lol only in yank land.

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Embattle

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Yeah I saw that case and believe it or not but they most probably have a good chance.......only in America ;)
 
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Damini

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"Only in America" doesn't stand up to much scrutiny. My mum's a nurse, and she's been told that if someone collapses with a cardiac arrest when she's out of work, she Isn't To Resuscitate Them. Apparently, one woman was brought back to life by an off duty nurse, and in the process she had a rib broken. Small price to pay, you'd think. But you'd be wrong, and she sued the nurse.

Makes you wish the courts had offered to repair the rib for free, and return her to her state of death. And then *everyone* is happy.
 
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Embattle

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Actually it does since most legal firsts normally take place in America and then eventually make there way over here.
 
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Damini

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Heh, well thats not only then...

"Primarily in america" maybe. "Primarily in america, but rapidly spreading to our shite riddled greedy bastards"

Claims Direct called round my house the other day, asking if I'd "Had a fall at work?". "Tripped over any loose paving slabs?" "Been involved in a car accident that wasn't your fault?"
 
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Embattle

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This particular incident, Fat Fookers suing fast food joints, is "Only In America" atm.....later on it might become "primarily in America" once a case comesto court in another country :)

When in Florida in 98 most the adverts on TV were Claims companies pimping their suing abilities.
 
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Munkey-

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the patriots are plotting your demise.



fear them
 
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old.ignus

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Originally posted by Damini
Heh, well thats not only then...

"Primarily in america" maybe. "Primarily in america, but rapidly spreading to our shite riddled greedy bastards"

Claims Direct called round my house the other day, asking if I'd "Had a fall at work?". "Tripped over any loose paving slabs?" "Been involved in a car accident that wasn't your fault?"

I thought claims direct went bust after they were taken to court. Don't get involved with them anyway, they take about 95% of your reward for legal services.
 
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Munkey-

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the patriots will go to any length to not be exposed
 
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Wij

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STOP IT MUNKEY !!!1

And I agree with Damini. We have similar shite over here all the time. Officious Beurocrats and Security Guard Jobsworths and unbeleivable compensation claims.

It's a mixture of greed and people being brought up without ever being told that something is their fault because that might lower their self-esteem quotient.

My parents happily told me when I was a fuckwit and I thank them for it :)
 
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FatBusinessman

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The scary thing is there's a clause like that in my contract too, and I'm only a summer student...

...although luckily I'm not likely to invent very much in the next 4 weeks :)
 
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PR.

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Bah if they did that to me I would go all the way to the end then say.. "Shit, I forgot what this was all about"
 
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Durzel

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DCS/Alcatel are actually 100% in the right, legally anyway.

Its not uncommon for employee contracts to include terms that basically say that I.P that has come about through use of or access to company resources, proprietary information or technologies in the business domain automatically become the property of the company.

If I was to write a piece of software and store it on a server belonging to the company where I work, and/or developed it using software installed thereon I'm sure they would have a pretty strong case to claim it as their property, even if I worked on it outside of working hours.

I'm pretty sure DCS/Alcatel would have a pretty strong case even if this chap didn't publicly disclose the foundation of his invention to them, purely because I would imagine much of his work would've been based on experiences/information illicited during his employment there.

Still, these small matters seldom get in the way of the kind of rabid vitriol you often see on TheReg.
 
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Shocko

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Note that this chap hadn't written anything down, and had been thinking about it before he worked for them.

This is a case of thought thievery!
 
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Durzel

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Originally posted by Shocko
Note that this chap hadn't written anything down, and had been thinking about it before he worked for them.

This is a case of thought thievery!
And therein lies the problem.

1) He has nothing tangible to prove he didn't create this invention entirely during his employment at Alcatel/DCS

2) He wilfully admitted that he solved at least one of the problems relating to this project during his employment (thus its implied he used company resources/technologies to achieve this)

I'm not debating how unfair it sounds, I'm just putting across a more reasoned argument.
 
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Wilier

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Originally posted by Damini
"Only in America" doesn't stand up to much scrutiny. My mum's a nurse, and she's been told that if someone collapses with a cardiac arrest when she's out of work, she Isn't To Resuscitate Them. Apparently, one woman was brought back to life by an off duty nurse, and in the process she had a rib broken. Small price to pay, you'd think. But you'd be wrong, and she sued the nurse.

Makes you wish the courts had offered to repair the rib for free, and return her to her state of death. And then *everyone* is happy.

Strangely enough, in my role as part of our ERT at work, we have been trained in the use of a (sp) defibralator (you know, the electric zapper thing for getting hearts going). A lot of the lads on the team have refused to use it, in case they get it wrong and get sued.

But hey, you cant live in fear of sue'age all your life ;)
 
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nath

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Aren't there certain cases where if you can do something to help someone, but don't you can get done for negligence or something similar. And if you do something you run the risk of getting sued for screwing up.

Yer damned if you do and yer damned if you don't springs to mind.
 

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