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[Bracken]

I can send you some clips of Rure interupting ''properly''

I miss Rure

 

[swords]

He is playing Bubblo now his Theurgist
He will be back soon just he ABHORS pve so

 

[vintervargen]

or cause you have selective memory

lol, why are you keep saying im wrong? you cant know if a player is good or not until you have faced him as an enemy..

 

[rvn]

when was that? Failed attempt at albion? You do have to twist. You have to constantly and I don't wanna have situations where either our pala is low on power or our group is low on end going into a fight. Also I would rather have the choice to sprint if we need to.


The buffs shearing is live on US server, the stupid lame RA changes aren't coming for ages. Also forgot Ablatives on mincer. I don't wanna play w/o our mincer. The more I look at what is coming, the less I wanna play.

And to vinterwhatever, you're story seems to indicate alot of bg alts and stealthers and not much group rvr, so how/when were you supposed to have seen any mincers? Or did I miss your latest purchase? Sorry but your judgement of group minstrels on excali means fuck all to me.

About the twisting part, for serious guilds who dont afk when they rvr, twisting is nothing impossible, however for people like you who are lazy and rather loose instead of doing their best this may not be the option, you are probably better of with a minstrel in grp so you can sos your way back to apk when things get nasty.

Also a paladin with 32chants, ie end 4, and rest of group getting longwind1, with crack4 from sorc he can go +/- for like 15min and then have to twist a short while for ~30sec - 40sec. So i think you should shut up when you dont have an idea what is being discussed, instead of just complaining and saying everything is impossible.

 

[SethNaket]

lol, why are you keep saying im wrong? you cant know if a player is good or not until you have faced him as an enemy..

So in other words, you're saying all the albs and mids that say you suck ass are right? :touch:

 

[Asha]

About the twisting part, for serious guilds who dont afk when they rvr, twisting is nothing impossible, however for people like you who are lazy and rather loose instead of doing their best this may not be the option, you are probably better of with a minstrel in grp so you can sos your way back to apk when things get nasty.

Lazy like me? Soruzi kiss my ass. You played with me for months and know I am not lazy. You're just being retarded now. I would love you to name ONE time you saw me or my group use SoS to go to apk unless we had a freaking relic. Albs droping mincer is NOT the same thing at all as mids dropping Skald - that is all I am saying. It has nothing to do with being lazy, it has to do with dropping a huge amount of utility and the paladin having to keep strict attention on his twisting vs. the mid situation - which is alot more simple and straight-forward. The fact is that if we drop a mincer for a cleric, we're still 2 -TWO- spread healers vs mids 3. We're still crap dmg output (go go pala) compaired to Mid. No matter what set up you produce in Albion, 3 clerics with 2 spread heals is going to gimp your damage and utility.

I don't say everything is impossible, but I think albs are getting screwed with this situation. I liked how things were before TOA and we were happy to fight the hardest groups on the server and have at least a 50/50 chance. I think it's hilarious that you switch to mid and suddenly become mr know it all about Albion, where you couldn't hack it either time. Come back and talk big when you've stopped being so lazy and tried hard mode successfully. No I am not serious, I don't think you're lazy but you're being retarded.

 

[vintervargen]

So in other words, you're saying all the albs and mids that say you suck ass are right? :touch:

lamest try for a flame ive ever seen, better luck next time.

 

[SethNaket]

lamest try for a flame ive ever seen, better luck next time.

Of course it's lame, I'm only applying your own logic (or lack thereof). Glad you see it too!

 

[rvn]

paladin having to keep strict attention on his twisting

a good paladin should be able to do this, like a normal person being able to talk and walk at the same time.

also the minstrel basicly just has speed as utility if the alb group has a good theurgist and sorc. (and dont mention demezz agian, allready said 5min purge twice)

and as for:

I think it's hilarious that you switch to mid and suddenly become mr know it all about Albion, where you couldn't hack it either time

over the time ive played daoc ive learned that teamworks is what makes groups win, in albion i wasnt a part of any guild with a good teamwork, speaking the same "first" language is a huge bonus only that, and also to be abe to speak the same language now on voice com helps alot with the teamwork - and as for playing with the same players in both alb/midd/hibb grps.

Dont come and say albion hasnt changed ALOT since when i left both with classes, and overall rvr performance. Oh and ive played quite a while with ad aswell, and hibernia on prydwen and from my experience i can bone out the winning keys of a group setup.

 

[judas]

a good paladin should be able to do this, like a normal person being able to talk and walk at the same time.

also the minstrel basicly just has speed as utility if the alb group has a good theurgist and sorc. (and dont mention demezz agian, allready said 5min purge twice)

w/o demezz on healers mids whould never win u know...

 

[rvn]

determination on sorc in mind specc, and later on purge on 5min timer as stated 3d time now

oh and i doubt midds would never win w/o demezz on healers, 9 out of 10 groups on excalibur still has not discovered the aoe mezz icon on their quickbar

 

[Asha]

There is still a huge difference between mids running on sprint and albs.
There is still a huge difference between a Mincer and a Skald.
There is still a huge difference between 2 and 3 spread heals and 1 and 3 demezzers.
There is going to be what, 3-4 months (guessing) between buff shears and Frontiers ?

3 clerics in a group is gimped.

 

[[NO]Subedai]

determination on sorc in mind specc, and later on purge on 5min timer as stated 3d time now

oh and i doubt midds would never win w/o demezz on healers, 9 out of 10 groups on excalibur still has not discovered the aoe mezz icon on their quickbar

funny how that now ur a mid u think u are suddenly uber skilled and uber..cuz ur not

ur talk about replacing a micner shows how little u know about alb. there are numerous fundamental advantages that mid has, im sure u can figure em out.
chain cc'er for example.........

 

[rvn]

been midd ever since you even started playing i guess so (subedai)


There is still a huge difference between a Mincer and a Skald.

both play interrupt role.
minstrel got sos.
minstrel got demezz.
minstrel does less dmg when assisting.

interrupt role = theurgist/sorc
sos wont be needed if you play hybrid grp between wizard/merc(s)
demezz wont be needed with 5min purge, and demezz on a class with 350dex,mota3 - 4, 10% ct bonus.
dmg will be alot better with an additonal merc.

its still possible to win mezz with speed 4+sprint.

 

[vintervargen]

Of course it's lame, I'm only applying your own logic (or lack thereof). Glad you see it too!

so. my point beeing there are so outstanding ministrels on exalibur.

your point was?

 

[SethNaket]

so. my point beeing there are so outstanding ministrels on exalibur.

your point was?

Not exactly the sharpest tool in the box, are you?

 

[Konah]

demezz wont be needed with 5min purge

when in a good fight u get mezzed/stunned/rooted 2/3/4+ times...? mmk.

1 (cloth wearing) demezzer? yeah right

 

[vintervargen]

there are 2 types of groups,

1 that are based on much dmg fast

1 that are based on not so much dmg, but instead no oppertunity for the enemy to heal

mid tank groups are generally bad on the interrupting part - because they dont need to, i can heal all i want, the savages will still kill a groupmember between one SH and another.

versus AD its another story, the healing is very effective - if i ever get to cast one.

alb 'fotm' groups seem to want the interrupting part, with a theurgist and ministrel. that said, i would love to see a group with 3 clerics 3 mercs 1 pally and 1 sorc. should not be a problem with interrupting with that group.

 

[vintervargen]

Not exactly the sharpest tool in the box, are you?

was that your point? cause if it was this is kinda the wrong section. why dont you say whats on you mind bud

 

[Asha]

lol, why are you keep saying im wrong? you cant know if a player is good or not until you have faced him as an enemy..

um wrong, try again
and sorry but you can't buy experiance

 

[Asha]

there are 2 types of groups,

1 that are based on much dmg fast

1 that are based on not so much dmg, but instead no oppertunity for the enemy to heal

mid tank groups are generally bad on the interrupting part - because they dont need to, i can heal all i want, the savages will still kill a groupmember between one SH and another.

versus AD its another story, the healing is very effective - if i ever get to cast one.

alb 'fotm' groups seem to want the interrupting part, with a theurgist and ministrel. that said, i would love to see a group with 3 clerics 3 mercs 1 pally and 1 sorc. should not be a problem with interrupting with that group.

now you wanna drop the theurg?
lol

did you not meet a good theurg either?

 

[SethNaket]

was that your point? cause if it was this is kinda the wrong section. why dont you say whats on you mind bud

Already did, not really my problem if you don't get it. It's actually more entertaining this way.

I'll let you think about it some more, if you still don't get it maybe I'll explain later.

 

[Konah]

should not be a problem with interrupting with that group.

theurg pets are root and mezz immune with permasprint... and last 1 minute+

 

[vintervargen]

um wrong, try again
and sorry but you can't buy experiance

so.. what exactly do you know about me and my daoc history?

now you wanna drop the theurg?
lol

did you not meet a good theurg either?

i've met a few good theurgists, yes.

that's not the point however, interrupts isnt necessary if you can do unhealable amounts of damage (read up)

theurg pets are root and mezz immune with permasprint... and last 1 minute+

i've never said theurgists arn't good, but as i did say there are 2 sorts of groups.

 

[Asha]

what you're saying speaks for itself

 

[vintervargen]

what you're saying speaks for itself

no better answer then that? shape up dude..

 

[[NO]Subedai]

ive seen np interrupt better than ive ever seen a hib grp interrupt tbh.

 

[Trubble]

there are 2 types of groups,

1 that are based on much dmg fast

1 that are based on not so much dmg, but instead no oppertunity for the enemy to heal

mid tank groups are generally bad on the interrupting part - because they dont need to, i can heal all i want, the savages will still kill a groupmember between one SH and another.

versus AD its another story, the healing is very effective - if i ever get to cast one.

alb 'fotm' groups seem to want the interrupting part, with a theurgist and ministrel. that said, i would love to see a group with 3 clerics 3 mercs 1 pally and 1 sorc. should not be a problem with interrupting with that group.

What are you going to use the 3rd cleric for? Might be a point in 1.69, but 3 clerics not very offensive really. The 3 healer setup in Midgaard means a lot more than healing, its the CC and Celerity too. Alb clerics will at best do a little interrupts with their AE smite...

Imitating the mid setup for albs doesnt work.

 

[Asha]

ive seen np interrupt better than ive ever seen a hib grp interrupt tbh.

ye but then asd got fixed :x

 

[Asha]

no better answer then that? shape up dude..

what? it's true, you're spouting non-sense if you say you're active at rvr for 6 months on a druid in emain and haven't met a good mincer. It's also non-sense to say that you only know if someone is a good player if you play against them. You know a good support player when you play with them. When you say Mezzed and you're insta demezzed, when you say disease and you're insta healed, when you say pet and it's CC'ed. Anyone who reads your statements can see what stupid fluff they are.

AE smite for interupt? lol...

Anyhow, I think Albs going to have to come up with totally new groups that probably won't feature mercs... dunno what it is though