LD problems with new computer

Soulspirit

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Since I have a new computer (about 3 weeks now) I ld within 10 minutes ingame. Most of the time I even ld almost instantly. The strange thing is I have no problems with other online games, be it fps or mmorpg. It's really something DAoC related. My computer:

Athlon 3200+
1024 mb RAM
Radeon x800 pro

I don''t have the slitest idea what is causing this. I tried to install the newest ATI driver, but after I install it and the computer reboots, all I get is an error that it can't run the .exe file ("can't initialize blabla"). I suppose this has nothing to do with the LD problem, but if anyone has an answer to this strange problem aswell please help.

So... any suggestions? :eek7:
 

Ancient Seagul

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Do Start / RUN / DXDiag. What version of DirectX are you running ? If its not version 9, update to version 9(c) from Microsoft

Check you've got the latest possible drivers for your graphics card

Do a complete virus check and make sure you're firewalled and your AV software is running in the background.

Use Adaware from Lavasoft and make sure you quarantine and delete all spyware.

Get your ISP to do a line test on your data line. Also worth doing a speedtest on your router (you didn't specify if you're got 512kbs or dial up).

If you're connected to the internet via a cable (I'm wireless ;p) check the integrity of the cable. No twists, turns, or lesions in the plastic.

Do Start / RUN / msconfig, and disable all start services

DAOC is EXTREMELY sensitive to anything running in the background

Remove DAP or Zone Alarms from your PC. They attract tonnes of spyware.

Check your BIOS doesn't need updating.

Check processessor speed and temperature

Come back when you've done all that and let us know if you still have probs.

:drink:
 

Tsukiko

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Also, (this was my problem, and might not apply to you) if you use a network and have the 10/100mbit cards setup, make sure the new computer you hook up is the same also, I had a 1gbit network card integrated on the asus K8V SE deluxe, and that caused me to LD everytime I played DAOC or other online games on it.

After disabling it, I put in a 10/100mbit, and no problems. :)

Kiko
 

Soulspirit

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First of all thanks for the fast reply.

Ancient Seagul said:
Do Start / RUN / DXDiag. What version of DirectX are you running ? If its not version 9, update to version 9(c) from Microsoft

DirectX 9.0c installed

Ancient Seagul said:
Check you've got the latest possible drivers for your graphics card

See my first post, I'm having problems with that.

Ancient Seagul said:
Do a complete virus check and make sure you're firewalled and your AV software is running in the background.

- Did a full system scan and no virusses found.
- My router has an intergrated firewall.
- Sry but what's AV software? How do I check it is running? :(

Ancient Seagul said:
Use Adaware from Lavasoft and make sure you quarantine and delete all spyware.

I've done this a couple of times the past few days, and every time I do it there are new infected files. Is there anything I can do about this?

Ancient Seagul said:
Get your ISP to do a line test on your data line. Also worth doing a speedtest on your router (you didn't specify if you're got 512kbs or dial up).

I did a speedtest on some random site (http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/). I have cable and the outcome was 1 mbps

Ancient Seagul said:
If you're connected to the internet via a cable (I'm wireless ;p) check the integrity of the cable. No twists, turns, or lesions in the plastic.

The connection problem is only DAoC related so I don't think that is the problem.

Ancient Seagul said:
Do Start / RUN / msconfig, and disable all start services.

DAOC is EXTREMELY sensitive to anything running in the background

When I do that I disable things like my virusscanner, and my mouse doesn't work anymore. I did disable some though, but still LD problems.

Ancient Seagul said:
Remove DAP or Zone Alarms from your PC. They attract tonnes of spyware.

That's probably why I have infected files on my computer every time I run Adaware. How do I remove DAP or Zone Alarms? I'm not sure what they are.

Ancient Seagul said:
Check your BIOS doesn't need updating.

cba at the moment :p
Don't think that's the problem

Ancient Seagul said:
Check processessor speed and temperature.

How can I check processor speed? And what temperature is normal?


Tsukiko said:
Also, (this was my problem, and might not apply to you) if you use a network and have the 10/100mbit cards setup, make sure the new computer you hook up is the same also, I had a 1gbit network card integrated on the asus K8V SE deluxe, and that caused me to LD everytime I played DAOC or other online games on it.

After disabling it, I put in a 10/100mbit, and no problems.

Kiko

Have no idea what you're saying really. I run on a network with 2 wireless laptops and 2 wired desktop PC's, being the PC I play on the mother. Both desktop PC's have different network cards, that's all I know. I'll check for more info later, though I doubt this is the problem cause I can play other online games without problems.

As you can see I'm a real expert in computers :(
 

Klonk

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"cba at the moment :p
Don't think that's the problem"

It well might. Lots of bios settings affect games.

However, my tip is to check your voltage on your system. Go in Bios and look for and Voltage info (often under menues called System Info/Status), the actual voltage should not be below the stated value. If it is, try increase the stated value by one pip, see if it helps, it helped me.
 

Job

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Process of elimination, do you have access to your old pc or other parts?

Replace ,if you know how ,one thing at a time, firstly video card, then memory, try a seperate network card or change your dial up modem....each time checking if problem goes away.

A pain in the ass ..yes, but every time you clear an item it stops that dreadful, maybe it's this? loop you end up in.
 

Ancient Seagul

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I use nvidia, so don't know the ATI website - do a google search and download the latest driver for your graphics card

AV = Anti virus

There are five things you can do to avoid spyware: (1) ensure you have Adaware on your PC and set it up so it starts when you boot up; (2) Change your email address; (3) stay clear of porn sites or on line casinos etc; (4) If you have Download Accelerator Plus ("DAP") on your PC remove it immediately; (5) same for Zone Alarm. Both attract spyware

Be careful what start up services you are removing. Keep your AV and input devices running !
 

Nightrider

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This worked for med as a XP user (DSL or cable modem connection ONLY) Cut and pasted from support.darkageofcamelot.com

For Windows 2000/XP users:

Right-click My Computer and select Properties. Next, click on the HARDWARE tab and the click on the DEVICE MANAGER option. Under the section for NETWORK ADAPTERS, right click your network card and select Properties. Under the advanced TAB under MEDIA TYPE, set the value option on the right to 10mb half duplex mode.


For Windows 9x/ME users:

Right-click My Computer and select Properties. Next, click on the DEVICE MANAGER option. Under the section for NETWORK ADAPTERS, right-click your network card and select properties. Under the advanced TAB under MEDIA TYPE, set the value option on the right to 10mb half duplex mode.

If you are using an onboard network card and have a PCI network card available to you, disabling the onboard network card and using a physical PCI network card has been known to solve the Link Dead issue. Please refer to your motherboard manual on how to disable your onboard network card.
 

frogster

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To sum up, this only occurs in DAoC? Therefore its highly unlikely to be a hardware problem, so id leave your bios alone. Assuming that is, you play other computer intensive games online with no problems.

That leaves either software or route to server.
Do any of your other machines on your network have this problem? If not, then this rules out your router and ISP (including connection to server)
There is a small possibilty that your new computer happen to be installed at the same time the problem developed.

Download ping plotter (google is your friend) or tracert to the DAoC server you play on. (Only worth doing if other machines on network are having problems)
Download and install the latest network card driver from your motherboard vendor.
REDOWNLOAD your ati drivers and disable the Antivirus before you install. If this doesnt work, or you have your mouse problem again, then i suggest that you think about uninstalling your AV software and trying again. The fact that you lose your mouse and you cant initialise your driver.exe suggests that there is a problem there anyway. Your AV could be preventing the driver.exe caching to your harddrive.
On the subject of caching, if its crashing to desktop rather than LD'ing in the traditional sense, look at your Virtual memory.
Also, try reinstalling DAoC
If all else fails, then good ol' Format C:
ensure you have the lastest drivers for ALL your components including motherboard/networkcard/graphics/sound etc, either on a separate partition or burnt to CD. I for one never install drivers for the provided CD and always download from the provider. This way you have the latest and more often, more stable drivers available. :O

Hope this helps :O
 

Zoolis

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problem fixxed? i had this problem after i bought new cpu/motherboard - i runned Daoc trough the network card on motherboard - LDed all the time in Daoc but all other games worked perfect so i changed back to my realtek network card and it runs perfect since then.
 

Frosen

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Do you get the 'you went link dead screen' or do you just crash to desktop ?
 

Soulspirit

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Frosen said:
Do you get the 'you went link dead screen' or do you just crash to desktop ?

yes

I tried almost everything you guys told me. I still haven't managed to install the latest ATI driver (still same problem, even when AV disabled). Btw frogster, I don't loose my mouse after I've installed the new driver, just the .exe (CLI.exe I think it was) initialize problem. I tried to change voltage of RAM, changing the networkcard options, reinstalling DAoC etc etc. Pingplotter gave possitive resolts. I'll install DAoC on the old system and see if it works. I'm almost sure it does, the old system hasn't changed at all, networkcard and router are still the same.
 

Comos

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had the same prob, but fixed it by using 3rd party software to configure network devices. I'm currently in a complicated network setup. Using 3 PC's at home. PC1 , PC2 and laptop.
I got 2 asus wireless lan cards in PC1 and PC2 and a wireless pcmcia card in laptop. PC1 also has an oboard 1GB lan card, and PC2 has the same one (same mobo) and an extra 100 mbps lan card. Now currently, PC1 has a soft AP enabled on which the laptop can connect. this connection, together with the onboard lan card is bridged. PC2 also has a soft AP enabled, but I allways connect to PC1's with laptop. that connection (of pc 2) is bridged with the onboard lan. the other network card on pc2, the 100mbps one is not being used at the moment, but isnt disabled either.

still following? :p

Internet is on PC1. laptop and PC2 can use internet fine, np. PC2 uses the 1gb lan, and the laptop the wireless via the Access point of PC1.
Now here's where the prob was. Daoc was, just like yours, ld'ing on PC2 after about 10 min. Changing to the 100mbps card didn't help (it formed a 1GB to 100mb setup which can give probs apparently as said in an earlier post). I tried disabling some cards, like the wireless one from PC2, which wasnt being used anyway, or the 100mbps one, didnt work either. Then I installed the 3rd party software from asus on it again (came with the wireless card) and it disables windows ability to configure the network. The asus thing is mainly to setup the wifi card, but it has 1 config screen to configure a network bridge, so I could do all that there as well. After I put the asus software back on the PC2 (which normally isnt needed at all, cuz the wifi isnt used on PC2 as I said before), the prob was solved and DaoC runs perfectly.

Now, I'm sure if there are other 3rd party progs out there to configure those settings, maybe someone can help you get a url for it... but this clearly proves that there's some setting that the asus tool fixes and the normal windows setup doesnt, that makes you go ld.

At least that's what I think, I doubt it's a hardware prob.
 

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