Less Bug Abuse Rising Force

Sillent

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daoc_xianghua said:
it has been screenshotted with clock on so everyone can see how much time has past between 1st and 2dn ST (and there were like 1-2 more)
no point to deny it
dont ever use that bug again and i might be nice to not rightknow it


Hmm i dont wana make fun of blind ppl but we ALready reported it cause we wont it fixed too mate,and its already on rightnow maybe ????????And yes we lost some fights i got no problem in Accepting that, the problem is that the fights werent fg vs fg ?????And if Saying that we lost even using that KNOWN bug makes u better plz feel free to keep it for urself and ur guild
Yeah we won the abusers QQ they so damn bad And they cant win even with ST abuse, but when u say that dont forget it to write it down to BG cause group chat aint enough for all the ppl in ur RvR group
 

Graendel

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Puppet said:
'Oh wait you're an Alb nothing but an leeching scout who got his scout powerlevelled by a necro who abused the LoS-bug during SI-launch to gain erpeeees'.

rofl

:cheers:
 

Sillent

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Xxcalibur said:
tdd grp fought yesterday 2 times tucka grp : he used STT 3 times each battle. The funny part is they still lose.


ps: about bainshes . there is 0 bainshes active in GGs so u only can get killed by randoms bainshe.



Hmm saying u won makes u feel a lot stlonger ?Because i believe ur strength comes from the adds u got against us.Anyways As tzare already said we like the fights FG vs FG and even if we loose it worths playing cause ppl having fun and Learning more more.And we didnt know about the bug, at least i was way too much Busy mezzing/interupting etc etc(doing a sorcs job) to just count the timer on ST or Even see the recast timer.All ppl in RF Group didnt know of that bug and they learned it through Here.Thats why tucka posted it himself on Rightnow.We dont need to use any bug to win or get out and wtfpwn every1 and anythink ANd say WE ARE THE BEST we are undefeatable (kile some ppl think or like to think).We just like to Run our FG rvr group and have fights 8vs8 even if that includes loosing from better players.I hope u will understand that someday
 

Sarumancer

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in regards to the 'omg bug abusing shroomers'

have a chat with Prius, he's an excal alb whos just joined HDS on Prydwen,


I gave him a run through on animists and what they can and cannot do, and demonstrated the lovely 'snap to' issue.

go ahead, go ask him.
 

Xxcalibur

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Sillent said:
Hmm saying u won makes u feel a lot stlonger ?Because i believe ur strength comes from the adds u got against us.Anyways As tzare already said we like the fights FG vs FG and even if we loose it worths playing cause ppl having fun and Learning more more.And we didnt know about the bug, at least i was way too much Busy mezzing/interupting etc etc(doing a sorcs job) to just count the timer on ST or Even see the recast timer.All ppl in RF Group didnt know of that bug and they learned it through Here.Thats why tucka posted it himself on Rightnow.We dont need to use any bug to win or get out and wtfpwn every1 and anythink ANd say WE ARE THE BEST we are undefeatable (kile some ppl think or like to think).We just like to Run our FG rvr group and have fights 8vs8 even if that includes loosing from better players.I hope u will understand that someday

so he reported and keep abusing STT ? he can get banned by that
 

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I guarantee 90% of Friars in Albion DID NOT know about this "Bug"

Alot more do now !

Rightnowing it would have been the sensible thing to do - in the short term i think you will see alot more of this.

What I dont get is :

Chanter dps debuff : ok for a long time
Animist LoS issues : ok ad infinitum
Pet bug issues : still not fixed
Banshee LoS : not addressed yet
twf 1.70 : fixed

the list goes on...

But peeps say tucka can be "banned" I seriously doubt it !
 

Sillent

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Xxcalibur said:
so he reported and keep abusing STT ? he can get banned by that

Ermm no bud,tucka saw the post 1 run before he logs so he wasnt using it when he understood it, after some1 from guild said about the post tucka left 1 run later
 

Sillent

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Xxcalibur said:
some already reported him lets see what happens



Sure mate,but what part of he already reported himself u dont understand ???By being reported from some1 else makes u feel beter ?if it does ill go report him too :flame:
 

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Sillent said:
Yeah we won the abusers QQ they so damn bad And they cant win even with ST abuse, but when u say that dont forget it to write it down to BG cause group chat aint enough for all the ppl in ur RvR group

Heh, you shouldn't cry too loud , RF is perhaps the #1 guildgrp(s) on server when it comes to adding/zerging .. you name it.
 

Faith

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more than 1 friar?!?!

bored of reading after page 1 so this may have ben said


but i for 1 go to a lot of large battles. i HAVE Static Tempest. i use it.

could it be that when u see a Tempest and this guy is in the fight u assume they all come from him? his not the only friar in a lot of fights ya know,


just a simple solution theory there.
 

Sillent

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Coldbeard said:
Heh, you shouldn't cry too loud , RF is perhaps the #1 guildgrp(s) on server when it comes to adding/zerging .. you name it.

I dont see any1 crying, especially loud bud,and i didnt named anythink, use ur imagination more i like it :pAnd about adding/zerging (whatevah ^^) :eek2:
 

Tzare

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Xxcalibur said:
tdd grp fought yesterday 2 times tucka grp : he used STT 3 times each battle. The funny part is they still lose.

Sorry dude, we did´nt lose the first one, the one where first a fg of mids came by then another fg of hibs.

Puppet said:
Nope; but you can expect a semi-fixed group running deliberatly with a friar knows the strongpoint of the friar (resists + ST3) and is fully aware that ST3 has a timer too.

Well i´d say grapple and BG for this friar, ressists aint to much use agains melee group which most of them yesterday were.

Puppet said:
If their support keeps boxed up around the ST which is 'chain-casted' you can bet on it they know what they're doing.

Tucka has to stay close to the support due to BG.
 

Tzare

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Coldbeard said:
Heh, you shouldn't cry too loud , RF is perhaps the #1 guildgrp(s) on server when it comes to adding/zerging .. you name it.

You make me sad.
 

Tzare

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Tareregion said:
I'm sure that will upset him :(

And thats the reason I posted it?

Could have included the /rude spam he did at thowen when we got zerged by 2fg hibs+, but then again he does´nt zerg so it was prolly not him.
 

daoc_xianghua

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Azraeth said:
xianghua read my latest replies before u keep saying the same things over and over again!
and as for being so sure i was there and boxing up in ST makes me wonder about those screenshots,deffo wasnt u taking them cause i wasnt online at that time but u do seem pretty sure i did!

i didnt say U boxed up i said your GUILD boxed up on it
and it doesnt matter anyway, unimportant detail
if you run gg your actions or the actions of others in your guild have direct impact on the reputation of the guild
who exactly was in group is totally irrelevant
 

Scunner

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As this has been directed at my guild then i feel the need to reply even though i was not in the guild group last night or online at the time.

Firstly the fact your have labelled my entire guild as abusers and cheats is not very factual. I have played this game since inception and those that know we would know that i would not tollerate this kind of behaviour in my guild. Rising Force has always played fair and always gone about is business without whining or causing grief.

Your statement about knowing the guild or not liking us doesnt really bother me to be honest as you don't know the guild at all. I have met many of my guild in real life and played with them for 3 or so years and all of them are nice individual and play fair so branding my guild like you have says a lot about you.

Tucka is a very genuine player who would not intentionally abuse a bug if he knew about it. I have talked to him and have no intention of going into the details within the post. He also reported the "bug" to right now and is actually quite upset by the whole matter. Instead of everyone being judge, jury and execution why don't you just let the powers at be look into it and decide. I can put money ont he fact almost 90% of friars in albion on this server and others did not know about this "bug" before this post.

Without regard to my guild so called "adding" all the time is crap too. We have on a number of occassions including Monday of this week had 2 fg running but both have run independent despite facing superior numbers most of the time. It's never been about wining for my guild and we have never proclaimed to be the best. It's about competing as a team and enjoying fun with our friends not trying to deliberately cheat to win.

Personally, you can flame all you like cause i know tucka and know he would not "deliberately" abuse a bug. I will back Tucka 100% both as a player and friend.

So many assumptions posted and constant whine. The only thing you have achieved through this thread is making others aware of a bug, the rest of it is rather pathetic and could have been covered off by contacting the appropriate support rather than here.
 

TheBinarySurfer

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1) Why bother flaming them on here? You only end up looking vindictive and childish whether the accusation is true or not.

2) Evidence would be nice since youve chosen to post on a public forum.

3) I find it somewhat ironic that several hibs are incensed at the supposed bug abuse when several where whistling quietly and inspecting the ceiling or denying the existence of multiple class bugs in their realm (yes alb has some too) and the intentional abuse of those bugs on a strategic scale recently (NOT saying that give albs a lisence to bug abuse, just find it amusing).

4) Yes puppets comment does have some merit about the stereotypes.However stereotypes usually have some grounding in fact...

5) I know quite a few of RF and doubt they would deliberately abuse a bug.

6) I disagree that the actions of one can tarnish or indeed damn an entire guild. Most guilds have a bad apple in them expecially some of the more hardcore rvr guilds where people can become tempted to do anything to win fights - its up to the officers/GMs to deal with said bad apple.

Note: Im NOT saying tucka did anything, i wasnt there and i havent seen anything remotely resembling proof. Just my opinion...
 

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Well Ethilds aint so innocent himself when it comes to bug abuse is he? As is proven by the ban he himself as just recieved <shrugs> Maybe we should start to flame his guild as cheats and bug abusers?
 

Axuk

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Aww damn you Corran and i was waiting to see if Ethlids was going to be big enough to come here and tell everyone he wont be around for a few days as a result of texture abusing.
 

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Tzare said:
Well i´d say grapple and BG for this friar, ressists aint to much use agains melee group which most of them yesterday were.

I ment the things specific to friar. Paladin could BG/grapple like a friar and give your merc endurance for example.

Tucka has to stay close to the support due to BG.

close and boxed-up are 2 different things. Having played a support-class till a reasonable realmrank I know support doesnt box up. If you put sorc+cleric+cleric+friar boxed-up you loose due to 1 dude AE-interrupting you all at the same time. Having fighted your group often enough I notice your cleric is NEVER close to the other cleric AND sorc + friar.

If you boxed up ---> you all knew wtf Tucka was doing and that makes you just as unsportive as Tucka himselves who abused the bug. Dont act all innocent with the 'we box all support around 1 person' because even a RR2 cleric knows that would make him very vulnerable to chain-interruption ---> he cant heal --> you loose.

If you boxed up around the ST3 your support (and basically all of you) knew what was happening. And if you add that into the equation + the fact it was more or less a guildgroup means quite a few of the guildies where knowingly bug-abusing. Perhaps unfair to tar over a guild because 4~5 members out of a FG are acting around a bug; but if thats what happened you cant blame the Hibs for saying so.
 

Elendar

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technically (other than difference in power of abilities) this seems exactly the same as banelords using stun immunity to spam stuff
although chain st is rather more evul, could keep someone stunned forever ;o
 

Xxcalibur

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you boxed on tucka knowing he used STT each minute ( sorc +2 cleric + friar) , i only hope u dont do it again. I f u do it maybe we will have to send that .avi somewhere

I generally like the fights vs you guys, and i hope this does not impact in your guild reputation..
 

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Coldbeard said:
Heh, you shouldn't cry too loud , RF is perhaps the #1 guildgrp(s) on server when it comes to adding/zerging .. you name it.

Hmm, i can name 3 hib groups and 1 mid group that worse at adding on
their realm Vs Random enemy realm.

Adding on Enemy realm vs Enemy realm though annoying is bare-able to me. Happens to me and i do it back. But when it your own realm vs someone then there are much worse guilds then RF (at least in my personal experience)
 

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Axuk said:
Aww damn you Corran and i was waiting to see if Ethlids was going to be big enough to come here and tell everyone he wont be around for a few days as a result of texture abusing.

Very much doubt he would. It one thing to accuse others of abuse and dirty their name (wether true or not aint my place to say) but it complete different when it would envolve him admitting he abuses bugs as well.

Could actually list a load more people from all realms that abuse bugs but why bother...

Just hope Ethilds enjoys his ban for something as stupid as wanting to jump on a wall that you normally cant in order to gain the advantage over 1fg of GoP and about 1fg of solo people whilst camping the villa with 3fg <shrug<
 

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