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Belomar

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Xajorkith said:
Is that all you can do, flame me? Oh well what ever floats your boat.
I'm sorry, I just can't help being amused when people talk about Albion as "easy mode" and name "OP sorcs" as one of the main factors of Albion doing well on Excalibur. It's more a case of realm spirit, although I do agree that having an opposing realm perform one alarmclock/redbull relic raid after another is dispiriting; in no way do I personally support such raids.

Anyway, I do believe that clustering will help; Albion on Prydwen is most definitely the underdog despite having the highest population, and this is due to a serious case of low motivation in the realm as a whole. In contrast, Hib/Prydwen has shown unerringly high motivation ever since NF was introduced, and rarely are Hib keeps and towers anything else than green. Midgard on Prydwen is in the middle of the foodchain, with occasionally high drive for realm defense, and occasional tendencies for zerging. In that regard, the marriage of Excalibur and Prydwen should be a happy one.
 

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Xajorkith said:
As I led the Mid offence, I know precisely how many I had, I had 56 at the two attempts at Berk, slightly less ( some had left cos of zerg) when we took Surs.

And I estimated Mid force on Berks at a little over 50 so not a bad guess really :)
 

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agree with mids ac raids are lame.

however with what alb did yesterday it proves we dont need ac raids.

i do wish mids wouldnt give up so easy. Yes the "mob" did decide to punish the mids for attacking alb, and punished u where.

our motivation was for fun.... and realm mission.

I would gladly fight a huge zerg, i DIED SEVERAL TIMES, but i just got up again and got back into it.

I logged at 12, so 7pm to 12 am uk time is primetime.

mids u lost, fair and square due to lack of real balls.

If our relic mission was in hib, they would have been attacked, blame mythic/goa all our missions are MID....regardless so it seems.

Hibs started, Mids added, Albs finished it.......fact.
 

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Xajorkith said:
Alb keep taking the relics in the early hours, there is no need to. Alb could have done it by planning a raid, but Alb took easy mode (as usual).
This pisses off Mids who then say " Corleth why Relic Raid Alb? They'll just AC us again, it's pointless", this now means I don't get numbers for raids.
Like I said Alb can help by doing PT raids, and rebuking their realm mates who do AC raids. The low population realms are now fighting high population realms that have 20% bonus that was achieved through "non sporting" behaviour.

Secondly I empathise with Gear, I don't think he was being a smart ass. He was "forced" to advertise the raid, because he can't get the numbers by any other means.
He’s trying to get some form of unity together, much is the same as I am trying to do. Mid and Hib don’t have the “create zerg” button, everything has to be planned and advertised.

I of course knew of Gears raid, which is why I attacked too, and we still lost.

It wasn’t cross realming either, fecking hibs turned up at Surs Keep and we got into a scrap that meant we didn’t get Surs t4 in time, hibs also kept trying to break our port at surs t3… which meant we killed them as much as the albs.



As I led the Mid offence, I know precisely how many I had, I had 56 at the two attempts at Berk, slightly less ( some had left cos of zerg) when we took Surs. We couldn't even fill the two boats.


Is that all you can do, flame me? Oh well what ever floats your boat.


I agree I dont like nighttime raids too, mainly because I wanna be in the raids and cant at night(like most people, albs too) BUT you(not just you but most nonalbs) keeps blaiming every alb on they server for the 10 ppl doing this. Thats get a little tiresome to listen to and after I while albs look at at a thread and think(more alb bashing) and write FU all non albs even though they prolly agree with you. Mostly all I read here is how big an idiot I am(just for playing albion) Making me think mids/hibs must be stupid and then turn to defend other albs even if I dont agree with them and that gets us nowhere.
The AC RR's are annoying but you cant expect the rest of the albs(99%) to enforce how other players play. a Solution could be that 30 peeps have to be in relic room for a relic to be picked up. maybe even they have to be in same BG. But there is never solutions here, only whine. nerf this class, nerf that class(because I am not playing it) Some classes are stronger than others. WLs are only a problem because there is so many of them. Heretic is an nice class(for the mnonster) but there is not that many in RvR and since monster dont give the caster rps not many play it. I see a fight 60 vs 90 and someone actually whine about Sorcs? *lol* thats pure lame, maybe 5 sorcs tops in that group with RR5+ MoC+ml9 pet ect. they where NOT the deciding factor.(not talking fg rvr atm) But I have been on raids where 5 WLs insta killed 30 albs. or a Bainshee kill loads too. and I hate that but live with it because we are usually more. But then I log in a read the whine again. HAHA albs are noobs they cant kill 5 WL's. So its actually no matter what you do as an alb you get whine. if you loose a relic you are imbiciles if you win it you zerg with higher numbers. If you kill someone you are OP, if you dont you are a Noob. All in all we may not all be 10 year old kids, but the majority here sure act like they are.
 

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Sollac said:
agree with mids ac raids are lame.

however with what alb did yesterday it proves we dont need ac raids.

i do wish mids wouldnt give up so easy. Yes the "mob" did decide to punish the mids for attacking alb, and punished u where.

our motivation was for fun.... and realm mission.

I would gladly fight a huge zerg, i DIED SEVERAL TIMES, but i just got up again and got back into it.

I logged at 12, so 7pm to 12 am uk time is primetime.

mids u lost, fair and square due to lack of real balls.

If our relic mission was in hib, they would have been attacked, blame mythic/goa all our missions are MID....regardless so it seems.

Hibs started, Mids added, Albs finished it.......fact.

The problem with Mids is that they are slightly brighter than you Sollac, they know if they die they feed rp's to the other side. Giving RP to other side means more RA's...

Secondly Midgard also know that to fight a zerg of 120 with 44 is pointless, and time is better spent in PvE. Keeps can be taken back later, at the end of the day keeps in Albs hands is better for us, we have nothing to loose (except DF) and we save our BPs.

Before you tell Mid to get balls, I suggest you find brains.
 

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Xajorkith said:
Secondly Midgard also know that to fight a zerg of 120 with 44 is pointless,

Zergs die to fewer numbers all the time. Usually if you look at any screenshots of 'the Alb zerg' you'll see very very many people who are low rr - probably don't have a ToA template and purge.

To fight a zerg of 120 with 44 isn't pointless, is possible and (given your logic about rps) would give the 44 very many more rps than the 120.

Your logic on rps is also flawed in that by not defending you allow Albs to do two realm missions thats 8k per person in the zerg.
 

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Mas said:
albionvsfg.jpg


Kinda repetetive, this ran into an empty keep, not even a relic keep, in the space of 5 secs. Gratz to skillz unknown, hmmph and you wonder why people roll warlocks :twak: (Note my 48 healer there not warlock)


Woot!!! Im the Avalonian Myrmidon mezzed (as usual) in that pic!!!
 

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I'm mezzed in the top right of the screen, and there's Froboz in the bottom right running to AE MOC nuke the shit ot of someone. Oh Froboz, how you taunt me so with your suicidal moccing. Btw use Catacombs, TOA is SO ugly!
 

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instead of all whine here whine at crs imo

those french bastards dont even got a clue how to spell cluster (cluzter in french prolly) and island (izlant)

its tem who ruinin it all , cluster should have arrived 2 months ago still we wait and everyone cba 2 defend relics cous tbh everyone knows there is reset inc anyway

and for the keeproleplayers well you can have it all tbh

i played lamorak and simply got one word for the island its uberfantastic , its that i miss most atm since i returned recently (prime time is to late over there since its us time blablabla etc)

but like usual bettin my ass those frenchies will prolly cluster tze german und tze french first nothin we can do about it , not to mention the lag etc at times
 

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Meril said:
Did u attack the same keep as gear? .. just wondering ..
No.

I don’t really know what the Hibs were up to, they were all over the map, Renaris, Bold, Beno, even popping over to us in Surs!

Mids first attacked Berk with a view of getting Beno, when we failed at Berk (twice) we attacked Surs and took it and all towers; this was to be a platform to attacking Renaris.

We needed to stall as ML9/10 raid was on and we needed some more peeps.

Just as we got all nice and established the Hibs got wiped at Bold and then gave up, the 120 man Alb Zerg was then free to zerg us as we were preparing to attack Renaris (Ardamel was getting new Rams), we retreated to Surs, but we lost the (claimed) keep in minutes, 120 v 44 you simply cannot complete. Mids understandably gave up in Alb and went Hib, Alb then went on PvE Keep rampage in Mid. Most mids logged.
 

Ffade

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cry's cry's cry's stop it! :twak:
mids you r trying to say: "Mids don't zerg" ??? :eek7:
 

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gravedigger said:
but like usual bettin my ass those frenchies will prolly cluster tze german und tze french first nothin we can do about it , not to mention the lag etc at times
None of the German servers were clustered, AFAIK, but Carnac and Orcanie have already clustered some weeks ago.
 

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im glad Ardamel is back in Mid, hope he can put some more fightingspirit into you guys & girls :)
 

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Well my conclusion on what happened is the following:

1st I advertised cause it's the only way to get people up for it, obviously I was expecting some sort of defence from the alb side.

CF and TD alliances (I know for a fact) were informed about mids departing with warships. I had no idea what they're up to, tried to keep out of their way but obviously there were some clashes with some of my distracting groups.

86 people were in the BG, about 20 of them BBs, an odd 10 or so just people from other zones watching the action while xp-ing, I estimate the ones with me at more or less 50 people.

From those 50 people, I had to take out at least 2 groups to hit other targets to divert and/or cut port.

Now you do the maths :p

It's not sorcs, ticks, wl, or anything like that, it's just numbers.

To the poster that said that particular groups can ealisy kill 2 times their numbers, I do agree, however that's on open field battle, not when you have to ram down a door. In a keep fight even a lvl40 can succesfully interrupt or get his hands to the oil, place guards etc.

The only way to get an keep is to make sure there are no people defending it, that was what I was trying to do, and it failed. Oh well... I'm not blowing my brains tho :p

I don't blame the albs for anything (well I do blame the insomniac twats for reasons mentioned in the past), and we wll get the relics on a primetime raid, however it will just not be advertised :p
 

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eggy said:
Me and Dasbuffbot (clerics) held off the Mid attack at Sursbrooke making around 10k and wiping quite a lot of you with our smit0r and oil powers. You have warlocks. That’s PBAE with a damage type hardly ever capped. Oh and it’s uninterruptible. Oh and you can insta kill at least 2 rog-suit albs from walls. It’s not hard to hold off attacks with half the numbers, it just takes a bit of thought.
capped resists and you were hitting me for 400-600 dmg..
 

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lol, now thats funny, Hibgard work together for most of the evening both trying to gang up on Albion at different keeps and then accuse US of crossrealming when we bite back?

You deserve everything you got to be honest.
 

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Kagato said:
lol, now thats funny, Hibgard work together for most of the evening both trying to gang up on Albion at different keeps and then accuse US of crossrealming when we bite back?

You deserve everything you got to be honest.
get a clue, mid and hib were fighting among themselves just as much
albs have all the relics, what are they gona do go raid hib/mid for a empty relic keep?
 

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Kagato said:
lol, now thats funny, Hibgard work together for most of the evening both trying to gang up on Albion at different keeps and then accuse US of crossrealming when we bite back?

You deserve everything you got to be honest.

I wasn't expecting such a stupid comment out of you really. Try to think again, and maybe rephrase it.
 

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Kagato said:
lol, now thats funny, Hibgard work together for most of the evening both trying to gang up on Albion at different keeps and then accuse US of crossrealming when we bite back?

You deserve everything you got to be honest.

Roleplaying a retard today?
 

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Gear said:
The only way to get an keep is to make sure there are no people defending it, that was what I was trying to do, and it failed. Oh well... I'm not blowing my brains tho :p

not the only way ;) but if it's defended by more people then it's gonna be tricky.

Hibs have a lot of tools for taking keeps (shrooms are just evil if there's not many wizards around to aoe them, bainshees are superb for clearing courtyards and the like) even when they're defended :)
 

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Belomar said:
I'm sorry, I just can't help being amused when people talk about Albion as "easy mode" and name "OP sorcs" as one of the main factors of Albion doing well on Excalibur. It's more a case of realm spirit, although I do agree that having an opposing realm perform one alarmclock/redbull relic raid after another is dispiriting; in no way do I personally support such raids.

Anyway, I do believe that clustering will help; Albion on Prydwen is most definitely the underdog despite having the highest population, and this is due to a serious case of low motivation in the realm as a whole. In contrast, Hib/Prydwen has shown unerringly high motivation ever since NF was introduced, and rarely are Hib keeps and towers anything else than green. Midgard on Prydwen is in the middle of the foodchain, with occasionally high drive for realm defense, and occasional tendencies for zerging. In that regard, the marriage of Excalibur and Prydwen should be a happy one.

Albion doing well on Excalibur.....

lol

look thats what i think about Albion:

It's more a case of 5am spirit


Would be really more fun if the Relic Raids from Albs would be more in Primetime. I know Albs can do that. They have the Numbers and even most of their Classes are good now. But nooooooooooo, you have to come at times where only so few people play. :E

Boring!
 

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Gear said:
I don't blame the albs for anything (well I do blame the insomniac twats for reasons mentioned in the past), and we wll get the relics on a primetime raid, however it will just not be advertised :p

I Agree this is one of the reasons that numbers for Relic Raids are down in Hib and Mid tbh.Why go through all hard work getting a Relic raid together when these certain people then Redbull/Alarm clock or whatever you want to call it take the Relic away.

Feelings are low on Both Mid/Hib when this certain guild do this and from what I was being flamed at in another post they can only play between 00:00cet - 06:00cet so what reason we got to moan that they want to do these Relic Raids.(Move to U.S if they want to play against people instead of Pve'ing guards.)

I know after the succesful raid Gear pulled off in Alb last week was a Big High for the Hibs only for it to be Deflated by the redbull raid pulled off by that guild.I understand Albs are not happy with how Relics are being taken by this guild and with the amount of Flames being pointed at this Guild why can't they see sense that they actions are not only spoiling enjoyment for Hibs/Mids but also for they own realm as well?????

Big Gratz to Gear again for trying to install some life in what seems a depleting RvR scene for people.

Soulja
 

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Kagato said:
lol, now thats funny, Hibgard work together for most of the evening both trying to gang up on Albion at different keeps and then accuse US of crossrealming when we bite back?

You deserve everything you got to be honest.

How long do you play this Game now? Let me explain it to you:

We have 3 Realms. NOT 2 Realms. Do you really think one Realm stays back and plays Backgammon while the other two have some funky Battles?
 

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Icebreaker said:
Would be really more fun if the Relic Raids from Albs would be more in Primetime. I know Albs can do that. They have the Numbers and even most of their Classes are good now. But nooooooooooo, you have to come at times where only so few people play. :E

Boring!

Was hoping to raid Ailinne at prime time on Friday night, but someone beat me to it in the early hours of the morning. We can only do prime time relic raids when the relics are not in our keeps at prime time.
 

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Javai said:
Was hoping to raid Ailinne at prime time on Friday night, but someone beat me to it in the early hours of the morning. We can only do prime time relic raids when the relics are not in our keeps at prime time.

Yea Right we believe you NOT lol what a bullshit statement we were going to raid Friday lol well obviously communication not good in you realm as the REDBULL Guild didn't know about it OR Probably thought you were not worthy to do a Relic Raid.

Unless you play between 00:00 cet-06:00cet Relic soldier title you will never get hee hee.

Soulja
 

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Let me say again that it is completely unreasonable to blame all albs because around 15 of them are being completely twats.
 

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Basically albs put up an excellent defence, we out skilled 2 realms that were both in our realm.

We had a great leader who put the alb forces int he right place at the right time. in midgard there was sod all defence at hild, maybe one person turned up when we were on inner. Just because 1 realm beat off mids and hibs doesnt mean we are stupidly OP just we did it right and rox'ed you;P

Note to mids, come back in our frontier again and feel our wrath :) :clap:

p.s. if you do try it again try bring more people, our zerg is hungry:)
 

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Soulja_IA_ said:
Yea Right we believe you NOT lol what a bullshit statement we were going to raid Friday lol well obviously communication not good in you realm as the REDBULL Guild didn't know about it OR Probably thought you were not worthy to do a Relic Raid.

Unless you play between 00:00 cet-06:00cet Relic soldier title you will never get hee hee.

Soulja

because as we all know the whole of albion is run by one person... :rolleyes: and we have a committee on relic raids that decides when and how everyone spends their time.

Nothing to do with 2fg of people that decide they want a relic one night.
 

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Soulja_IA_ said:
Yea Right we believe you NOT lol what a bullshit statement we were going to raid Friday lol well obviously communication not good in you realm as the REDBULL Guild didn't know about it OR Probably thought you were not worthy to do a Relic Raid.

Unless you play between 00:00 cet-06:00cet Relic soldier title you will never get hee hee.

Soulja

We'd hit towers at Ailinne every night this week to test out the response. It was very slow on most occasions.

But to be honest after that kind of response to a genuine post no wonder people come and take your relics at 5am, maybe I'll get myself some redbull and join em the next time.
 

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