Just a quick response to the hibs retaking their keeps at 6am.

[sneakies]

that your not the ones getting constantly attacked and defending gettign free rp's ?

And scarily i agree with the albs... mids could put together a decent grp... but itd take some time

 

[Azathrim]

Can you make sense sneakies?

I think what mids wants is to have the same bonuses Hibs have. Not to remove the bonuses from Hibs. Remember, nothing prevents GoA from giving that bonus to more than one realm. Furthermore, they really should drop the camp bonus to 0% for albs.

 

[sneakies]

sense of that = hibs spend day after day defending towers / keeps. Mids spend day after day camping a bridge.... keeps/towers are the new milegates people

 

[Awarkle]

well the reason we get the underdog bonus is because i for one would like to actually go on the offensive. and at the moment we cant go on the offensive when our towers and keeps are under attack. we had to cancle raids yesterday beceause we were defending nonstop.

Well done to the albs at behn was around 44 when you took it from my BG was nothing i could really do to stop you i think your realm ranks beat us in the end . Pitty about the certain high realm ranked players who felt the need to continually lag cast anywho.

Mids warning hibs prefer to kill you than albs because your not full of scouts and sorcs. The chances are hibs will happily come and slaughter you and ignore the albs. Just some friendly advice

 

[Nausilus^^]

if mids would stop that 2 fg stealth zerg on alb bridges and roll a normal, group friendly character they might get some relics and wouldn't act like real retarded n00bs.

If albs were all ass they would be full of crap like you. Don't generalize like that.. albs have stealthzergs too, and same with hibs. But it doesn't mean that none of the 3 realms have groupfriendly chars.

 

[Ischtap]

How about that look at things: Mids do not fight in RvR, so why would they need an RvR bonus? And if they were actually doing RvR, they would have a population advantage and thus not deserve that bonus.

 

[Tuorin]

Mids dont need underpop bonus, they want cba bonus.

That being said if you really want to take relics go take it to Albs and I'm sure Hibs will go add, the volume of albs all freakin day is insane and extremly boring.

 

[Sparrow]

What I don't get is, why attack Crim? What purpose does that serve?

 

[mudguts]

i dont think the origional post is retarded as some people have said, just misdirected anger and frustration. at the last keep re-take (at around 6am) the mid defenders were ... Trollum, Trollum, Trollum, Mirphantom (doesnt really count tbh), some blue con hunter and Trollum. 3 mids .... i doubt there was 3 mids online total. 51 hibs online 36 in emain ... take into account the bots at ligen and thats a very high percentage of the hib population. if the same population percentage would of turned out from mid ... this post would of never been made .... prolly.

 

[Nausilus^^]

What I don't get is, why attack Crim? What purpose does that serve?

Atleast someone got the point...

 

[willowywicca]

What I don't get is, why attack Crim? What purpose does that serve?

Well, hibs would defend it less fervently than an attack on say scathaig, so it's more likely to succeed, and given current rvr situation, any successful keep take serves to improve mid morale..

 

[Ovi1]

Well, hibs would defend it less fervently than an attack on say scathaig, so it's more likely to succeed, and given current rvr situation, any successful keep take serves to improve mid morale..

True, but for better 3 way balance they should really take Alb keeps, Eras or Blend come to mind. At least it would hopefully reduce the numebr of Albs hib faces to a reasonable level.

I am sure Mids think it would be better if Alb had all 6 relics.

As to the original point, nice to see Alb QQ about Hibs Bonus due to us taking keeps back at silly times of the morning. IF we didn't need the bonuses then we would stand a reasonable chance any other time of day, but as has been proved we simply haven't got the numbers for prime time keep takes.

Sounds to me like Albs just annoyed that we have done enough to frustrate their 6 relic plans

I think if Albs ever do get 6 relics it will kill RvR on the server, it's hard enough facing the silly 20% power Bonus, give their Scouts the 20% Str bonus too, and no one will be out to face them

 

[Ovi1]

I should note that I am not against Mids getting a bonus, the game is most fun when there are 3 even realms. I do find it laughable when Albs complain about our bonus though

 

[xxManiacxx]

Well, hibs would defend it less fervently than an attack on say scathaig, so it's more likely to succeed, and given current rvr situation, any successful keep take serves to improve mid morale..

Bingo!

 

[atos]

mids should do the same to defend their keeps instead of whining

That was was not a whine.

 

[Naffets]

Pitty about the certain high realm ranked players who felt the need to continually lag cast anywho.

*Cough* Ghost *cough*

Well he was tonight that is.

Nice to see albs and mids blatently obviously double team us. At the moment we have 50 members in defense bg and albs/mids total up to 120 ish

So basically we will loose the relics tonight due to a pure lack of numbers. Nice to know

 

[Tjodolv^^]

What I don't understand is why hibs complain about mids attacking hib at the same time as albs, when they did the same to us many times earlier in NF.

 

[Naffets]

What I don't understand is why hibs complain about mids attacking hib at the same time as albs, when they did the same to us many times earlier in NF.

From what i remember, that would be albs and hibs doubleteaming you, correct?

What i wanna know is, when is it time for the albs to be double teamed?

Edit: You're going to let the albs get yet another relic just out of spite? Does the hunger for revenge really need satisfying so much that you will let the albs get even more power? (although technically speaking they gain no bonus through having their str relic back)

 

[Anarch]

From what i remember, that would be albs and hibs doubleteaming you, correct?

What i wanna know is, when is it time for the albs to be double teamed?

in time m8r when mids are overpowerd agai and all fotm hoppers moves back :touch:

 

[Lcea]

What i wanna know is, when is it time for the albs to be double teamed?

We got doubled teamed last week or somthing, the day we tested the reaver bomb group.

That was a fun night.

 

[willowywicca]

We got doubled teamed last week or somthing, the day we tested the reaver bomb group.

That was a fun night.

Also the time hibs took str relic, mids helped by taking berks..

 

[Ticking]

Oh noes?!

 

[Daedalus]

You know.. "double teaming".. it sucks.. it's highly inconvenient, but it tends to happen.

For example.. We were happily relic raiding since 15:00 GMT+1 (or so) today.. Tried numereous times but each time we were driven back.. It's not like we'd say; "Hey guys, the mids have decided to try to grab their relic too! Let's leave!". We're all three enemies of eachother.. In-game, we all hate eachother's guts. With a 3-way-realm system, things like this are simply bound to happen. So, sure, whine about it, that's okay, but don't take it seriously ok? Next time the hibs & the mids happen to gank Albland at the same time, there'll be whines but don't take it seriously.

 

[Gazon]

I must say, during the many re-tries some sportsmanlike/smart/dumb/evil Mid group took DDB4 so we couldn't port to Hib after yet another failure at Dun Ailinne. I don't know why they did but it screwed the double-teaming for a while.

 

[Luinmir]

Bah ... Why we seems looks many is one thing, you attack keeps very near our PKs!!! We can release fast and attack almost instant again.

I salute Hibs !! Damn we did very good when having 2 Enemys realms on our relic keeps/towers and we didnt give up!

Mids cant gather up you realmmates to RvR or defend, so you whine to get bonus ...

Hibs are a Proud ppl, we dont give up to easy.

 

[Tjodolv^^]

From what i remember, that would be albs and hibs doubleteaming you, correct?

What i wanna know is, when is it time for the albs to be double teamed?

Edit: You're going to let the albs get yet another relic just out of spite? Does the hunger for revenge really need satisfying so much that you will let the albs get even more power? (although technically speaking they gain no bonus through having their str relic back)

There are 3 realms, and one war.

 

[Awarkle]

whens this killing and madness going to end , i say we call a truce murder our leaders and live in harmony

lets face it the leaders are the one that are forcing us to fight in their petty little games.

And hasnt camelots leaders started throwing old people into the street and giving their gear away to anyone who just so happens to be level 20

Frankly thats got issues there..

BTW why are we fighting again its probbly midgards fault it always is

 

[Maleg]

mids had maybe 200 online total when you had 300 in fronteir alone...

and yes it is true that hibs can get a higher % of population out into rvr

but shouldn't rvr bonuses be based on getting everyone out into rvr?

Thats the mistake you are making. The underdog bonus isn't deemed a RvR bonus but a population bonus. As far as I know the major contributing factor is Realm population (although in the US server population also appears to be taken into account).

It's Mythics method of balancing server population between Realms, you can't try and balance realms if populations are skew. Also the arguement about RvR population is not a good one, as the counter argument is well you have the potential to get more people into RvR, if you don't that's a Realm organisation issue, not an overall population issue.

PS. I say this with the current system working against me. I play Alb / Merlin, Hibs and Mids have the bonus, Hibs have been fairly dominant there and appear to have a highest RvR population also, that doesn't change the fact that if most Albs went RvR on the server it would be like the first few weeks of NF where Albs ruled the roost.

 

[atos]

Also the time hibs took str relic, mids helped by taking berks..

Just fyi.. that was like 6 mids trebbing the keep for 4-5 hours aprox.

Half a GG could have killed us. ^^

 

[Ilum]

What i wanna know is, when is it time for the albs to be double teamed?

Every soloer that meets u in RvR gets double teamed imo ~~