Lol!!

[whitelights]

That took so long at Renaris, your SB's did not do there job, we had 25 in BG and guard spam was 70 enemies,
and you trebbing for 2 hours before you finally move in and doing crap. Shame i went LD and could not
login to defend.

The first idea was to just treb the compleet keep and stay out of it so maybe then u would get "THE POINT" why your frontier was close to compleet blue.

" THE POINT " = U can only take a relic on " DOWN TIME " PVE some guards, put it ur keep and " DEFEND IT WITH ur 100 FRIENDS in or out ur BG " against an "UNDERPOPULATED REALM(Hibernia) who have not 0,0000000000001% chance to be able to get BACK what was STOLEN from them, and then have a GREAT laugh about it i guess!!

Well i started a couple raids this week and arepa finished them kept them going took them over etcetc, alot people in BG and on VT with us agree and can ALL SAY that WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THE RAIDS AT 0500...0700.. during the night or in the morning.

As long as u can't SHOW urself wurthy to try and DO SOMETHING during DAY/EVENING time we will keep going on with this on a regular base until u GET THE POINT.

WE don't give SH*T about the Relics , we even intended to put them in BERK or somewhere else in albion frontier but that was impossible, since u just can't do it.

90% off ALL the PEOPLE in BG know it is USELESS to take relics since they ALWAYS will be back in Albion THX to an AC between 0500-0700hr.

SO basicly : TRY TO GIVE SOME CHALLENGE AND FUN IN DEFENDING OUR REALM INSTEAD OFF DOING IT THE LAME WAY!!!

What must be said : ( with the current way frontier and relicstatus is working, u need alot of time to do a decent raid on a realms relics, before even 1 gate opens u already have to take 3 keeps with 1 of HIGH importance and mostly HIGH defended, so to have a nice fight arround the relic temple on primetime u will always have to start during the day , unless u got like 100 to 10 outnumbering)

:worthy:

 

[Soulja_IA_]

repped

 

[Gahn]

repped

I fucking second that.

 

[Sharkith]

tbh it might be the only way to show them how it feels to see things being done like this.

Good luck Whitelights and Mids with your campaign, I honestly feel its pretty poor to have to do it like this but if you can get the point across by all means do so. Just make it clear why your doing it and stick to your guns that this is a response to the AC raids and the behaviour of a few.

 

[whitelights]

tbh it might be the only way to show them how it feels to see things being done like this.

Good luck Whitelights and Mids with your campaign, I honestly feel its pretty poor to have to do it like this but if you can get the point across by all means do so. Just make it clear why your doing it and stick to your guns that this is a response to the AC raids and the behaviour of a few.

It is , and we will.
:worthy:

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Yeah, he deserves to be repped. Surely running the first FG every morning and ganking people is much more challenging than taking a relic deep in the night, you people need to get a clue.

 

[Gahn]

Yeah, he deserves to be repped. Surely running the first FG every morning and ganking people is much more challenging than taking a relic deep in the night, you people need to get a clue.

The more shit goes on the English Cluster annoying the morons, the more happy i am atm, so u can go and buy a clue.

 

[Blow]

The first idea was to just treb the compleet keep and stay out of it so maybe then u would get "THE POINT"
why your frontier was close to compleet blue.

" THE POINT " = U can only take a relic on " DOWN TIME " PVE some guards, put it ur keep and " DEFEND IT WITH ur 100 FRIENDS
in or out ur BG " against an "UNDERPOPULATED REALM(Hibernia) who have not 0,0000000000001% chance to be able to get BACK
what was STOLEN from them, and then have a GREAT laugh about it i guess!!

Well i started a couple raids this week and arepa finished them kept them going took them over etcetc, alot people in BG
and on VT with us agree and can ALL SAY that WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THE RAIDS AT 0500...0700.. during the night or in the morning.

As long as u can't SHOW urself wurthy to try and DO SOMETHING during DAY/EVENING time we will keep going on with this on
a regular base until u GET THE POINT.

WE don't give SH*T about the Relics , we even intended to put them in BERK or somewhere else in albion frontier but that
was impossible, since u just can't do it.

90% off ALL the PEOPLE in BG know it is USELESS to take relics since they ALWAYS will be back in Albion THX to an AC
between 0500-0700hr.

SO basicly : TRY TO GIVE SOME CHALLENGE AND FUN IN DEFENDING OUR REALM INSTEAD OFF DOING IT THE LAME WAY!!!

What must be said : ( with the current way frontier and relicstatus is working, u need alot of time to do a decent
raid on a realms relics, before even 1 gate opens u already have to take 3 keeps with 1 of HIGH importance and mostly
HIGH defended, so to have a nice fight arround the relic temple on primetime u will always have to start during the day ,
unless u got like 100 to 10 outnumbering)

:worthy:

You wont piss me off by doing these early raids and color our frontier blue. Can give you a tip tho if you are
able to start on keeps in albion at 09:00 why dont you get up 2 hours earlier so you can defend against those people
that are trying to take the relic.

If you think you will solve the AC raids doing this then your wrong. If your doing it because you having fun, then
keep on doing. I will have fun in Daoc anyway. CM stopped on AC raids because it was our own disscion, not because
Mid/Hib tried to change our minds, not because any FH QQ thread.

Have fun anyway with the game!

 

[Sharkith]

Yeah, he deserves to be repped. Surely running the first FG every morning and ganking people is much more challenging than taking a relic deep in the night, you people need to get a clue.

trying reading before posting Manisch this discussion is about afternoon keep takes and not running the first FG in the morning. He got rep for the former actions and the latter was not part of the discussion - if it exists.

 

[whitelights]

Yeah, he deserves to be repped. Surely running the first FG every morning and ganking people is much more challenging than taking a relic deep in the night, you people need to get a clue.

I'm a healer so i never run SOLO , and the GOAL was to MAKE a POINT with it , if this means we have to start at 1100 cet in the " morning " then so BE IT !
:kissit:

And tbh there was also a 1 FG Albs out in the morning to defend, ONLY 1 FG who had the BALLS to DO something atleast.

THX Sick, it was Sad u didn't GET or took the people with u to stop us , would have been a challenge.
:worthy:

 

[whitelights]

You wont piss me off by doing these early raids and color our frontier blue. Can give you a tip tho if you are
able to start on keeps in albion at 09:00 why dont you get up 2 hours earlier so you can defend against those people
that are trying to take the relic.

If you think you will solve the AC raids doing this then your wrong. If your doing it because you having fun, then
keep on doing. I will have fun in Daoc anyway. CM stopped on AC raids because it was our own disscion, not because
Mid/Hib tried to change our minds, not because any FH QQ thread.

Have fun anyway with the game!

I don't want to piss anyone off tbh. just telling u what our motivation is and where it comes from.
And 0600 - 0900 hr in the morning ,... well i work in all kind of different shifts day /night evenings and mornings , so either i just left or am not home yet and if i am home i help my kids get out off bed and ready for school or other personal activities.

Fun , ... some/most of the times yes, although we also made finished chars on avalon (Hib) u never know.
:worthy:

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

trying reading before posting Manisch this discussion is about afternoon keep takes and not running the first FG in the morning. He got rep for the former actions and the latter was not part of the discussion - if it exists.

They lay the base for the siege in Albion every morning taking 2-3 keeps and disabling important ports, making prime time defence very hard and the takes of more keeps easy. Every tower that is retaken by Albs gets a visit from 30-40 Mids, try to defend a level 1 tower please vs that...

First it was IRVR with 1 Mid and 1 Hib keep, then Mids got bored like one realm with insta port to an other realm always gets it and they started to want more. The AC'ed relic is just a lame excuse once again and some roleplaying excuse for wanting some RPs easy.

 

[fanis]

Don't worry albs.

Mids will not touch hib relic at renaris. They will try anything EXCEPT that!
They won't take the relic from their own brothers. They trust each other.

Yesterday i killed a hib stealther somewhere in renaris area...... fgm zerged me after. ......Next run another hib killed me and another group of mids came by; and /hug /bow /kiss /sex etc to the hib player (if the could heal him the would do also).
I don't remember names and i don't give a shit!
This is what i call brotherhood! This is what i call Hib-gard. uke:

CU around

 

[Soulja_IA_]

They lay the base for the siege in Albion every morning taking 2-3 keeps and disabling important ports, making prime time defence very hard and the takes of more keeps easy. Every tower that is retaken by Albs gets a visit from 30-40 Mids, try to defend a level 1 tower please vs that...

First it was IRVR with 1 Mid and 1 Hib keep, then Mids got bored like one realm with insta port to an other realm always gets it and they started to want more. The AC'ed relic is just a lame excuse once again and some roleplaying excuse for wanting some RPs easy.

ROFL Get a brain cell he posted reasons behind it if you think they AC'd relic then you a very late sleeper check log timings on when it was done.

As for making out Mids destroying all the fun what the fuck has Albs been doing for the past year or more FFS take you fingers out you arse and applaud him for making a stand against what Alb have been doing Geee you about as much use to this discussion as a chocolate fireguard.

Soulja

 

[Gahn]

They lay the base for the siege in Albion every morning taking 2-3 keeps and disabling important ports, making prime time defence very hard and the takes of more keeps easy. Every tower that is retaken by Albs gets a visit from 30-40 Mids, try to defend a level 1 tower please vs that...

First it was IRVR with 1 Mid and 1 Hib keep, then Mids got bored like one realm with insta port to an other realm always gets it and they started to want more. The AC'ed relic is just a lame excuse once again and some roleplaying excuse for wanting some RPs easy.

Shit to be on the receiving end of grief play ain't it?

 

[Arquest]

Well relic raids come and go

One thing to say trully

Congratzulations to all Blue Green con Albs that went for defend and reminded me good old relic raids in OF.

As for the rest written just enjoy the game m8s less whine more love

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Shit to be on the receiving end of grief play ain't it?

I've plenty of other things to do in the game than just running in a blue Albion frontier getting ganked by Mid zerg or TC wanting some RPs near Sauvage.

They can take as many keeps and towers as they want to if it floats their boats, but there is nothing heroic in it and claming a higher moral ground within their endavour is just laughable. It's just the RPs.

Also, his claimed escalation of the conflict to get a point across is just some blah blah blah, it will not change anything for some people playing in the night going for a relic cause they are bored or want to upset someone.

 

[Winowill]

5fg mids on about 1pm this afternoon U ROX r u guys related or something.. Jeez u really done well. To make things even more better Mids and hibs being gay again holding hands and kissing ......... U SUCK ARSE keep relic's who acutally care's mayb we can get some RvR now Thnx f?ck

But, but, but, ....... we thought you albs like zerging, running around 2 - 3 fg or more on stick to run over the soloers, fg's and everything that passes your way when there is irvr !

o but then ofc GETTING zerged is ofc something else

 

[Winowill]

Yeah, he deserves to be repped. Surely running the first FG every morning and ganking people is much more challenging than taking a relic deep in the night, you people need to get a clue.

Arent you in CM? arent you running the first fg at 5 in the morning to compete with guards and run over the lonely defending hib or mid?

 

[Blow]

I don't want to piss anyone off tbh. just telling u what our motivation is and where it comes from.
And 0600 - 0900 hr in the morning ,... well i work in all kind of different shifts day /night evenings and mornings , so either i just left or am not home yet and if i am home i help my kids get out off bed and ready for school or other personal activities.

Fun , ... some/most of the times yes, although we also made finished chars on avalon (Hib) u never know.
:worthy:

Ok your motivation is clear to me

Arent you in CM? arent you running the first fg at 5 in the morning to compete with guards and run over the lonely defending hib or mid?

How long is it ago you played DAOC on Excal/Prydwen? If you wanna QQ then find some new to QQ cause this is old news.

 

[Winowill]

That took so long at Renaris, your SB's did not do there job, we had 25 in BG and guard spam was 70 enemies,
and you trebbing for 2 hours before you finally move in and doing crap. Shame i went LD and could not
login to defend.

BG's nrs arent always correct, some just dont join them but are there, so you might have been bit more then 25 or not.

the max mids at one time we had in sauvage area was 49, maby you forgot there are 3 realms and that hibs were roaming in the area to have a interested look around to see what was up :touch:

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

I don't even know who he is, he can't be as prominent as me, cause I know me but not him.

*touches himself*

 

[Blow]

BG's nrs arent always correct, some just dont join them but are there, so you might have been bit more then 25 or not.

the max mids at one time we had in sauvage area was 49, maby you forgot there are 3 realms and that hibs were roaming in the area to have a interested look around to see what was up :touch:

Maybe you should care to read a bit, i said 25 in BG not 25 albs at renaris, and that the guards said 70 enemies so thats mids and hibs.

 

[Cromcruaich]

5fg mids on about 1pm this afternoon U ROX r u guys related or something.. Jeez u really done well. To make things even more better Mids and hibs being gay again holding hands and kissing ......... U SUCK ARSE keep relic's who acutally care's mayb we can get some RvR now Thnx f?ck

Who let vicky pollard join FH?

 

[Fanguir]

5fg mids on about 1pm this afternoon U ROX r u guys related or something.. Jeez u really done well. To make things even more better Mids and hibs being gay again holding hands and kissing ......... U SUCK ARSE keep relic's who acutally care's mayb we can get some RvR now Thnx f?ck

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Well deserved u zerging albs

Mids kicked ur ass and I was one of them

Mid ftw WL ftw

(logged on my hibb toon after relic raid, and got asskicked by mids, so no holding hands and kissing)

 

[Sharkith]

They lay the base for the siege in Albion every morning taking 2-3 keeps and disabling important ports, making prime time defence very hard and the takes of more keeps easy. Every tower that is retaken by Albs gets a visit from 30-40 Mids, try to defend a level 1 tower please vs that...

First it was IRVR with 1 Mid and 1 Hib keep, then Mids got bored like one realm with insta port to an other realm always gets it and they started to want more. The AC'ed relic is just a lame excuse once again and some roleplaying excuse for wanting some RPs easy.

Manisch I am sorry but that is what we faced for long periods of time in Hib. Eventually it tells on the playerbase. It is not nice Whitelights even admits it is not nice but at the end of the day this is a case of 'do onto others as they have done onto you.' This tit for tat play has been long over due - we faced this make no mistake - what does it feel like?

No-one likes this kind of play but like many have said in this thread - if they can do it to make a point go ahead and do it. CM and other Albs asked for this finally someone is here who can demonstrate what it feels like.

It exposes an interesting problem though for those that constantly claim that this is a 24/7 game and who then come and complain when they see their frontier a light shade of blue. In response to them:

Sure its a 24/7 game but why is it some people like to be an asshole 24/7?

All it takes is for people to show a bit of restraint.

I said before a voluntary charter that people can sign up to that clearly does not reward grief play like this is the best in community way forward. GOA thought that was unworkable and with the action againts TT made it impossible.

As a result we had to move to protect ourselves from the possibility that we would feel so aggrieved by a small groups behaviour. At the end of the day Manisch this is not nice, no-one likes it. Is it even possible to stop it?

 

[Fanguir]

well seems like mids cant take relics alone, they have to grp up with hibs :worthy:
such ubah skills u have ;D n00bs

Two words to u: BAD LOOSERuke:

 

[Sharkith]

Maybe you should care to read a bit, i said 25 in BG not 25 albs at renaris, and that the guards said 70 enemies so thats mids and hibs.

this confirms nothing other than there were 70 enemies running around Savuage - which is a big area - significantly bigger than the keep. Could all have been mid FG's and soloers not wanting to be in the BG.

 

[Fanguir]

shut up demented one and get back in thy cage

Stay in US u gimpuke: uke:

 

[Fahdlan]

Originally Posted by Fanguir
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Well deserved u zerging albs

what a hypocrit.