Just a quick response to the hibs retaking their keeps at 6am.

[atos]

How can Goa comment of you being underpopulated? I mean its not like you are underpopulated in RvR and thats the thing that counts the most. Not PvE, RvR.

Anyways got fed up with defending when attackers still have an easier time targeting defenders and killing them and not the oposite. I might add its not getting any better with catacombs as I play on US.

Thats all by all means take our keeps while you are at it. =)





PS LoS still sucks as stated above. :kissit:

 

[mudguts]

at arouns that time was 51 hibs online 36 in emain, and i know at least 1 of them not in emain was my bot. Guess hibs wanted their keeps back <shrug>.

 

[Araudry]

their system to check how are servers populated isnt working look at excal they did wrong and changed after 3000 whine on forums ^^

 

[Brend]

so because is more hibs online at 6am taking keeps back means hib isnt the underpopulated realm?.
Look at pop figures at ...say.....8pm ...more albs/mids than hibs i would say.

Maybe the same number of hibs rvring as albs/mids but thats because if we dont have 90%(guess) turn out we lose keeps/relics and everything .

 

[Roadie]

from what ive seen of rvr over the last week or two id say that mids need population bonuses :<

either that or they need some relics.....badly

 

[Tirfo]

It may seem to you and everyone else that mid is underpopulated but GOA know the truth by counting the number of mids on bled bridge with their spycam, knock these out and you may get a underpopulated realm bonus

Anyhow, good to see after only a few weeks of NF you still Q to the Q so quickly, think about hibs in OF when there was no incentive to come out and rvr with 2 highly populated realms ready to hack you down with zergs at every corner.

 

[Gahn]

oO

Any more useless posts?

 

[koxi]

I don't blame Hibs taking their keeps back in the middle of the night.. Alb's and Mid's had Hib's under pressure all night, and all realms would have continued trying to get their keeps back if they had relics to defend, even at 6 am.. instead of waking up to a 100 enemies in their frontier..

But must admit i get a little pissed having to read that Hibernia is currently benefiting from the help accorded to under populated realms, everytime i log on.. How often do they make theese poll's ?? once every year or something ?!

I think theese bonuses should be ajusted "on the fly".. by automatically counting number of online ppl's from each realm currently in frontiers and set bonuses from current numbers online.. how hard can it be to make the software work this out.. =)

 

[Maddude]

I don't blame Hibs taking their keeps back in the middle of the night.. Alb's and Mid's had Hib's under pressure all night, and all realms would have continued trying to get their keeps back if they had relics to defend, even at 6 am.. instead of waking up to a 100 enemies in their frontier..

But must admit i get a little pissed having to read that Hibernia is currently benefiting from the help accorded to under populated realms, everytime i log on.. How often do they make theese poll's ?? once every year or something ?!

I think theese bonuses should be ajusted "on the fly".. by automatically counting number of online ppl's from each realm currently in frontiers and set bonuses from current numbers online.. how hard can it be to make the software work this out.. =)

Must say that this was a good idea

 

[Xxcalibur]

How can Goa comment of you being underpopulated? I mean its not like you are underpopulated in RvR and thats the thing that counts the most. Not PvE, RvR.

Anyways got fed up with defending when attackers still have an easier time targeting defenders and killing them and not the oposite. I might add its not getting any better with catacombs as I play on US.

Thats all by all means take our keeps while you are at it. =)





PS LoS still sucks as stated above. :kissit:

mids should do the same to defend their keeps instead of whining

 

[Xxcalibur]

I don't blame Hibs taking their keeps back in the middle of the night..

I think theese bonuses should be ajusted "on the fly".. by automatically counting number of online ppl's from each realm currently in frontiers and set bonuses from current numbers online.. how hard can it be to make the software work this out.. =)

Hibs are underpopulated.

hibs send 80,75 % population when is needed
MIds camp bled bridge

 

[Tuorin]

We had yesterday over 300 combined enemies in our frontier during the night. Albs took Behnn in the morning had 2.5 times our numbers and in the evening, small hours we had 3 opposing forces in different spots greater than our one BG. It really was utter bullcrap seeing so many albs, all day, amazed people logged in.

Salute to those Hibs that stayed up defending til those hours, as for Mids go take Alb keeps and maybe you will get a relic. Think they were all in our frontier. Max in our BG was 69 iirc. We also had a bg on listen and the leader log. I logged at 1am was stupid the amount of enemies, realmsalute the Hibs who preserved the candy.

Problem with mids, they only know how to camp and two relic raids at 2am on successive nights is a bad idea when we have albs all over our frontier still. Go take alb keeps.

 

[AngeLujo]

anytime i log on to irc, someone does a /who all in mid (usually Mani), then everyone else do it and we always get the least mids online, so it can be seen on online numbers that hibs are no longer the underpopulated realm, neither if u look at the population ingame nor takin a look at the frontiers..

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

As i have said b4 i have done some test last month or so, done a /who in mid then asked a hib to do the same sometimes even a alb.
The thing is mids and hibs are more or less on same numbers one day hib has more one day mid has more and normaly alb is around 100-150 more.
I do know that ppl can be anon etc but they can be in both realm and i dont think that is a big % of the population.
I have aswell talked with goa about this and the answear was.

""Hello,

Thank you for your question. And thank you for sharing your concerns with us.

I'm not familiar with the exact calculations used to determine the underdog realm but I do know it involves more then just people that show online with a /who. Things like realmpoints earned, keeps and towers taken are sure to come into the calculation as well.

Yours sincerely,
---------------------------------------------
European Dark Age of Camelot Community Manager ""

So what they say is that number aint the only prio in this one.
But when did mid's have more rps last week then hibs ? Its about same numbers there aswell. And when did Mid take a keep b4 last night ?

But to be honest i dont think underpop bonus will save mid we need to start to work together.
So if you ask me there is 2 underdog on this server or none as mids and hibs is more or less the same over all.


And b4 ppl come and say you had your fun in Of, well mid was strongest back then duo the fact that we had 3-4 GG's runing around so the "random" could walk around as they knew the GG's was allways there.
Just look what happen when PE went out alb zerg did come out aswell.

For me the underdog thing dont matter much but for the realm i think it will.

 

[AngeLujo]

We had yesterday over 300 combined enemies in our frontier during the night.

alb bg has never gone over 60 ppl in it (that's till 2.30 am CET) and i doubt mids were out with over 200 :touch:

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

In mid's BG it was at most 5x members i think.

 

[Kerig]

We had yesterday over 300 combined enemies in our frontier during the night. Albs took Behnn in the morning had 2.5 times our numbers and in the evening, small hours we had 3 opposing forces in different spots greater than our one BG. It really was utter bullcrap seeing so many albs, all day, amazed people logged in.

Naaa, dont think so. When we took DaBehn alb BG had 36 people, and from my braggartsbow aoe log you had 44 defenders (some of those just bots id guess mind). amazed we took it at all to be honest, go, go Ero and Alar

I think at peak time 8pm we had about 60 max, and not all in the same place, but you weren't exactly short on numbers then either.

 

[Straef]

from what ive seen of rvr over the last week or two id say that mids need population bonuses :<

either that or they need some relics.....badly

They just don't bother coming out without having 3 relics, just a bunch of sad twats, that's all
They wouldn't need bonuses if they'd put in as mutch effort as hibs do.

 

[Ticking]

So taking back our keeps make you claim you need bonuses, excuse me but lol ;(

 

[Elendar]

mids had maybe 200 online total when you had 300 in fronteir alone...

and yes it is true that hibs can get a higher % of population out into rvr

but shouldn't rvr bonuses be based on getting everyone out into rvr?

 

[Andrilyn]

Was fun yesterday with hibs though, had only 26 people defending Ailline keep then guard pop said 79 hibs on ailline.
By the way hibbies don't storm the lord with 2 MoC'ing ice wizs in there
Had lots of fun and made rather nice amount of arpees, seeing that the latenight hib retakes was alot more fun than the rest of the day atleast for me.

 

[Penlid]

mids had maybe 200 online total when you had 300 in fronteir alone...

and yes it is true that hibs can get a higher % of population out into rvr

but shouldn't rvr bonuses be based on getting everyone out into rvr?

So much utter shite, Hibs had about 40-50 (when i joined was 36) in the BG maybe less, albs where 70+ id say and mids where 50+ go figure

 

[xxManiacxx]

Populationwise hib and mid is very equal in numbers atm.


But as GOA said. it´s not only population it is calculated on.

Don´t think underdog realm bonus gonna make much difference anyways.

I have some stuff going on to try and get midgard active again. And so does Gustav and probably more. We will see if it works or not. But it will prob take 1-2 months atleast and then we have midgard Warlock PvE heaven

 

[Rudor Dwarf]

I dont think hib look on it from our side ofc we aint underdog against the hibs and the hibs aint underdog against us either we are on same number when it come to rp's earned and numbers aswell.

But we are underdog against alb as much as hibs are thats the hole point.
I dont say hibs shall lose their underdog status bcoz they do a very good jobb to deffend their realm, with animist or without em.

 

[Elendar]

So much utter shite, Hibs had about 40-50 (when i joined was 36) in the BG maybe less, albs where 70+ id say and mids where 50+ go figure

was using rambles numbers ;x

 

[Nausilus^^]

Some ppl whine more than others, but don't make the mistake of generalizing a whole community (if you could call mid that) from a few ppl's remarks. It was a fun night imo.. was good to see that mids can still be on the offensive side, and that hibs can come defend. That we did it while albs also were attacking hibs was just a little extra spice to the meal.. had a laugh when hibs were on Crim and suddenly albs came from the other side

Anyway, I think the whole underdog bonus thing is a shitload of crap because it's so hard to judge who's the underdog and who isn't. Most ppl will claim that they are because they have a bad day in RvR or something. In reality I think it varies from day to day who's the underdog depending on who's online, who's working, who's sleeping, doing other RL stuff etc. Population never is steady, it goes up and down. It might be hibs today, but tomorrow it very well might also be mids or albs (well, not so often albs I think, they have a pretty strong population as I see it), because the number of people online doesn't equal the number of people capable or interested in doing RvR.

Just my 2 cents.. cba to write more, I'm rvr'ing

 

[Elendar]

was nice to be out with almost full mael grp last night, haven't had as much fun since start of nf, was a lot of hibbles out yesterday, although most of the fights where at keeps so muchos of the guards around
sadly is not something that will be happening often i fear

 

[sneakies]

We are the realm of insomniacs... deal with it.

Most i think we had was about 50 people... and at this time we had _BOTH_ just over 50 mids reported on crim, and 80 albs reported on another tower.

And a post as retarded as this one is to be expected cause our resilience paid off. To those hibs who stayed up taking keeps back at 6am, i salute you. After all, why would we wanna leave our selves 2 keeps down in enemy hands providing them bonuses, and a quick route to our frontiers?

The fact of the matter is, at primetime we are out numbered by albs 2/3 to 1, mids we can be at equal numbers 1 to 1 out numbered 1.5 to 1. Mids proved yesterday you can a mass a force that is equal to slightly larger than ours, but unfortunatly for you we've been defending against zergs since NF and have slightly more experience in dealing with it. Where as you lot have been sat camping bridges in numbers.

Theres no denying hibs did well... and this cant be blamed on RVR bonus, or numbers. After all, how does the RVR bonus help us when we are facing 2x our numbers in a lord room? It doesn't, it just helps us maintain a higher level of keeps to help fend them off for a bit longer.




Now heres a view i dont think anyone has ever actually looked at. Hibs have the RVR bonus, as such we get a few extra RP's of kills and such. So with this still in mind lets take a look at last weeks RP's.

Albion: 18 217 132
Hibernia: 12 063 946
Midgard: 11 020 006

So without the RVR bonus, how much below the albs and mids are we exactly?

If we take the biggest whiners about the RVR Bonus' (hi mids) we would end up being 2 million, 3 million, hell could even be 4 million lower than them. That would be us earning pretty much * 50% * of what the albions do. Yet we still dont deserve it?

Care to justify why mids need to get more rp's and bps please? So that they can pocket a weekly rp of 15 million, and then the roll of honour can look liek this:

Albion: 18 217 132
Hibernia: 9 363 249
Midgard: 14 560 256

Look more appealing to you now? Im sure it does.

 

[Azathrim]

Albion: 18 217 132
Hibernia: 12 063 946
Midgard: 11 020 006

So without the RVR bonus, how much below the albs and mids are we exactly?

Albion: 18 217 132
Hibernia: 10 967 223
Midgard: 11 020 006

That would be a difference of 52.783 RP's if Hibs didn't have it's RvR bonus.
Seems this week Hibs was ahead 1.043.940 RP's over mids solely due to this 10% boost.

What was your point about whining mids again?

 

[Righthandof]

if mids would stop that 2 fg stealth zerg on alb bridges and roll a normal, group friendly character they might get some relics and wouldn't act like real retarded n00bs.