backward and mouse look, or engage your endbar away

 

[Thugs]

I C

Oh so if you try and walk backwards away from me I am crap then?

Sorry m8y even that won't work cos I will kill most things face to face no problem.

There ain't shit you can do against me really but you will win at times if you are buffed cos it causes me to miss greatly. That is the only thing that kills me really. Other than that you can try walking backwards if you want but believe me I outdamage buffed sbs from the front.

 

[Chronictank]

and you still claim sbs are the underpowered unbuffed?
on what basis?

edit: dont take it personally since it isnt an attack on you, im just tierd of people claiming that the difference between the 2 is so substancial in thidranki when it is not

 

[Thugs]

Why?

Because if I didn't do the things I have to do (and believe me they are so hard to carry out that it makes my game play extremely hard going) and fought as other stealthers I couldn't kill a blue con caster in a melee duel! Wot you are looking at in my videos is nearly 3 years of playing an sb and working things out over and over. Dozens of sbs in Thid. Full crit sb taken to 50 and a full la one too. Both taken to 50 to analyze moves and damage. Both found to be utterly crap. My sbs in Thid are weird in the extreme. No-one with any sort of sense would even attempt to play like I do now. It isn't cheating but it isn't how the game designers thought an sb should play like either am pretty sure of that.

Damage wise pound for pound sbs are terrible and awfully frustrating to play as opposed to the other stealthers.

By the way I retired my buffed PKJ Valkyn sb undefeated for 900 rps! Imagine if I played as an inf?

 

[Chronictank]

i didnt deny infi isnt better
retired my sb at 1l9 pre-nf b4 rerolling once again and losing interest in the stealth zergs on excal (valkyn also for melee resists). but i played infi to see the other side of the coin, and they are not as far as people make out unbuffed thats all im saying

 

[Thugs]

Unbuffed

Totally agree with you. Why? The af buff isn't reducing our damage even further but still our slash weak armour and the la nerf make infs far superior.

The 2 handed weapon? Nah you want to kill infs regularly it will let you down eventually where you miss or they evade and then you are faced with a huge delay.

I utilize the la nerf to be in my favour by swapping during the pillager/plunderer combo from 2 weapons to a 2 handed. I can get those 2 hits off very quickly instead of one big garote.

See even though I am explaining the things I do will it make any difference to you? Just try out the move I mentioned above. See if you can master that!

 

[Chronictank]

will do if i have a respec on my sb left

 

[AhoyHoy]

Even in thidranki 2h's arent worth it. I killed a buffed Sb using mourning rage with my unbuffed reaver pretty easily. ( Sb was called styggve or something ) , whereas a buffed Sb using 1handers would own me. In fact, I actually won a fight against 2 unbuffed Sbs using crafted 2handed cleavers, so even as an SB, and i had one on excal many moons ago in Thid, its better to use 2 weapons than 1.

 

[Rediknight]

Because everyone hates a archer simply because theres so bloody many of u. archers and assassins.. should have a pop lock on those 2 classes in thid...

as it is now theres more stealthers in thid then theres "visible" classes all together...

/agree

Im playing a hunter though for several reasons, and as soon as i level him far enough, hes outta there... though thats gonna take me months, seein as i pwn at being pwnd by scimitar cats :'(

anyways, i've got me a ickle runey, a ickle skald and a baby dark sm (on advice from another person whos name escapes me... sorry other person ) and all are bein' quipped with nothin but the rewards from trainers when you /level to twenty, kellehers crapola stuff, and any i can quest for at that level... so no TOA, no buffs, no real skill to speak of, and an attention span so short i can... oooh, look, a bee...

<wanders off>

 

[Thugs]

Face down

anyways, i've got me a ickle runey, a ickle skald and a baby dark sm (on advice from another person whos name escapes me... sorry other person ) and all are bein' quipped with nothin but the rewards from trainers when you /level to twenty, kellehers crapola stuff, and any i can quest for at that level... so no TOA, no buffs, no real skill to speak of, and an attention span so short i can... oooh, look, a bee...

Think you will be looking at beetles and worms a lot more than bees - face down in Thid!

 

[Thugs]

Vids

Seems some of you have been visiting my site hoping to download my DAOC fights? Ain't really thought of doing that but why not. Will look into it.

Still no-one got my first 'King of Thid' film with PKJ? Damn shame I can't get that one back!

 

[Rediknight]

Think you will be looking at beetles and worms a lot more than bees - face down in Thid!

/cowers before t3h m!gHtah \/\/uNN!

who cares? my social life does tend to get in the way of playing computer games once in a while

i win IRL

 

[Thegreatest]

Stop that m8. You been doing fine and got my respect - plenty infact but always speak the truth.

1st encounter - I killed a sorc and then attacked you. You should have died but another sorc finished me off - fight was taped m8.

2nd time was a proper fight and I was very very surprised you killed me cos it was a genuine one vs one. Total respect off that one which is enough to satisfy me with regard to you as a player - again taped I think.

3rd time I attempted to run off so we wouldn't fight but you followed and killed me - taped again though not to sure about that one.

Really boils down to 2x - one in your favour and one in mine - balanced.

Keep in mind though I normally play a Norse and this Kob is a lot more naff (a Norse sb unbuffed is naff too though not as bad)

all the same again and again and again...

4rd time my mom entered my little child room and farted, that made me unable to see any damn thing thats how you killed me

5th time my mom entered the room again, she said it was milk time...You know I love milk, so I ran towards my mom, gave her a kiss and started drinking my bloody delicious milk! Thats why you won.

6th time well this time you were really really lucky mate...at the middle of the fight I had to fart and you know I had just eaten some bad shit and I couldnt resist the smell...so I got like stunned for 60 seconds, thats how you could beat me

7th time ehh what happened this time...ehh let me think please...ehh wait..oh yes I know!! this time my dog entered the room shitting all over the place...you know I had to clean it cause my mom would spank me if she saw that

now stfu Thugs.

ehh and by the way before you start saying "oohhhh aint you that <insert random character name> <insert random character class> that I killed 3 times in a row" I'll tell you, I haven't played for 3 months and I won't return so I really don't care. I just check this forums now and then to see how it's going with the community, but I got sick of seeing your topics all over the place.

 

[Thugs]

Sick of topics?

Nothing new there then!

 

[Thugs]

Films

Gonna be opening a few forums on my site in the next few days. Wasn't gonna bother but it might be a laugh. Will store my films on the site too. Not sure forums are a good thing though cos this site of mine is an all day affair as it is. Am looking like shite trying to get it sorted. But there will come a time when it will be ready to market and I only have to maintain it after that - I bloody well hope. Got so many companies wanting to get on there that tis bonkers. Forums are quite nice ones and will look like this one I suppose. Will see how it works out cos I not sure I can find the time to run them. If I do run them I gonna put all the worthwhile daoc related stuff for you to be able to download - like sc calculators etc.

Yah can piss me off on my own forum then!

Me flipping tiring site!

 

[Dommelsch]

Hi I Liek Pie Juu Leik Pie Too Tughs Mejt

 

[Rookiescot]

Gonna be opening a few forums on my site in the next few days. Wasn't gonna bother but it might be a laugh. Will store my films on the site too. Not sure forums are a good thing though cos this site of mine is an all day affair as it is. Am looking like shite trying to get it sorted. But there will come a time when it will be ready to market and I only have to maintain it after that - I bloody well hope. Got so many companies wanting to get on there that tis bonkers. Forums are quite nice ones and will look like this one I suppose. Will see how it works out cos I not sure I can find the time to run them. If I do run them I gonna put all the worthwhile daoc related stuff for you to be able to download - like sc calculators etc.

Yah can piss me off on my own forum then!

Me flipping tiring site!

WOOT !!!!! Thugs will have his very own forum all to himself !!!
Great news Thugs mate.
Now go piss off and post on your own forum and dont come back here.