Kiting assassins...

[Falcon]

What's with this? Every assassin and his dog is doing it all of a sudden. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not calling it lame or anything I think it's a perfectly valid tactic, it's just some of them are a bit, er... inexperienced at it. So after the last couple of days, allow me to point out some places where you're going wrong. The amusement value is too much, I'll get a heart attack if it's kept up, still here are some of the amusing happenings from assassins who haven't quite perfected kiting yet

1) You cannot kite an archer, he WILL shoot you in the back.

2) There is no need to kite a naked suiciding, sat down Elf, you can kill him in 1, maybe 2 hits (PA and CD)

3) You can't kite if you didn't bother to snare them, they WILL follow and KILL you.

4) Purge is your enemy, if they use this you can no longer kite

5) If you pull off CD, why the hell are you kiting? You have successfully just wasted a 6sec stun and made them immune to DragonFang/Whatever

6) FA2 > Kiting

 

[swords]

Explain what Kiting is...it's one of those things i personally havent come across...

*puts on NooB flame retardant armour ;p*

 

[Wibbler2]

It's where you stun/mezz/root someone and then run a short distance away in order to DD/ReStealth/Laugh again...

 

[Goryk]

Perf an enemy with snare on. Run off stealth, perf 'em again etc etc... I wouldn't have thought it would have been that useful tbh, but after seeing some tanks let themeselves get perfed three times in a row by a kiting sb nothing surprises me anymore. If you know someone is trying to perf you, at least make it hard for them to land anything damaging on you...

Had a pally try to rez me once, and he was perfed by an sb. He gives chase and the sb stealths so he stands there. Gets perfed again and the sb runs off restealths. Obviously content with the fact the sb was long gone he sits down almost immediately to regen power. And gets perfed for a third time...

 

[swords]

must be the metal in the helmet messing with their brains....

aah i know of the technique just didnt know it was called Kiting

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by Falcon

3) You can't kite if you didn't bother to snare them, they WILL follow and KILL you.

4) Purge is your enemy, if they use this you can no longer kite

5) If you pull off CD, why the hell are you kiting? You have successfully just wasted a 6sec stun and made them immune to DragonFang/Whatever

6) FA2 > Kiting

WRONG

3. snare is not neccesary, sprint is your friend....actually if they DO follow= Great! - then u got the target where u want him(just behind u, u got 2sec too stealth and PA again) , sooo, stealth, /stick, PA, run thru the gimp tank, and sprint. REPEAT. now the fun part comes, unexperienced tanks will sit down and rest......

4. purge is your enemy with Dragonfang, kiting is all about applying more dots /PA's vs target


5. have too agree, dont kite with CD. its stupid ;>


6. kiting >>>>> IP/FA2, All tank classes in the game.

 

[Artemls]

Kiting is for cowards period!

 

[Farnis]

Originally posted by Artemls
Kiting is for cowards period!

Ewww. Never seen that done before.

 

[succi]

Only reason ill be kitting is to draw tanks off apk road , where your going to be ganked if you get drawn into a long fight there, and no dont use snare ; you want them to follow you 5 or so metres behind.

 

[old.Elrond]

It actually sounds like a very good tactic, I've never bothered myself due to poisons not saving on weapons when you zone and such so it's just hassle but I can see it working well. I mean, snare poison has to be there for a reason?

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Falcon
1) You cannot kite an archer, he WILL shoot you in the back.

Also on that line, you can't kite a minstrel he will just mez you as you run off.
(And then run off like a little girl, but let's not mention that )

 

[zapzap]

Use snare on my axes when I PA CD never

If pa cd is purged then u cant swap axe with snare on and the run and restealth, purge would also remove the snare effect, so snare is on my my swap axes which i will take out same time as my end debuff axe, sence u probelly used more end u need target to loose some end fast.
Well I only kitten if PA CD is purged anyways and got my secondwind to back me up so it comes down to target using purge ip and me secondwind both havning full HP and end bar.

careless
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Zapsi

 

[Falcon]

Froler, I'm talking mainly from my own experience, if an assassin tries to kite using sprint, it's all the more better for me, means I can use my speed shout and have myself an OOE assassin for breakfast. A lot of tanks, in Hib at least have prevent flight also, which even more lessens the chance of just sprinting away working too well, in fact kiting in general. Remember also that Purge stops more than just DF, it screws up snares, debuff poisons, DoT poisons.

Kiting used to work efficiently when you could snare a tank to totally disable him, leaving him no way to move, if you don't snare they can safely run/walk away. It requires a really, really dumb tank to kite without snaring.

 

[tildson]

So, you mean this is new for assassins on Prydwen? Abit late imho

 

[mirieth]

Kiting sucks. Only one or two SBs have got me with this tactic, the others all got owned the second time they tried to PA

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by Falcon

Kiting used to work efficiently when you could snare a tank to totally disable him, leaving him no way to move, if you don't snare they can safely run/walk away. It requires a really, really dumb tank to kite without snaring.

as for kiting a ranger(?) - no comments..........



you should see the number of mid tanks running after u when u have PA:d em.....(with our without snare)

like someone else said, its great too 'pull' out the mid tank from the mpk-road..
'Im a mighty zerker, i can kill infils in 2 hits....must ..hunt..them..down'


as for the snare proc RA tanks got, its uber, but with PA- run thru, sprint, most(or everyone) dont have a chance too react.

 

[Sigurd]

Assassins shouldn't be able to kill tanks anyway

 

[mid_Efour]

it just gos to make up yet more bullshit for assasin classes.
"we are uber"

its making me sick why bother playing any class but a sb/inf/ns?

they can kill absolutley anything in the game alone at any time.
people seem to think "skill" is pressing a few numbers at 1.5second intervals, can only come from stealther classes.
50% of all BW is devoted to X inf is more buffed than X SB or visa-versa.

If i was a new player reading these forums all the wanna do is roll a assasin.

ok flame away ive said all i can at 1.30am too tired
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Then Rambo better start off at apk and you at amg, stealthed of course. Else i see no skill involved if you start unstealthed

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Im sorry but ive played lvl 50s and shitty bg assasins and where is the skill? if 2 stealthers bump into each other stealthed all u have to do is choose a posistional critical strike accordingly and hope that server lag registers it at the right place. i suppose its what u define as skill? id say reactions and alertness>skill

 

[zapzap]

Originally posted by the_chimera
Assassins shouldn't be able to kill tanks anyway
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Assassins should be able to kill any class 1v1 played well.
Probelly only full pac healer that cant kill anything and still they do it 1v1 they just need 20Min.

careless
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Zapsi

 

[SilverHood]

you cant kite a thane either

he will blast you to bits

/em waves to Uma

 

[Meatballs]

Originally posted by Falcon

1) You cannot kite an archer, he WILL shoot you in the back.

You leg it when you his big macho stealther pals 3 steps away after the pa.

 

[Glacier]

i like kiters tbh...

1: They wont do CD on you.
2: If they do CD they dont kite so screw that .
3: when ur PA'd and they run away they giving u a free chanse to stun em for 9 secs (LW: cause he runs with his back turned against u..Annihalate.. boom../ Shield.. well... boom) if ur fast enough...


Ive even seen asassains stupid enough to PA a chanters/cabbies/sm'm ect and run away! if the chanter dont die of the pa (wich he most of the time wont do now with SC here) the pet WILL folow u unless hes a retard and has it set on passive... and you stealthers trying to run away from chanter pets.. YOU CANT HIDE!!