Looking for Royal Assasin parts...

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Lomald Umilinn

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You selling any part?
Send me a pm in game or here at BW and we can discuss it, or tell me a price =).
 
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Galiryn

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urhm, did you post this today ? just so you know 2 pieces of that dropped on the sidi raid today




oh wait, you were there with us
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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Yes i was with you .. but our guilds gimpy /random turned out to pick loo as LAST of all ... do you think i got a chance on those 2 parts ;)?

no way :D
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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And .. btw that raid was not Class only random ..... in that case i would have had a chance :>

our guild got the gimpy 1hnd crush mace, and the 150 ablative charge (allways wonderd this one :p).

Dunno when royals were picked, but we got what was left over :p
 
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Jergiot

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varför har du så mycket pengar ge mig lite för fan x[
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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säg vad du vill ha så ska vi se vad vi kan göra åt saken :)
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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anyway, very gimped position to get into a lotto =P
besides i have a screenshot where my /random 100 turned out to this:
You pick a random number between 1 and 100: 1

ffs its like 1% chance to get 1 and 100 :>
we were not lucky yesterday ;)
 
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vintervargen

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ffs, i did /random 100 and got 68!! omg its like 1% chance to get 68!! ^^
 
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Ekydus

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Didn't know Hibernians came on Albion hunts nowadays...
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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you are so wrong Vintervargen.

The actually chance to get 1 or 100 out of a random generator is 1% .. the chance to get a number between 30 and 70 is a LOT more % chance to get.

Learn your discrete mathematics before you try to correct me :p

Edit: To give you a simple example .. roll dices .. the chance to get number 3 or 4 is easier to roll then get number 1 or 6 ... Would take to much pages to explain this .... all i can tell you is .. study mathematics ;)
 
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xenny

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Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
you are so wrong Vintervargen.

The actually chance to get 1 or 100 out of a random generator is 1% .. the chance to get a number between 30 and 70 is a LOT more % chance to get.

Learn your discrete mathematics before you try to correct me :p

Edit: To give you a simple example .. roll dices .. the chance to get number 3 or 4 is easier to roll then get number 1 or 6 ... Would take to much pages to explain this .... all i can tell you is .. study mathematics ;)

lmfao not on a fair dice

if u rolling 2 dice then that is different :p
 
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Ekydus

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This is a computer program. It is programmed to be more difficult to reach the higher numbers.
There isn't some employee at the other end rolling a few dice for you. :p
 
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xenny

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Originally posted by Ekydus
This is a computer program. It is programmed to be more difficult to reach the higher numbers.
There isn't some employee at the other end rolling a few dice for you. :p

but lomald said its easier to roll a 3 and a 4 on a dice ;)
 
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Ekydus

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"dices" = plural (even though plural for dice is die(sp?))

So he's right i'm afraid.
 
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Pin

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1) The plural is 'dice', the singluar is 'die', 'dices' is not a word
2) There is a 1/6 chance to get a 1 when you roll a die
3) There is a 1/6 chance to get a 3 when you roll a die
4) There is a 1/6 chance to get a 6 when you roll a die
5) There is a 1% chance to get a 1 in a /random 100
6) There is a 1% chance to get a 2 in a /random 100
7) There is a 1% chance to get a 3 in a /random 100
8) There is a 1% chance to get a 30 in a /random 100
9) There is a 1% chance to get a 68 in a /random 100
10) There is a 1% chance to get a 100 in a /random 100
11) The mace is actually very good if you are a 1h crush tank (lifedrain proc)
12) I don't have any Royal Assassin's armour for sale :p
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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well .... only one answer to you pin .. i will find you a link where you can read about discrete mathematics :).

I'll try to make a short statement why ;)

if you have 10 numbers (lets say 1-10 .. or 0-9)
and you order them like this:
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

you can even have 100 numbers, or 1000 numbers, or 23987498 numbers ... the chance to get the highest or the lowest is not even close to the chance to get somewhere in between.

If you sake your high school math and calcuates the % chanses ... pin is right... but if you know of discrete mathematics pin is wrong ... simply becuase the % to hit the bottom, or hit the roof is much lower then hit something in the middle.

Since i've read a few of ´these at School of Higher Education i can give you tonz of books where studies have stated that you can't use common mathematic formulas to calcuate the % chance given to roll a dice, or pick a random number.

Why is this? Simply becuase the mathematic formula to calcuate % is only correct within mathematical use .. it's however not in anyway correct if you look at practical use. This is why you should learn about Discrete Mathematics to find out how formulas are correct as long as you only use it in mathematics (theoretically), put it in use practically (practically) and you very fast find out that it's about 50% chance that you will get a random number from the middle of your string =).

Make any sence? Sure hope so ;)
 
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Ekydus

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Bah I knew I was wrong... :(

That's what 30 minutes worth of sleep does to you.
 
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xenny

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so ur telling me that if i roll my dice irl that is completely perfect in every way that i will roll 3 and 4 more than 1 and 6?
 
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Pin

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Anyway... Rather than just being condescending, I'll attempt to make sense of what you are trying to say and point out why you are wrong.


I'll stick with dice for the following as I hope you are familiar enough with them.

If you roll a single (fair) die just once, there is an equal chance for it to land on any of its sides. That is a 1 in 6 chance of being a 1, or a 2, or a 3, or a 4, or a 5, or a 6.

If you roll the same die again, there is an equal chance for it to land on any of its sides. That is a 1 in 6 chance of being a 1, or a 2, or a 3, or a 4, or a 5, or a 6.

Those are two discrete events, giving independent results.

Now, if you take the sum of those results, there is a higher chance of the sum being 7 than it being 2 or 12. This means that the mean of two independent rolls has a higher chance of being 3 or 4 than it does of being 1 or 6, but does not mean that there is a higher chance of rolling a 3 or 4 than a 1 or 6 with a single independent roll of a die.


Go back and read your books again please.
 
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parlain

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Originally posted by Lomald Umilinn
well .... only one answer to you pin .. i will find you a link where you can read about discrete mathematics :).

I'll try to make a short statement why ;)

if you have 10 numbers (lets say 1-10 .. or 0-9)
and you order them like this:
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

you can even have 100 numbers, or 1000 numbers, or 23987498 numbers ... the chance to get the highest or the lowest is not even close to the chance to get somewhere in between.

If you sake your high school math and calcuates the % chanses ... pin is right... but if you know of discrete mathematics pin is wrong ... simply becuase the % to hit the bottom, or hit the roof is much lower then hit something in the middle.

Since i've read a few of ´these at School of Higher Education i can give you tonz of books where studies have stated that you can't use common mathematic formulas to calcuate the % chance given to roll a dice, or pick a random number.

Why is this? Simply becuase the mathematic formula to calcuate % is only correct within mathematical use .. it's however not in anyway correct if you look at practical use. This is why you should learn about Discrete Mathematics to find out how formulas are correct as long as you only use it in mathematics (theoretically), put it in use practically (practically) and you very fast find out that it's about 50% chance that you will get a random number from the middle of your string =).

Make any sence? Sure hope so ;)

Theorectial Statistic Chance of you beating Pin in a stats fight, standard, discrete, fractal or otherwise = a number that tends towards 0 ;)
 
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Ekydus

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Pin; Lomald did say that this deviates from normal rules that were taught in high school. It's a theory that doesn't necessarily work in practical use. Whatever you put down doesn't really matter if it's only a theory. However, if Lomald just plain sucks at explaining then I stand corrected. As for that landing a 3 or a 4 over a 6 thing I said above; like I said I am very tired because I just can't sleep on Sunday nights and I knew that there was a connection somewhere. :p
 
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xenny

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Originally posted by parlain
Theorectial Statistic Chance of you beating Pin in a stats fight, standard, discrete, fractal or otherwise = a number that tends towards 0 ;)

lmfao at this :p

agreed pin,
random 100 is a random number from 1-100
not 2 random50's added together, two random 50's would be the only way 2 explain lomald's kerazy theory ;)
 
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Ekydus

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Might I add there is no actual way to program a random event. There are ways to go about programming a random event such as /random 100... but these have to be based around something. Think about it. You may just program it into the computer as "Random" followed by instructions, but the "Random" needs instructions itself. It is impossible to make a random even; because it is random. The programmers have designed it so it appears random but it isn't... I don't know how the programmers did it, but using my own head; as you should yours, it is easy to understand that randomisation is impossible to put into simplicity and merely encode it with instructions. Therefore it is more likely not to be a random or equal chance within the game.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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To pin: I will go home and give you the titles of the books ;p

To everyone else: This is not a theory, there are professors that have prooved the mathematical formula only working theoretically and not practically ,p.

Even prooved that the formula to calcuate a random number, in this case the dice we are discussing, only works theoretically but not practically.

When i get home ill give you tonz of books i've bought from book stores to proof you are all wrong ,p.

1 / 6 * 1 / 6 (two dice rolled) <--- mathematically correct, as in theory.

Put it in practial use and you will be a mazed to only find out that the formual only works when you use it to calcuate things, not put it in practical.

How do you think election summaries are calcuated? Based on this very formula of % calcuation ... never to be exact ... the reason is, Discrete Mathematics and simply becuase they are calcuating on stuffs they THINK (math is correct in theory) are correct for the time being ,p.

Anyway ill end this discussion, its leading nowhere .. ill edit this post when i get home for you guys to educate!
 
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ilienwyn

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higher mathematics theories i think, or the chance to go to a sidi raid, something you want drops and you win it in the roll... :m00:
 

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