Look what TOA does to ppl

[Carrera]

QQ !

 

[EasyRider]

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AoR group had the SAME time (since pop) to form... and most people suicided from pvm/rvr to get in time to the spot.

why give 'campers' more time to form their group?

How much time would be "enough" for the 'campers'? 30 minutes ?

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1. solo campers inform /gu & /as about art pop.

2. a group is formed asap

3. first group that arrives and is capable of killing the mobs claims the camp

simple as that

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SoM POP!... SoM POP!...
be quick or be... the whiner.

 

[Dafft]

Gimp SoM................take it out teh game, it's shite anyway


too fecking many problems for a measle cloak.

my thoughts to ppl who have it (which is 90% of alb stealthers [ the 10% is me ]) NAFF off and get another cloak or join mid where fotm's are allowed, you laming fotm's.

besides, you cant camp 1 spot, might as well say you're camping the whole of DF or some stupid shit like that.

P.S best option is make a bg, do the encounter, /random 100 & tell the winner gratz & walk away like a man, cos there's always 12 hours later.

 

[eggy]

whats the world coming to, what kind of fucking pricks are these ppl? regardless of how long it took the guild to get their friends to the spot those AOR ppl acted like total fucking twats, why dont you fuck off to mid where daoc is a way of life and not a GAME FOR FUN.

lol Hercules, ever since that time you helped me on "MERCAL YOU C*NT" I find your posts cheer up even the dullest of days.

:wub:

 

[Z^^]

Oh come on, i'm not one to see the actions of one member of a guild to reflect on the actions of it but with this it kinda shows why people think of AD as the worst guild in alb (in regards to ethics).

i just made post dont really care to read thise sob storys anymore about some sad bastard who sit years and wait for an artifact to pop and then somehow he cant get his guild members there and some other guild come and "steal" it infront of them... its so sad i had to qq abit

 

[Red HATred]

Or just do as AoR, get a group to roam different encounters and do those that are up

:worthy: :worthy:

 

[Thorwyn]

Imagine a guy sitting on a rock, staring at his screen for 7 hours, waiting for a pop. And all of a sudden, the thread title is shining in a different light.

You can´t claim artifacts by sitting there. Plain and simple.
Whoever is there with a large enough force gets the kill. They may give you some time for INC´s (if they´re nice), but that´s about it.

Of course, all the wannabe Che Guevarras and Knights of the Order of a "United Albion Team" are taking this opportunity to start preaching their "we are all one realm" mantras. Guys, just lay off for a second and start using this oddly shaped device that´s mounted between your ears.
If CAMPING an artifact with ONE person gives the camper ANY right to claim that artifact, then it´s possible to paralyze the entire realm by constantly camping all artis. "Piss off, I`m sitting here, camping this arti and I`ll sit here for the next 3 or 4 pops too."
If we tolerate that, we´re supporting the opposite of what we want. It doesn´t *help* the realm, it *weakens* the realm.
The only way to solve this problem like this is to STOP camping artifacts, or if you want to camp, then trust your luck that you´ll be able to get a large enough force to kill it after the pop before some other group shows up. Sitting there, waiting for a pop doesn´t give you any right, it just gives you an advantage of seeing the pop first.

 

[Ghostfeet]

heh count me among them - confused!

add me to that list to

 

[Thorondorito]

Imagine a guy sitting on a rock, staring at his screen for 7 hours, waiting for a pop. And all of a sudden, the thread title is shining in a different light.

You can´t claim artifacts by sitting there. Plain and simple.
Whoever is there with a large enough force gets the kill. They may give you some time for INC´s (if they´re nice), but that´s about it.

Of course, all the wannabe Che Guevarras and Knights of the Order of a "United Albion Team" are taking this opportunity to start preaching their "we are all one realm" mantras. Guys, just lay off for a second and start using this oddly shaped device that´s mounted between your ears.
If CAMPING an artifact with ONE person gives the camper ANY right to claim that artifact, then it´s possible to paralyze the entire realm by constantly camping all artis. "Piss off, I`m sitting here, camping this arti and I`ll sit here for the next 3 or 4 pops too."
If we tolerate that, we´re supporting the opposite of what we want. It doesn´t *help* the realm, it *weakens* the realm.
The only way to solve this problem like this is to STOP camping artifacts, or if you want to camp, then trust your luck that you´ll be able to get a large enough force to kill it after the pop before some other group shows up. Sitting there, waiting for a pop doesn´t give you any right, it just gives you an advantage of seeing the pop first.

Aye u got a point there BUT i think AoR + the 2 infils should make a bg and lotto for the arti...

Last time i went there, there were 2 mincers + 1 theurg + 1 bb doing that with 2 salamander pets. I had a group ready to do SoM. We arrived and saw then trying the encounter. They failed and died. Did we start the encounter and doing nothing for them? NO. We just rezzed them, made a bg, joined them to the bg and made the encounter. After that we lottoed for the cloak and end of discussion. That's the way a realm should work imo.

 

[Thorwyn]

BUT i think AoR + the 2 infils should make a bg and lotto for the arti...

Well, yeah maybe that would have been a solution. Still, you can´t expect the larger force to do that.
Especially when you look at:

http://www.gamepad.dk/pictures/misc/78.jpg

Stallker says, "but the SoM is between me and jimmy "

or

http://www.gamepad.dk/pictures/misc/81.jpg

[Party]Stallker "We will have to group with them and hold for lotto"
[Party]Jimmy "NO"

So it was absolutely clear, that thoe guys really claimed this artifact and it´s not AoR´s fault.

I appreciate and respect your views on how a realm should work. Acting like you describe gives you a lot of reptation and credit. But that does not mean that NOT acting like you - and still playing fair and according to the rules - should give negative credit.

 

[Red HATred]

to trust...

ok, creating bg with all ppl around, getting the event done, lottoing the artifact. All is nice. IT Would be the best sollution imo.

BUT

the real problem on TOA is this :


I will get in the BG , "help" the bg to complete event. Then i hope to win the lottery: ... wohooo...... i win.. ........never to be seen again...
ME HELP THEM AGAIN????? are you insane?? i will never go back there again.. even though others helped me. SCrew those idiots for helping me, i got lucky, they can shuvv it ;-)


THIS MENTALITY IS THE PROBLEM
it creates hostility, animosity and most campers are obsecced with these emotions. Because they want it.... at all cost. They even risk beeing the subject of a nice flaming thread on FH here .

So from now on if you see a lame ass camping solo and claiming all sorts of bullshit about waiting, camping for 20 hours... group incomming etc.. Give em a 3 min break then charge in complete it. Go back to the camper

/dance /laugh /point /laugh

and say: "you could have been smarter and joined us.. at least you would have gotten something ;-) instead of trying to get all

 

[Tay]

whats the world coming to, what kind of fucking pricks are these ppl? regardless of how long it took the guild to get their friends to the spot those AOR ppl acted like total fucking twats, why dont you fuck off to mid where daoc is a way of life and not a GAME FOR FUN.

Erm did you look at the times and transcripts some of the AOR responses may not have been perfect but the bottom line is that they DID give the 2 people time to get guildies to help them, it does not take that long to get to Volcanus.

Had it have been me I would be disappointed I didnt get SOM but if you cant actually do it within 5-10 mins of it popping then you cannot blame others for being ready and capable of doing it.

Nice to see Powah is back uke:

 

[Tzan]

I would also feel very frustrated if it happened to me but the point was that you couldn’t make the encounter with that “force”.

Btw if I were you I would say... “Guys I phoned my budddies and they will come as soon as they log back in the game,they have gone for a beer down at the pub.”

ps: powahh your sorc is reeeeaaaalyyyy ugly! gay!

 

[Tay]

lol Hercules, ever since that time you helped me on "MERCAL YOU C*NT" I find your posts cheer up even the dullest of days.

:wub:

But there is a difference between laughing at someone and laughing with them..

 

[Hendrich]

Man I just love what ToA has done to this game.....before ToA there was an unwritten rule about camping spots. Now that ToA comes in, that unwritten rule goes out the window and use the CoC rules, also becomming complete asses and giving there guilds a bad reputation

 

[Lothandar]

I got this from SS alliance boards:

http://www.golala.com/forums/index.php?mforum=FT&showtopic=148

Kinda sad what a guild does out of greed, but then again, I never heard much good about AOR =/

Kinda sad you whine, but hey, tough world we live in

 

[Clipse]

Recently I have been at zahur and waited for peopel to come help kill him TWO times. Both times, another fg came and killed him while I was Pming people, its kinda dark down there and both times it was bloody in-game m8s.

I have 2 pieces of advice for u:

1. Artis really are no big deal.

2. Do NOT waste 7 hours camping an arti. If you are reletively patient u will get every artifact u want, when it isnt camped.

 

[Ame]

Silvermagi - Biggest gimp I know.

 

[Talifer]

Your all missing the most interesting point about all this (apart from the continuing, unbelievably hypocritical rants about camping by Ironheart who once threatened he would be camping the tower keeper all week) and that's the afk quote

<AFK> Isuma sends, "492 now, ganna watch troy hope im 500 when i get back

If that's what I think it is then, a) that's not a very smart afk message to leave, and b) should really have been smudged out of the screenshot

Talifer

 

[Ame]

To Red HATred.. more shit comes from your mouth then from the sewers.

What should have happened is, those infs and the AoR grp should have created a big bg, and the infs that wanted the cloak would lotto for it when they kill the mob.

What would happen if they did make a bg, and said anyone would lotto, would be that all the AoR would lotto, and most likely win against the 2 infs, and give the cloak to their inf.

Anyways, sure AoR has done this to me, and its damn annoying. It was either them or another roaming guild grp.

 

[Javai]

To Red HATred.. more shit comes from your mouth then from the sewers.

What should have happened is, those infs and the AoR grp should have created a big bg, and the infs that wanted the cloak would lotto for it when they kill the mob.

What would happen if they did make a bg, and said anyone would lotto, would be that all the AoR would lotto, and most likely win against the 2 infs, and give the cloak to their inf.

Anyways, sure AoR has done this to me, and its damn annoying. It was either them or another roaming guild grp.

The problem with this logic is that it gives a huge advantage to people with multiple accounts and time on their hands. Between me and my bf have 5 accounts, if I wanted to I could have a level 50 chars at 5 different artifacts 'camping' and therefore entitled to a roll in the lotto.

 

[Ame]

The problem with this logic is that it gives a huge advantage to people with multiple accounts and time on their hands. Between me and my bf have 5 accounts, if I wanted to I could have a level 50 chars at 5 different artifacts 'camping' and therefore entitled to a roll in the lotto.

People say that, and I doubt anyone actually does do that.

I ment if the artifact was useful for you. If you did actually do that anyways, people will get a bit suspicious of seeing a person at a camp more then once a week, or so often, since once you have an artifact, you usually don't visit that spot ever again solo.

Would also be impractical since you'll have to be watching the 5 accounts non stop, unless your bf was there helping.

 

[Coren]

Your all missing the most interesting point about all this (apart from the continuing, unbelievably hypocritical rants about camping by Ironheart who once threatened he would be camping the tower keeper all week) and that's the afk quote

<AFK> Isuma sends, "492 now, ganna watch troy hope im 500 when i get back

If that's what I think it is then, a) that's not a very smart afk message to leave, and b) should really have been smudged out of the screenshot

Talifer

 

[Belomar]

<AFK> Isuma sends, "492 now, ganna watch troy hope im 500 when i get back

If that's what I think it is then, a) that's not a very smart afk message to leave, and b) should really have been smudged out of the screenshot

Hahah, well-spotted.

 

[Ame]

Also hate peeps that use the 'theres no such thing as camped' rule or what have ya.

The 2 infs had more right to get their guildies still inc, then AoR pulling what they waited 7+ hours for. Its just general life knowledge.

 

[Formash]

Hahah, well-spotted.

Tsk tsk, macro usah !
<this message was written whilst AFK, thanks.>

 

[Flimgoblin]

Also hate peeps that use the 'theres no such thing as camped' rule or what have ya.

The 2 infs had more right to get their guildies still inc, then AoR pulling what they waited 7+ hours for. Its just general life knowledge.

there is no such thing as camped - if you solo camp an artifact that you can't do solo you get the right to know it's popped before anyone else ...

that's it.

Anyway SoM gets nerfed next patch anyway - quit killing yourselves over getting it.

 

[Ame]

there is no such thing as camped - if you solo camp an artifact that you can't do solo you get the right to know it's popped before anyone else ...

that's it.

Anyway SoM gets nerfed next patch anyway - quit killing yourselves over getting it.

See how popular it is? lol. Its just some people excuse to get away with stealing mobs, and mls. Its sick!

 

[Powahhh]

there is camping rule yes

unwritten thought....but this rule applies when you actually DO sthing in the camp spot...no sitting there and waiting for 2x mins and believe that all the other realm will wait you ?
and too bad the jimmie didn't spotted the SS that he says that we are motherfuckers and other mature things....
i was the Arti Grp Leader of AoR there (with mkay) and we decide to pull the SoM no matter what because of the VERYYYY bad attitude of this jimmie arsehole...i have told that to stallker also...he losed som cause of jimmie....
this fucking annoying kid throwing personal assaults in me and my guildmates have to get suspend...i will inform mkay for the SS that crearly show the attitude of jimmie and i have already asked the SSs to report him in GoA for misbehaviour,personal attacks,harrashment and other nice things...and THIS IS AGAINST CoC...


ps. some ppls before start judging things...have to see the whole story...no the one side only
ps1. and yes we were at Arti Raid,we were about 95% rdy for SoM,we went there it was up,we give them WAYYYYY too much time and we killed it...and because of this attitude we didn't did a BG and ofc i do not believe that YOU guys will ever help someone that call you and your friends...MotherFuckers....or it is just me?
ps2. i am back...too bad for everyone

 

[Belomar]

there is camping rule yes

No.