Last sunday rvr

[Borgio Finstermoor]

He's not only a "legendary zerg leader", he's also a self-proclaimed B52 bomber:Yes, indeed:

Muy I demand as a Merry Man that you use that picture as your sig (obviously shrink it a bit!!!)

 

[Malcolm]

Unless I misunderstand you - this is exactly the rationale that started our bg. Our random groups (random in compostion of classes that is) can't compete against 'proper' rvr group so we run about in 2 or 3 fgs and then get flamed for it.

On the other point - the bg might not attract 60 people but I can be sure it'd still attract 30 or so as these are our core from the alliance/TMM/a few other regulars. And the reason we 'care' about Berks 2 being under attack is because most of us enjoy siege fights not because of relics. If you took all the relics out of the game I'd still run to defend our keep and towers or to take enemy ones because it's a part of the game I enjoy.

Indeed. I've started RvRing more, has absolutely nothing to do with the relic situation but more to do with the previously mentioned alliance change and not having to find a group that'll invite you only if you fit their specific needs.

Besides there's also possession of DF to take into account.

 

[Kanim]

He's not only a "legendary zerg leader", he's also a self-proclaimed B52 bomber:Yes, indeed:

B52 bomber doesnt need moc to make dmg:<

 

[Mas]

Legendary Zerg leader Muyl. Gratz to Muyl only a few weeks back in TMM colours and a legend already :worthy: .

Seriously Mas, Muyl is far from a 'Zerg leader'. Despite his high RR and play abilities he welcomes many friends and allies into his groups. They are always pick up and never opted. Christ, he takes gimps like me playing on shite connections. The joke used to be, "this group is gimped, not enough scouts!"

The usual evenings consist of getting grp together checking out and enemy held towers and trying to take em back. We die alot, or maybe that's just when I'm in the group <ponders>, release and come back to try a different way. Later on the BG starts up and a few groups co-op together usually no more than 3-4 and usually for Realm Missions.

Have to say Sunday was an exceptional night. But then only a few days previously there were over 60 hibs on Surs. Rare event indeed and good to see. Mids I'm sure could put out similar numbers if planned and people co-operated.

You have exceptional tools for Keep and tower defence. Take your own WL abilities. Uninterruptable casting and a PBAOE that hurts like hell is very nasty. The ability to insta cast 3 nukes then side step back behind a turret without fear of getting nuked/shot yourself. That's just one mid class.

BTW I have one account with Mids on Pry so have tried chars out there. I actually started out mid over 3 years ago but found the leveling grind difficult as people on mid excal (in my experience) were not that socialble. I rerolled Alb and have loved the game ever since.

I truely hope the clustering sorts out your woes and your realm starts working together more.

I do know Muy quite well, long time ago, (2+ years i think) i played on alb and was in TMM when Muy and Dep and knolan (oh and who was the mincer guy?)was there amonst others, Muy helped me lvl my first daoc char which was the BB he uses now Gradiuus, which i gave him when i left for Mid. Very helpful and generous guy and so was most of tmm even grumpy dep

Not pointing the finger at Muy for the zerg, not pointing it at anyone only arthur, its impossible to have all realms with equal numbers, but there has to be some room for compensation and cheaper trebs isnt it.

 

[Muylaetrix]

>> and knolan

in Gol now

>>(oh and who was the mincer guy?)

primey ?

>the BB he uses now Gradiuus

OMG she`ll kill you for a remark like that She ain`t no frigging buffbot ! lol, half of the time she`s the only thing in the group with more than 7 rejuv fear her 15 smite !!!!

>>grumpy dep

haha, this will be fun. to be continued.

>> its impossible to have all realms with equal numbers, but there has to be some room for compensation and cheaper trebs isnt it.

I tend to agree that the underdog realm bonuses might not be adequate compensation...

Maybe relics are just plain unbalancing...

Maybe we have at the moment a better way to organize large scale rvr in albion than in mid or hib...

With both duskave, daoc-stats, and any other similar page being down, we can`t accurately estimate the number of players online per realm and I tend to think both mids and hibs overexagerate when they say there is no way they can match our numbers... to some degree. I think albion has indeed a lot more players, but also a mugh higher % of casual (cannon fodder for the leet ) players than the 2 other realms...

It seems that where in the past the mid and hib pug could roam reasonably succesfull (unlike alb pug groups), the currentently used large scale battle group used by albion makes that strategy obsolete and very unrewarding.

I have to say on a brighter note that the mid hit and run tactic used this afternoon had us completely confused (and as long as we didn`t have speed, completely unable to catch up with you) :worthy:

 

[Angrist]

>>

I have to say on a brighter note that the mid hit and run tactic used this afternoon had us completely confused (and as long as we didn`t have speed, completely unable to catch up with you) :worthy:

Just had alot of rams we had to use before we could make room for the new rams we had our slaves make for the dark and rather unpleasant TDA vault

"hit & run" nah more like "ram & run" dont think we made more than 10k's but we had fun

 

[Angrist]

Havent bothered to read all posts as i find the whine and mud-throwing rather useless.

I cant say i'm pleased about getting zerged over and over again when the albs get the train running, but i must admire their ability to cooperate and keep the zerg together.

I honestly believe mids are able to put up a fight, but it seems only Ard can gather and lead mids atm, everytime some unfortunate sod tries to pull something off all to few are actually following orders and we keep strugling to get the needed seige weapons at the spot cuz no1 seems to bother getting it. (U'r doing a great job Corleth, i'm not talking about ur events here)

It doesnt get us anyway to scream for "fair play" (???) as Albs will keep zerging as long as they are able and i believe hibs and mids would do the same if they had the numbers, but 1 thing that i really find silly is the way hibs like to add on us everytime we try to steal from the albs, i admit its a part of the game, and dont get me wrong i'm not trying to get u guys to start cross realming or anything, but....
When mids trying to fight great alb numbers at some keep in enemy frontier and hibs start wrecking mid frontier even though we have nothing to steal forcing mids to split zerg and evidently loose the fight against albs it makes me whonder if hibs really care about relics or if they just like to spoil

I dont understand why 1 would not take the chance and hit albs another place where it might hurt forcing them to split instead of ruining it for mids, who knows u might get a relic or u might be able to steal a relic we fought hard to get, but stopping the mids before the fun starts is pointless

Oh well enough rambling, play as u like ( It's ur money, spend the time the way u have most fun) i will continue running head first into the alb zerg untill i curse away meself for spending time in rvr and go lvl an alt only to find it boring and start over

See you all on the battle field.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

It doesnt get us anyway to scream for "fair play" (???) as Albs will keep zerging as long as they are able and i believe hibs and mids would do the same if they had the numbers, but 1 thing that i really find silly is the way hibs like to add on us everytime we try to steal from the albs, i admit its a part of the game, and dont get me wrong i'm not trying to get u guys to start cross realming or anything, but....
When mids trying to fight great alb numbers at some keep in enemy frontier and hibs start wrecking mid frontier even though we have nothing to steal forcing mids to split zerg and evidently loose the fight against albs it makes me whonder if hibs really care about relics or if they just like to spoil

I dont understand why 1 would not take the chance and hit albs another place where it might hurt forcing them to split instead of ruining it for mids, who knows u might get a relic or u might be able to steal a relic we fought hard to get, but stopping the mids before the fun starts is pointless

Oh well enough rambling, play as u like ( It's ur money, spend the time the way u have most fun) i will continue running head first into the alb zerg untill i curse away meself for spending time in rvr and go lvl an alt only to find it boring and start over

See you all on the battle field.

Think you Find that we seem to observe exactly same thing Why is it when Hib go for an Alb twr/keep Mids show up and add on any numbers incoming or go Hib and start laying waste there as they have done ??? think you find you a little misguided All 3 realms do it Hit the other while you defenses are weak.It Sux but it happens.

Soulja

 

[Ogen]

Just bring it all, we got nothing to loose, and we´ll be delighted to farm you again, like we did with the albs at ailinne last night Had a great time watching 30+ clueless gimps running through the hole in the wall where there´d been about 30 dd traps laid down BOOOOM Rest flee in panic and gets taken out by rangers Btw, did they know there was no relic in the keep? ;D

 

[Bracken]

Just bring it all, we got nothing to loose, and we´ll be delighted to farm you again, like we did with the albs at ailinne last night Had a great time watching 30+ clueless gimps running through the hole in the wall where there´d been about 30 dd traps laid down BOOOOM Rest flee in panic and gets taken out by rangers Btw, did they know there was no relic in the keep?

When we win we are zergers ruining the game, when we lose we are clueless gimps. But Ogen has just demonstrated that win or lose, he's always a muppet

Was nice little trap set up by hibs - although the reason we charged was because one of our fine scouts reported only 2fg in there

Incidentally, /who gorge showed only 25 albs, so not sure where you got your numbers from

 

[Flimgoblin]

Angrist - best way to get people following is to start small, take 2-3fg or so of friends/alliance members/guildies and form a bg - keep it private so that you know people are listening.

Take some rams and some trebs and go hit a tower outside a keep (preferably one of the non-porting ones) - if noone responds start taking the walls down, when they respond and zerg you go "bah!" get more rams and try again.

Might be that these tactics did nothing for the albs and it's all down to relics but worth a shot . Back before we started all this if Favail joined a random bg and gave out orders noone would listen either (heck it still happens if the bg is public)

Start with people that'll listen to you now and then work your way up to a realm-crushing zerg that still won't listen but you might be able to nudge in the right direction

 

[Javai]

Just bring it all, we got nothing to loose, and we´ll be delighted to farm you again, like we did with the albs at ailinne last night Had a great time watching 30+ clueless gimps running through the hole in the wall where there´d been about 30 dd traps laid down BOOOOM Rest flee in panic and gets taken out by rangers Btw, did they know there was no relic in the keep?

We were outnumbered and the Albs were getting bored, was charge and try to get in or watch person after person die solo because of chasing Hibs into the forest nearby.

Didn't help that bg reported 2fgs Hibs and no shrooms which when I made it inside was rather not the case

 

[Vodkafairy]

We were outnumbered and the Albs were getting bored, was charge and try to get in or watch person after person die solo because of chasing Hibs into the forest nearby.

haha - me and staj were bored of the standoff so we charged you from the back with our trio, mezzed, warped and kited back like hell think we got 3

including muylaetrix <3

 

[Javai]

haha - me and staj were bored of the standoff so we charged you from the back with our trio, mezzed, warped and kited back like hell think we got 3

including muylaetrix <3

Was screaming in /bg don't chase don't chase but didn't help. Plan nearly worked in that we were trying to draw Hibs to the rubble but Albs wouldn't move far enough back so the Hibs could easily run back to the keep

 

[Sollac]

on subject (kinda)

the reason i see most mids whining is that that albs are taking the GREEN con towers with 100 zillion albs+

Perhaps if your guilds claimed RVR towers and not the ck/towers in molvik and Leirvik, you might not have Green unclaimed keeps.

And ALbs may have a hard time taking ALL OF THEM.

Perhaps Mid/hib should stay in BG's and Let ALBS have all the TOWERS/KEEPS, as I think we could use them for Guild houses, as personal I dont think you guys deserve them, lets hope clustering brings you guys a back bone

Flame away!

ps As for the dying to zerg, i die so much i feel my arc plate is actually my casket.

pps im on rr3 so no uber l33t ra's

ppps only ml8 so cant blame me for using l33t ML abilities

pppps 2 arties (battler and winged helm) so no L33t Artie skills

ppppps I still have fun, and laugh when i die, and cheer when you die.

 

[Libertine]

on subject (kinda)

Perhaps if your guilds claimed RVR towers and not the ck/towers in molvik and Leirvik, you might not have Green unclaimed keeps.

So your spanish hero's can take them at 3am? yeah good logic

 

[Javai]

So your spanish hero's can take them at 3am? yeah good logic

You're being to sound like a Furby that someone taught one sentence to and then left unloved....

 

[Vodkafairy]

Was screaming in /bg don't chase don't chase but didn't help. Plan nearly worked in that we were trying to draw Hibs to the rubble but Albs wouldn't move far enough back so the Hibs could easily run back to the keep

heh, so thats why there was so many behind the tower

we were bored after a few mins so just decided to charge, we died, and on the way back all our traps went off

 

[Javai]

heh, so thats why there was so many behind the tower

we were bored after a few mins so just decided to charge, we died, and on the way back all our traps went off

Also has made me sure to send a pet through hole first next time to trigger all the traps

 

[Vodkafairy]

Also has made me sure to send a pet through hole first next time to trigger all the traps

considering a trap hits for ~350-450 and there were about 20 on the floor, that doesnt help very much

and i got confused - traps went off when you did the second attempt

 

[Javai]

considering a trap hits for ~350-450 and there were about 20 on the floor, that doesnt help very much

and i got confused - traps went off when you did the second attempt

Unfortuantely we didn't have many heretics around (nothing new there) they are also nice for mopping up traps

2nd attempt we just lacked about one more fg of Albs, doors were going down nicely but didn't have enough Albs to cover the entrances and fill the ram

 

[Vodkafairy]

Unfortuantely we didn't have many heretics around (nothing new there) they are also nice for mopping up traps

2nd attempt we just lacked about one more fg of Albs, doors were going down nicely but didn't have enough Albs to cover the entrances and fill the ram

don't think with another fg you would have made it

we were trying to get some kills but we got a handful only, was loads and loads of hibs there

 

[Bracken]

considering a trap hits for ~350-450 and there were about 20 on the floor, that doesnt help very much

I can vouch for that...think it was me who set most of them off...died quicker than I could say "warlock"

 

[Iboha]

Finaly I get my activation...

i've been reading this wonderful thread, Dieing to say something for nealy 2 days now! I was on the zerg that night, and i'd like to Say it was very well organised by favail, u mids, complain about 100+ zerg, well do u have ne idea how hard that is to get going? u complain about albs been op, with there Sorcs, and heretics and scouts.....ok scouts are op ^^ ...... but really we had 60 ppl at one keep and, as the door goes down, 2 warlocks spam their AoE and all i saw from my tower camping spot was Grey death spam! :eek2:

yes we have Qc AoE mezz, yes we have monster rez ( i feel its overrated ) but we dont have insta aoe/single target Stored death , on the other hand hibs have baseline Stun.... Imo Mid and albs :wub: and let go gets us some hibs.

btw if ravenloc insta kills me again i'm Gonna Cry

 

[Maoni]

Maybe for 1 thing Hibs should not play around being smartasses and announcing raids in advance(real or not real) That could account for a bit more albs around than usual. You cant announce a raid and then cry when ppl go to defend.

The first raid Gear announced on FH (not sure if there been anymore) was succesful, we got a relic and it was primetime + everybody knew this raid was gonna happen...even albs.
What i was hoping for was that albs got abit of a lesson here....if hibs can pull something like this off...maybe just maybe albs could atleast try a primetime raid...Albs has more people, more relics but yet its the realm with largest eager to get relic soldier title so they try to "earn" it the cheapest way.
I would be ashamed if i was doing an AC just after hibs did their raid, but hey atleast many get their "well deserved" relic title....YAY YOU GUYS!!! WAY TO GO!
(and yes all realms have done AC raids in the past)

 

[Baldrian]

The first raid Gear announced on FH (not sure if there been anymore) was succesful, we got a relic and it was primetime + everybody knew this raid was gonna happen...even albs.
What i was hoping for was that albs got abit of a lesson here....if hibs can pull something like this off...maybe just maybe albs could atleast try a primetime raid...Albs has more people, more relics but yet its the realm with largest eager to get relic soldier title so they try to "earn" it the cheapest way.
I would be ashamed if i was doing an AC just after hibs did their raid, but hey atleast many get their "well deserved" relic title....YAY YOU GUYS!!! WAY TO GO!
(and yes all realms have done AC raids in the past)

Yes after the first raid albs got a lesson, so next raid they turned up and beat you. I was explaining that there is no reason to whine over that. If we dont come you whine, if we do come you still whine. and no MANY do not get RELIC TITLE, sounds like you still havent gotten a clue about anything. We are here talking about what? 2fg albs max? Still you insist on making it sound like all albs have relictitles and all albs do relic raids all night long. What you dont get it we(95%) albs hate theese nightraids just as much as you do, but still you insist on bashing us here for it. Ending in we get tired of that and start defending it even if we dont really condone it.

 

[Sollac]

Yes after the first raid albs got a lesson, so next raid they turned up and beat you. I was explaining that there is no reason to whine over that. If we dont come you whine, if we do come you still whine. and no MANY do not get RELIC TITLE, sounds like you still havent gotten a clue about anything. We are here talking about what? 2fg albs max? Still you insist on making it sound like all albs have relictitles and all albs do relic raids all night long. What you dont get it we(95%) albs hate theese nightraids just as much as you do, but still you insist on bashing us here for it. Ending in we get tired of that and start defending it even if we dont really condone it.

If all albs have RELIC SOLDIER, WTF is mine......

MIDS WE ARE NOT ALL AC RELIC RAIDERS. I like prime time raids, much more carnage and its RVR rather than PVE.

Baldrian is right, so at the time the select few tossers that are AC raiding, Im ASLEEP next to a Woman... and to be honest you mids bitch more than she does... and that is saying summat.

AC raids suck, accept that most albs dont want them, or grow tits and a Cu#t rather than being one, as im sure you'll be more useful.

 

[Ging]

^^ lololol

 

[Vodkafairy]

I can vouch for that...think it was me who set most of them off...died quicker than I could say "warlock"

haha yes, i was insanely tired lastnight so i don't really remember in which sequence what happened tho

at some point staj burst out laughing and me and eleas suddenly got rps for some reason (walking to ailinne), his traps were at the front just as i was wondering what happened mine hit something aswell, its really hillarious

 

[Muylaetrix]

Hehe, i was wondering what killed killed the first wave who rushed in.

Nicely done.