Light Enchanter ?

[Ekg]

Does anyone have a light specced chanter?

If you specc light you will get a nice nuke and a hinder attack speed shout [AE] ?

Is it worth it... nukes are gr8 in rvr and the insta hinder attack speed must be quite nice to ( agains trolls =) ),

I also heard that my pet would do more dmg if i specc light ( zealot ) ,

Has anyone seen the daoc movie bodies? Its about a light specced chanter and he does horrible dmg..

Well is it worth it?

I appologise for the spelling =)..

 

[Kobold]

Salalalallalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazar Saaaalalalalaaaadbar

First light chanter on excal....and I think he enjoy his spec, since haven't respecced.

Actually the light spec on all hib mages have the same damage on the DDs, so if you go max light enchanter you WILL get a very nice DD, and with compatriot (witch cast slow on eatch dd) it's a very nice combo. They allso made the chanter speed base line instead of mana so you will allso have nice speed.

You can put the rest points in mana for a deacent pbaoe for goruping (26 pbaoe).

 

[spankya]

Or ask Vulcan. Think he is the highest light spec chanter in hib. He seems to like it.

 

[Kobold]

Yeh and Vulcan too

 

[Danya]

You also get a 15% heat debuff in the mana line to boost your spec nukes.

 

[lofff]

yep, only problem is u get stun and pet's snare as only CC while ur clothmates get sum mezzes

 

[old.Thalion]

Spank, Kobby ..... u forgot me

And Loff: Yes, we only get the stun and pet snare, but as light chanter u are kinda unique (most chanters are manabombers)

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by old.Thalion
Spank, Kobby ..... u forgot me

And Loff: Yes, we only get the stun and pet snare, but as light chanter u are kinda unique (most chanters are manabombers)

i really see no point in speccing light with resists these days, alright u get a good nuke but with resist dmg usually goes under the 250mark, but mana chanters can debuff heat and then use their baseline DD, hitting for 500+ each cast for sure, and then ofcourse a sweet pbae to top it off ;o

 

[anno_dk]

Anno was 45 light 26 mana 14 enchant before patch, now i've respecced to mana and really enjoy it, love the UBER dmg pbaoe can do, and do when used correct. You still have AE attack spd debuff, tho not as good as if you were 45 light, but still you have one with same radius. Anyone know if u break mezz if cast debuffs first?
As for your question I'd say go mana, light is good but only hit 1 at a time, pbaoe kill all at once

 

[Kobold]

Originally posted by old.Thalion
Spank, Kobby ..... u forgot me

And Loff: Yes, we only get the stun and pet snare, but as light chanter u are kinda unique (most chanters are manabombers)

....and ofcourse Thalion the uber light-chanter

 

[Salazar]

Nowadays when all tanks have determination skill... you are supposed to stun some1 and go next to him to pbaoe? Stun lasts for 3 secs usually... then again... many fights are fought at range for example at amg... anyway... every1 should spec how they feel... i levelled with light and im staying with it- ah yes... its great to solo PvE.

 

[Kobold]

I still beleave light chanters have more fun in RvR than mana chanters

 

[vulcan1]

Originally posted by old.Eternal[EW]
I still beleave light chanters have more fun in RvR than mana chanters

Cant speak for other Light Chanters but agree totally.

Same as Salazar : I leveled with light and I'm staying with it. Level 5 PB (26 mana) with MoC still gets you those close in kills.

As for dmg going under the 250 mark with resists??

Sharpo you got the wrong nuke on bro? ...Even with resists I'm hitting for between 350-550+ without crit.

Baseline DD sucks it might have the dmg but drains power, and who has time in rvr with the speed of zergs to cast stun-debuff-nuke= more than half the power bar down.

Either way these days im begining to thing the res sick icon is a new buff

My 2 cents

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by vulcan1


Sharpo you got the wrong nuke on bro? ...Even with resists I'm hitting for between 350-550+ without crit.

Baseline DD sucks it might have the dmg but drains power, and who has time in rvr with the speed of zergs to cast stun-debuff-nuke= more than half the power bar down.

here's from a fire wiz who had some resists on his heat nuke:
http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37947

and i also found a thread on vn boards with same things, uber resists (posted by hibs!!) and that they hardly hit for 300+ ;/

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=39635470&replies=184

 

[vulcan1]

Originally posted by Sharp Thing


here's from a fire wiz who had some resists on his heat nuke:
http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37947

and i also found a thread on vn boards with same things, uber resists (posted by hibs!!) and that they hardly hit for 300+ ;/

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=39635470&replies=184

Good Thread Info, But

Not my point, I'm speaking from ingame as of now experience, if they nerf the damage output later then I still have the respec to fall back on, should I need it.

Not a flame, just the facts as of now.

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by vulcan1


Good Thread Info, But

Not my point, I'm speaking from ingame as of now experience, if they nerf the damage output later then I still have the respec to fall back on, should I need it.

Not a flame, just the facts as of now.

 

[old.Thalion]

Dmg output will be nerfed I've not all have high heat resists now, they'll have after SC is out. Then we have these nice stackable resist buffs and some cheap RA's.

 

[Kobold]

Hibs <----high heat resist
Albs <----low heat resist

hib mages <----
alb mages <----

 

[Aussie-]

*cough* overpowered resistitems .

 

[old.Odysseus]

I have 29% resist on heat, energy and cold (AoM 1). Nuke me baby.

 

[Stallion-]

debuff 50% ops is that a -20%?
yer ok ill nuke :>

sure 45 light dd is nice, but with SC comming and every1 getting more into resists (duh!) you will most likley have 75%-125% dmg output less variance but alot of resists and -numbers after each nuke, would say 44 mana 31 light, 4 enchant, thats what im going best debuff and not to big variance on the _BASE_ dd line,

 

[old.Thalion]

There's still the /assist command and the 50% heat debuff ... only thing we have to do is to teach all those manabombers how to use debuff

 

[inuyasha]

Heh

Well, i don't have much experience with this, but to get all maxxed resists is mainly a tank thing, and since i manage to kill a level 50 armsmaster using IP/FA/purge against me at level 33 as a light enchanter.....i belive it will be quite okey...i would like to see a mana enchanter try that for instance ))

The sun spec blast blows bigtime, and with it blows your mana, i will try as best as i can to train my local manabombers to debuff as well, but i belive i will be quite able to take down my targets with that light blast / increased effect zealot / increased effect stun quite easily =).

Are anyone aware of how weak that sunblast IS if you do not spec light? They are more instabile then a unspecced heal, and take at least 3 times its mana =)

I will go for 45 light, rest enchantment. No way im going to waste my point in mana just for a debuff With the enchantment spec, my pets cost less mana, its stats will be greatly increased and so its damage, and most important...my pet heal will work, so if people try to pitch it off before i want him to, i can actually heal more then 1/10 the pets hp =)

Half a enchanter is the pet...and that pet ROCKS with high light spec and some buffs =)

I have had 6 enchanters, though none 2 high, however i have spoken with high enchanters, also on the american pvp servers, and people are awfully happy with both light and mana, and everyone who have specced much enchantment whines =) Light is always going to be a power-spec for pvp enchanters.

Point Points, 33 season light ench (3 solo level 50 frags in three days...happy with the spec!!!"
Inuyasha: 42 hero

 

[Kobold]

Yup light ownz, cause of the uber high damage DD. But I would go 26 mana too, cause of the very handy heat resist debuff and a deacent pbaoe (so you can be at least a bit usefull in gorups PvE). Maybe some experiences from you light chanters out there...I bet most of you have 26 in mana right? and how high can echant line be when 26mana and 45 light?

 

[Salazar]

Enchant line will be only 13 then... but pets most important ability atleast PvP is to nuke/snare... PvE some decent tankpetbuffs wouldnt hurt... but lvl 26 pbaoe has been enough many times in keepdefences and stuff...

 

[Danya]

Re: Heh

Originally posted by inuyasha
Well, i don't have much experience with this, but to get all maxxed resists is mainly a tank thing, and since i manage to kill a level 50 armsmaster using IP/FA/purge against me at level 33 as a light enchanter.....i belive it will be quite okey...i would like to see a mana enchanter try that for instance )

I'd say you got lucky there.
Mana chanters can kill tanks in 3 nukes, most light chanters would be pushed to do it in 10.
The fact that they are baseline and use more power is irrelevant as they do a lot more damage due to the debuff.

 

[vulcan1]

Re: Re: Heh

Originally posted by Danyan

I'd say you got lucky there.
Mana chanters can kill tanks in 3 nukes, most light chanters would be pushed to do it in 10.
The fact that they are baseline and use more power is irrelevant as they do a lot more damage due to the debuff.

Ahem

10 nukes?

Add MoM 2 = 666 cap dmg x WP=2 = Crits Tank dead inside 3 hits, add to that mana 26 + MoC you got an awsome killing machine as its stands of now.

I suppose if we wanted debuff as well we still have a decent heat and cold debuff

My specs are light 46, Mana 26, Enchants 13.

Will only go mana if as stated in previous thread they nerff the DD output.

On a side note to Mythic & GOA.........Gimme epic armour thats usefull I have to wear basic robes that outstrips epic armour in every departments.


my 2 cents

 

[Spudgie]

Will you mana-bombers debuff cold for me - then you'll see what a light-spec eld can do to a tank

666dmg every 2.0secs without crits. IP won't save you there. 5 nukes max if you IP.

 

[Danya]

Re: Re: Re: Heh

Originally posted by vulcan1
Ahem

10 nukes?

Add MoM 2 = 666 cap dmg x WP=2 = Crits Tank dead inside 3 hits, add to that mana 26 + MoC you got an awsome killing machine as its stands of now.

666 cap you're unlikely to hit on a level 50 without a debuff. Assuming you do lets say 600 per nuke. Then assume the tank has capped heat, plus AoM 1. And a buff. 53% resist. You then loose 627*0.53=332 of your nuke to resists. So you hit for 268 (-332). Assume you crit 20% for an average 30% damage. That means your average nuke is 268*1.2*1.3 = 418. Tank has roughly 2200 hp, assume IP for 2000 and FA2 for 700.
4900 / 418 = 11.72 nukes.
So on average you'll have to nuke him 12 times to kill him.

Meanwhile the mana chanter hits him with a 50% debuff and nukes 4 times for about 550. Assuming he comes out of stun and IPs they're still getting more damage per nuke and nuking faster than a light chanter.

 

[old.Thalion]

Everyone is talking about 1vs1 fights only .... i always thought that i'm playing a team game .... i must have missed something.

So try to image what would happen if the Mana Chanter would cast the heat debuff and the light chanter his DDs .... most efficent way to use the mana.