Learning maths can be fun too!

[Cadelin]

Hello children!

Today we are going to be learning how to add and subtract! Seeing as most of you are capable of using your parents credit card numbers to pay for an online game we will skip the beginner class and move onto some slightly harder stuff.

Lets start with our first equation:

[Number of albs] + [Number of hibs] + [Number of mids] + [Number of anon people] = [total number of people]

Now for some people this might be a bit confusing so lets go over some examples before I hand out the problem set.

Example 1.
Q.There are 1000 people on the server. When you do a /who in albion there are 320 people, when you do a /who in hibernia there are 240 and when you do a /who in midgard you get 260. Hoy many anonomous people are there on the server?

A. Lets go back to the equation at the top. Putting the numbers in we have:
320 + 240 + 260 +anon = 1000
which leads to:
820 + anon = 1000
therefore:
anon = 180 people.

As you can children, there are quite a few anonomous people and it would be wrong to make any sweeping generalisations about the population balance without first knowing this number!


Example 2.
Q.There are 800 people on the server. When you do a /who in hibernia you get 200. When you do a /who in midgard you get 190. How many albions are online?

A.This is a trick question! It is actually NOT possible to know how many albions are online just from these numbers. For those of you who are unsure lets go back to the equation again:

albs + 200 + 190 + anon = 800
which leads to:
albs + 390 + anon = 800
therefore:
albs + anon = 410

As you can see the total number of albs + anons is 410 however as anons are made up of ALL realms we cannot say exactly how many albs are online. In the previous example there were 180 anon and if a similar number were anon this time albions would only have 230 people.

Now for the real problems. Post your answers below and NO copying!

1) There are 230 albs, 220 mids and 210 hibs online and the total on the server is 860. How many anon are there?

2) Albion are trying a relic raid against hibernia. A hib does a /who and sees 200 people online. A /who from somebody in midgard reveals 230 online. There are 780 people online in total. Scout reports reveal that there are 110 albs attacking the keep. How many albs are online? How many people are attacking the keep?

3) There are 600 people online. A midgard does a /who and sees 140 people online. He then logs into his hib/exc account and does a /who and sees 190 people online. A /who of albion reveals 180 people. He then says that there are 90 anonomous people online. What has he done wrong?

4) There are 750 people online. A /who of hibernia reveals 200 people a /who of midgard reveals 190. How many albions are online? Can we say that because of this either hibernia or midgard is massively underpopulated?

5) There are 550 people online. Somebody on FH says that he has got data from /who for each realm and that there are 205 albs, 180 mids and 170 hibs online. He then uses this to justify the current trends in the game. Does he have enough information to do this?

Anybody wishing to comment in any threads involving realm populations should have got at least 80% on this test. I will hand out the answers later.
Next week we will take this further by looking at the number of people in each class in each realm as well!


P.S. Does somebody want to start a grats thread for all the people who pass the test?

 

[Jupiter]

i like humour

 

[InertiaSlave]

I am stuck on first question. Will never pass

 

[Ethild]

You would statistically expect the % of anon people per realm to be relatively constant across all three realms. Thus the number of anonymous people could be divided proportionally using the non-anonymous figures as reference. Sure this wont give the exact value of players for each realm, but it will give a very close guide. I'd suspect the result would be within +/- 3% of the real figure easily.

 

[Araudry]

last time i played hib 3/4 of their realm was anon then u come here with numbers?
and did u know mid had 9/10 of their realm anon?
alb dont know whats anon i think so thats why we have more ppl on




















JK

 

[Sarumancer]

statistically speaking, albs will have the most on anon, since they have the most players all round

that, and most players also correlates to the highest potential number of buffbots, which also tend to be anon,

therefore, your clever analysis doesnt change the picture much, Albs will have the most players online anon or otherwise regardless of what spin is put on it.



ps Hibs attitude to being constantly double teamed and outnumbered is this "ooh a target rich environment, who shall we shro... uhm, kill first?"

 

[Animus]

1) There are 230 albs, 220 mids and 210 hibs online and the total on the server is 860. How many anon are there? 200

2) Albion are trying a relic raid against hibernia. A hib does a /who and sees 200 people online. A /who from somebody in midgard reveals 230 online. There are 780 people online in total. Scout reports reveal that there are 110 albs attacking the keep. How many albs are online? Anything from 110-350 depending on anons. How many people are attacking the keep? 110? Scout reports doesnt say if its albs or mids...

3) There are 600 people online. A midgard does a /who and sees 140 people online. He then logs into his hib/exc account and does a /who and sees 190 people online. A /who of albion reveals 180 people. He then says that there are 90 anonomous people online. What has he done wrong? He used his Exc/hib?

4) There are 750 people online. A /who of hibernia reveals 200 people a /who of midgard reveals 190. How many albions are online? Can we say that because of this either hibernia or midgard is massively underpopulated? 360 - anons.

5) There are 550 people online. Somebody on FH says that he has got data from /who for each realm and that there are 205 albs, 180 mids and 170 hibs online. He then uses this to justify the current trends in the game. Does he have enough information to do this? First off you got 5 players too much? Could be due to logins/logouts/LD's etc. So in short: No.

Prolly all wrong, but those are my answers xD

 

[Foadon]

how leuw can u geuw, u went through all that just to whine?
just QQ next time, atleast the replies are more fun to make then

i give u a 8 out a 10 for originality

 

[Tirfo]

Paper and wax crayons > your maths quiz, sorry

 

[Boggy]

Albs have superior numbers. Everyone knows it. Albs know it. GOA knows it. Why should anyone care what figures people post here? It's not like it can change the reality of there being an Alb under every stone.

 

[remi]

GOA puts a +200 people on XML feed to make server more attractive xD

 

[InertiaSlave]

So when it says there are 79 people online on pryd, there's really -121?

 

[Dorin]

So when it says there are 79 people online on pryd, there's really -121?

exactly

 

[Ischtap]

...

Lets start with our first equation:

[Number of albs] + [Number of hibs] + [Number of mids] + [Number of anon people] = [total number of people]

Now for some people this might be a bit confusing so lets go over some examples before I hand out the problem set.

Example 1.
Q.There are 1000 people on the server. When you do a /who in albion there are 320 people, when you do a /who in hibernia there are 240 and when you do a /who in midgard you get 260. Hoy many anonomous people are there on the server?

A. Lets go back to the equation at the top. Putting the numbers in we have:
320 + 240 + 260 +anon = 1000
which leads to:
820 + anon = 1000
therefore:
anon = 180 people.

As you can children, there are quite a few anonomous people and it would be wrong to make any sweeping generalisations about the population balance without first knowing this number!


Example 2.
Q.There are 800 people on the server. When you do a /who in hibernia you get 200. When you do a /who in midgard you get 190. How many albions are online?

A.This is a trick question! It is actually NOT possible to know how many albions are online just from these numbers. For those of you who are unsure lets go back to the equation again:

albs + 200 + 190 + anon = 800
which leads to:
albs + 390 + anon = 800
therefore:
albs + anon = 410

As you can see the total number of albs + anons is 410 however as anons are made up of ALL realms we cannot say exactly how many albs are online. In the previous example there were 180 anon and if a similar number were anon this time albions would only have 230 people.

....

Sorry, will not answer your questions as you are not qualified to grade them properly.

Your first example had 1000 characters online with 180 anon. In your second example the number of characters is 800, but you equate a 'similar' number of anon people with 180 again.

 

[Crookshanks]

The points valid though - there have been a number of threads recently saying "omg my realms only got xxx players, there must be yyy in <not_my_realm_1> and zzz in <not_my_realm_2> - gifv bonuses!". We're not in a position to comment without knowing the /anon numbers.

you would statistically expect the % of anon people per realm to be relatively constant across all three realms. Thus the number of anonymous people could be divided proportionally using the non-anonymous figures as reference. Sure this wont give the exact value of players for each realm, but it will give a very close guide. I'd suspect the result would be within +/- 3% of the real figure easily.

Not necessarily - I believe each realm attracts different types of people. I think Alb tends to attract the more general (aka. casual) player, who is less likely to have a bb. Mid bb have end regen which is a big help for farming tanks, and certainly my excursion onto mid/excal (although this is possibly not indicative of mid/pryd) showed that bb were pretty commonplace, far more so than pryd/alb.

I'm currently enjoying pryd/hib (leveling a druid). I can say for certain there is a huge amount more 1-40 pve players in alb than hib. Performing a /who <my_level -5> <my_level +5> regularly shows 5-10 people - just enough to form a single xp group in the whole realm. Without the free level every 2 days, I almost certainly wouldn't have chosen a druid to play.

 

[AngelHeal]

Keep posts to English only please.

 

[Straef]

Vind ik ook -.-
What's with the 'proud to be dutch' atitude, angelheal :x

 

[Phusion]

hehe das ff balen

 

[Belomar]

[retarded spam]

I'm sorry, but shut up, AngelHeal.

 

[Bone_Idle]

I still dont know how long a piece of string is.

 

[Aran Thule]

I still dont know how long a piece of string is.

Bah, you should have asked a luri.

Its twice as long as half a piece of string. <grin>

 

[Boggy]

Bah, you should have asked a luri.

Its twice as long as half a piece of string. <grin>

Not if one half is shorter than the other!

 

[Aran Thule]

Ah but that only happens if the end is all messy and they are tied up.

I asked one if he considered himself to be a piece of string and he said:
"Sorry im a frayed knot"

 

[Jupiter]

ibtl...... u ever up a down pipe? u ever get rode in a boat?




















or rowed for the slow ones

 

[haarewin]

Ah but that only happens if the end is all messy and they are tied up.

I asked one if he considered himself to be a piece of string and he said:
"Sorry im a frayed knot"

/groan

 

[Jjuraa]

Impure Mathematics
------ -----------
To prove once and for all that math can be fun, we
present: Wherein it is related how that paragon of womanly
virtue, young Polly Nomial (our heroine) is accosted by that
notorious villain Curly Pi, and factored (oh horror!!!)
Once upon a time (1/t) pretty little Polly Nomial was
strolling across a field of vectors when she came to the boundary
of a singularly large matrix. Now Polly was convergent, and her
mother had made it an absolute condition that she must never
enter such an array without her brackets on. Polly, however,
who had changed her variables that morning and was feeling
particularly badly behaved, ignored this condition on the basis
that it was insufficient and made her way in amongst the complex
elements. Rows and columns closed in on her from all sides.
Tangents approached her surface. She became tensor and tensor.
Quite suddendly two branches of a hyperbola touched her at a
single point. She oscillated violently, lost all sense of
directrix, and went completely divergent. As she tripped over a
square root that was protruding from the erf and plunged
headlong down a steep gradient. When she rounded off once more,
she found herself inverted, apparently alone, in a non-Euclidean
space.
She was being watched, however. That smooth operator,
Curly Pi, was lurking inner product. As his eyes devoured her
curvilinear coordinates, a singular expression crossed his face.
He wondered, "Was she still convergent?" He decided to
integrate properly at once.
Hearing a common fraction behind her, Polly rotated and
saw Curly Pi approaching with his power series extrapolated.
She could see at once by his degenerate conic and dissipative
that he was bent on no good.
"Arcsinh," she gasped.
"Ho, ho," he said, "What a symmetric little asymptote
you have I can see you angles have lots of secs."
"Oh sir," she protested, "keep away from me I haven't
got my brackets on."
"Calm yourself, my dear," said our suave operator, "your
fears are purely imaginary."
"I, I," she thought, "perhaps he's not normal but
homologous."
"What order are you?" the brute demanded.
"Seventeen," replied Polly.
Curly leered "I suppose you've never been operated on."
"Of course not," Polly replied quite properly, "I'm
absolutely convergent."
"Come, come," said Curly, "let's off to a decimal place
I know and I'll take you to the limit."
"Never," gasped Polly.
"Abscissa," he swore, using the vilest oath he knew.
His patience was gone. Coshing her over the coefficient with a
log until she was powerless, Curly removed her discontinuities.
He stared at her significant places, and began smoothing out her
points of inflection. Poor Polly. The algorithmic method was
now her only hope. She felt his digits tending to her asymptotic
limit. Her convergence would soon be gone forever.
There was no mercy, for Curly was a heavyside operator.
Curly's radius squared itself; Polly's loci quivered. He
integrated by parts. He integrated by partial fractions. After
he cofactored, he performed runge - kutta on her. The complex
beast even went all the way around and did a contour
integration. What an indignity - to be multiply connected on
her first integration. Curly went on operating until he
completely satisfied her hypothesis, then he exponentiated and
became completely orthogonal.
When Polly got home that night, her mother noticed that
she was no longer piecewise continuous, but had been truncated
in several places But it was to late to differentiate now. As
the months went by, Polly's denominator increased monotonically.
Finally she went to L'Hopital and generated a small but
pathological function which left surds all over the place and
drove Polly to deviation.
The moral of our sad story is this: "If you want to
keep your expressions convergent, never allow them a single
degree of freedom."

slightly off topic, but it made me laugh XD some people try too hard

 

[Awarkle]

ok if 1000 people are online and 240 are hibs and 260 are mids then albs = 500

tbh the only reason to go anon is the following.


1. eveyone hates you and has you on their friends list to hurl abuse when you log on.
2. Your the only lgm spellcrafter on your server and you would like to kill somthing instead of watching a green bar and blowing up
3. You meet some lvl 5 person who you help with some free levels and money and now you cant shift them even by chain killing them in the middle of some epic zone.
4. your organising a relic raid and are so paranoid that you think your realm has spys
5. Your the only animist online and someone needs an artifact killing with a bot and chanter.
6. you named your Druid/cleric/shammy bot IgiveFreeBuffsPmBob and are tired of constant messaging.

just face facts noone cares

 

[Jeriraa]

Most of the anon people would be bots. Going by the number of clerics, shamans and druids on Prydwen Albion outweights...

and the rest is just anon Necros PL'ing Reavers.


PS: I missed the topic didnt I? Always the same with me and tests.