looking to update my grfx for wow

[souldrinker]

atm i have

2600+ amd athlon xp
512 ddr
fx5200 128mb
120gb hd

im not the best to do with hardware but im thinking tht the 5200 is putting my pc down and im thinking of getting a 9600xt as ive heard its quite gd and i cba to spend 130 quid on a 9800 pro =p

can i have some advice plz

btw my mobo has a 8x agp slot but using onboard sound =/

 

[Lian]

I am not sure you need to upgrade your gfx card, WoW does not seem to be too gfx intensive. I did not have any problems with a far lower system than yours and 4200ti.

 

[Fana]

9600xt is a good card, altho the 9800pro is definetly best bang-for-the-buck you can get. But a 9600xt will likely play wow just fine.

Alternatively, stick another 512 ram in the machine.

 

[souldrinker]

a hardware question

my mobo can support 2 dimm ddr 400 ram chips but when looking at ram it says like pc2700 or something like tht how can i find out wht pc my mobo can handle?

 

[behatch]

i dont know weather i'll need too change my geforce 5800fx ,got it as a replacement for a 9800pro which was broken and it seems really crappy...3-4 players on cs will make the fps jump down too 80ish.....but yeah everyones been saying wow isnt a strain on graphics

 

[behatch]

a hardware question

my mobo can support 2 dimm ddr 400 ram chips but when looking at ram it says like pc2700 or something like tht how can i find out wht pc my mobo can handle?

im not pc expert but i think most 400's are pc 3200 ? :touch:

 

[Nausilus^^]

Currently running with:
p4 3ghz
1gb ddr ram pc3200
radeon 9000 pro 128mb
80gb harddrive

All graphics turned as high up as possible, and I have 0 lag. Hope you can use that info for your dessicion.

 

[Fana]

im not pc expert but i think most 400's are pc 3200 ? :touch:

Yep, 400mhz memory = pc3200

If your current stick is a pc2700 you can usually mix it with a higher one, but not always - check your mb documentation, or see if you can still buy pc2700 memory (should be very cheap if you can find it).

 

[souldrinker]

where did u find out the info tht 400 mhz is 3200? for me for the future

 

[behatch]

where did u find out the info tht 400 mhz is 3200? for me for the future

my brain musta just picked it up : )

but www.google.com will find whatever you need

 

[Vasconcelos]

No probs here with a Winfast 128 4200ti and 1gb ram (CPU is a tweaked amd xp 1700+). My comp has 2years+ and handled wow us open beta smooth.

 

[Whisperess]

I am not sure you need to upgrade your gfx card, WoW does not seem to be too gfx intensive. I did not have any problems with a far lower system than yours and 4200ti.

The 5200 is the bastard stepchild of "progress" that NVidia spat out trying to catch up to ATI. The ti4200 is actually "better" than the 5200.

That being said, it's quite fluent on a Gainward 6600GT GLH. (givh 6800GT/Ultra as PCIe model )

 

[Ralgedi Smurf]

Its run perfect on my system in 1600x1200 with all stuff on max with a GF 4200, so i guess its not your GFX there is the bottleneck if it runs bad

 

[Lian]

The 5200 is the bastard stepchild of "progress" that NVidia spat out trying to catch up to ATI. The ti4200 is actually "better" than the 5200.

That being said, it's quite fluent on a Gainward 6600GT GLH. (givh 6800GT/Ultra as PCIe model )

Ah yes, forgot about NVidia's tendency to take a step back with the first model of the new number series. I had a MX model before this one that was slower than a Geforce2..

I do have 1Gb of RAM, and i am guessing that will make more of difference than a gfx card.

 

[Escape]

I wouldn't upgrade to a 9600XT. Save up a little more money for something better, or buy something else

6600GTs are about £150 and will be fine for WoW. Else look for a 9800Pro on ebay/local papers... should be a few of those going cheap now.

 

[Sycho]

atm i have

2600+ amd athlon xp
512 ddr
fx5200 128mb
120gb hd

im not the best to do with hardware but im thinking tht the 5200 is putting my pc down and im thinking of getting a 9600xt as ive heard its quite gd and i cba to spend 130 quid on a 9800 pro =p

can i have some advice plz

btw my mobo has a 8x agp slot but using onboard sound =/

9600xt isn't that as good as 9700 pro which is around £100 now or even better go for 6600GT for £145.

 

[scrow]

atm i have

2600+ amd athlon xp
512 ddr
fx5200 128mb
120gb hd

im not the best to do with hardware but im thinking tht the 5200 is putting my pc down and im thinking of getting a 9600xt as ive heard its quite gd and i cba to spend 130 quid on a 9800 pro =p

can i have some advice plz

btw my mobo has a 8x agp slot but using onboard sound =/

1800+ 512mb ram, ti4200. All more then 2 years old, runs WoW like a charm. Only some lag in the main citys but who cares.

You dont have to buy a new gfx card to play wow....WoW actually runs much much better then DaoC ever did

 

[nick]

Add another 512MB ram and upgrade your CPU. Those will make a larger difference than getting a better gfx card.

 

[Sinnica]

exactly what nick said.
and oh, get PCI-E if you are upgrading gfx

 

[Solid]

Wait till around february, buy a SLI mobo and get a 6600GT SLI enabled card instead, thats futureproofed you for around 4 years then (just buy an additional card when u can afford and run in SLI mode for uber duber GFX potentials)

I will prolly just leave my junky old system as is for anotehr 6 months and upgrade to an SLI AMD64 .90 nm CPU setup then when prices drop a little.

Currently running AMD Athlon XP 1700+ and 64mb Geforce 3 ti200 without any issues in WoW \o>

 

[Hendrich]

If I am correct the 5200 was suppose to be a step up to support DX9, where the 4200 series was a DX8 card. Overall the 4200 still out performs the nvidia 5xxx seris cards. Best bang for the buck is ati 9800 pro+, uses 9800xt chipset instead of the 9800 pro chipset.

 

[Sinnica]

Currently running AMD Athlon XP 1700+ and 64mb Geforce 3 ti200 without any issues in WoW \o>

same, but 1600+
getting a 3+ghz soon tho

 

[unseelie]

i dont know weather i'll need too change my geforce 5800fx ,got it as a replacement for a 9800pro which was broken and it seems really crappy...3-4 players on cs will make the fps jump down too 80ish.....but yeah everyones been saying wow isnt a strain on graphics

i'm not an expert on these things, but 80fps?

do you know your tv is 24fps? anything other than that is too fast for the human brain to handle and we don't notice any difference.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Not entirely true Unseelie

http://amo.net/NT/02-21-01FPS.html

 

[behatch]

i'm not an expert on these things, but 80fps?

do you know your tv is 24fps? anything other than that is too fast for the human brain to handle and we don't notice any difference.

i was actually whinging about how i felt for a 5/6 year old game i'd exspect 100fps perma...

i know about all this human eye = 60 fps and what not.

hence why vsync limits you too 60 fps,or thats what i allways thought.

Plus i am pretty confident i could reconize the difference between 65fps and 100.Must be my glasses

 

[Solid]

hmm if FPS is similar to refresh rates on monitors, I can notice 60, 75 and 85 hz on monitor refreshes, only 100+ is flicker free for me, so if same applies for FPS then I will hapilly take the 80+ anyday, and omg if u cannot notice the flicker on TV's ur eyes are lazy!!!

 

[unseelie]

like i said, no expert

that is an interesting link, fuzzy.

ok, i'll rephrase it a little. if the human brain can piece together 24fps to make it seem like a continuous stream, i don't think you should be concerned at 80fps

it seems the reason that higher fps are needed on computers are to do with the way monitors/graphic cards 'draw' the images. i agree, 60Hz sucks, but i run my computer at 85Hz and see no probs. if i bump it up further than that the image seems to be less defined to me than at 85Hz. you don't happen to have any cool links for that, fuzzy? maybe that is the threshold limit for my poor crappy eyes and they can't keep up

excuse me, i'm off to corner my old physics lecturer and leave him in a pool of blood - just as soon as i sort my qbar out.

 

[unseelie]

hmm if FPS is similar to refresh rates on monitors, I can notice 60, 75 and 85 hz on monitor refreshes, only 100+ is flicker free for me, so if same applies for FPS then I will hapilly take the 80+ anyday, and omg if u cannot notice the flicker on TV's ur eyes are lazy!!!

on the contary, if you can't piece together the frames of the tv to make it seem like it is continuous, then your brain can't be very good at filling in the gaps no offense meant, of course.

 

[Starman]

I have a P4 3GHz, 9800SE Softmodded, 1024MB Ram - runs fine here at 1024 with max settings.

 

[Lumikki]

AMD Athlon XP 2000+, Ati Radeon 9700, 512DDR, The game ran like a dream