Joining the Red side!!

[MrManic]

Going to be rolling an Alb real soon and just thought what is the best class to start off with.


i will be getting to 50 pretty fast with help and a BB also! so need a toon that can farm cash and drops well!!!

Thx guyz! :england:

 

[uspe]

for fast cash and fast 50 lvl ding. ofc with bb....the chars are 2. serv necro with bb cleric

then if you want a char for rvr then you see which is good which is not.
casters : wiz or sorc.
tank : arms or merc.

 

[uspe]

your druid is quite familiar to me in rvr. i have seen you. dont ask when or where lol bu its familiar

 

[psyco]

your with a bb... so imho get the bb a fop, roll a serv necro, not much you cant kill with those, for leveling spec sight though imo when you get the free respec at 40... respec then

a spec you would be looking at is for sight, 50 sight, nothing else really matters - though 20ish serv could be usefull for the dmg shield, though unless your fighting reds+, the power spend vs. resists, wont be worth it

servant, 47 servant - last dmg shield+pbaoe, 2 painworking - for the insta aoe debuff, good for agro stealing at the begining at the fight, not great for 'endurance', ie high level mobs, killing, but awesome for getting stray agro, in zones like avalon city and poc... then rest sight, you'll rarely use it if your bot has fop, but you might aswell, as theres nothing in painworking atall desirable

there are other options like a sorc or cabby, for if you wanna get strait into the RvR aspect, but for uber pveness, you'll need ml9, witch you cant get till 40+, as for specs for these 2 class's

you'll have a fop so sorc: 39 mind, 37 body - gives you grp yellow power regen, a nice ae mezz, a good charm and a relatively good nuke... though crap class if you plan to level 1-50

for cabba, once again you'll have a fop bot: 50matter till you get your template, then i cant advise you, i have no idea a good spec for cabby
though a quick look would suggest 33matter - debuff for sorc/cabby nuke, 25 matter - a ok neersight, and a semi good focus dmg shield, 34 body - it de-gimps your LT's dont ask me why, i dont get it, but it does

but... there are EVEN more options but this would require you to grind quite slowly though the levels, untill about 45+, then do 'group' activitys to form a template... these would include a pally, ice wizz(respec for rvr, to fire, fucking awesome dmg) or a cleric

though, if you prefer a tank... then reaver, 50 flex - levi yummmm, 42 shield - slam, dur!, 36 soul rendering - mainly coz you have left over points but has a new nice toys
will take a while to get templated, ml10 and stuff... but i get horny every time i see one

thats a basic low down of alb pve

 

[Golena]

If you have a bot then you can level up fairly quickly as a matter cabby.
Maybe not quite as fast as a necro, but not that far off.

Get ML9 and you should have no problems farming cash for a template, then respec for a great rvr toon.

 

[Coriolanus]

Roll a sorc, get ML9, then with one class you have brilliant farmer and brilliant player slayer.

 

[Coriolanus]

Roll a sorc, get ML9, then with one class you have brilliant farmer and brilliant player slayer.

With BB they are fast to level, fully buff a yellow pet and you can chain oranges and reds. At 43 charm scorcher pet to take down multiple mobs at once. In atlantis and catacombs charm anything that has a spec attack to chain reds. At 40 try and get ML9 for level 41, takes effort, but if you pull it off levelling the other 10 levels will seem like a joke.

 

[Javai]

If you have a bot then you can level up fairly quickly as a matter cabby.
Maybe not quite as fast as a necro, but not that far off.

Get ML9 and you should have no problems farming cash for a template, then respec for a great rvr toon.

Was gonna say the same thing. Matter cabby can do most of the important artifacts etc and you just respec once you're done and rvr is sorted whereas while a necro is a little bit faster at farming it'll be slower overall cos you then have to level something else to rvr with and ofc you can't use the necro to get credit for the 2nd char on artis without help from someone else whereas the Cabby + bb will do it all themselves.

 

[Kinetix]

a spec you would be looking at is for sight, 50 sight, nothing else really matters - though 20ish serv could be usefull for the dmg shield, though unless your fighting reds+, the power spend vs. resists, wont be worth it

Not 50 sight its 48! 50 only gets you single AF debuff not worth it

servant, 47 servant - last dmg shield+pbaoe, 2 painworking - for the insta aoe debuff, good for agro stealing at the begining at the fight, not great for 'endurance', ie high level mobs, killing, but awesome for getting stray agro, in zones like avalon city and poc... then rest sight, you'll rarely use it if your bot has fop, but you might aswell, as theres nothing in painworking atall desirable

Its 45 servant last dam shield! 47 isnt worth for last pbaoe since you can only use it like 2 (maybe3 times) every 15 secs with FP

though a quick look would suggest 33matter - debuff for sorc/cabby nuke, 25 matter - a ok neersight, and a semi good focus dmg shield, 34 body - it de-gimps your LT's dont ask me why, i dont get it, but it does

47 spirit for last debuff rest matter for NS

 

[MrManic]

Thx guyz. helps alot!!!

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Sorc with ML10 is nice to farm stuff in PvE and RvR.

Sorc is easy to level, especially when you can buff the pet and heal it in the down time. Like some said, Scorcher pet from 4x is a good way to exp.

If you want also to power level other chars though or do some tricky encounters, you are prolly better off with a Death Servant Necro and a Bot + leech at low RR.

 

[Kinetix]

Sorc with ML10 is nice to farm stuff in PvE and RvR.

Sorc is easy to level, especially when you can buff the pet and heal it in the down time. Like some said, Scorcher pet from 4x is a good way to exp.

If you want also to power level other chars though or do some tricky encounters, you are prolly better off with a Death Servant Necro and a Bot + leech at low RR.

Still think cabby is best. I used to pull all of taskers with ml9 pet when i was matter

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Yeah, Cabby is very nice. But it truely owns when his pet is Juggernauted or ML9'ed and a ML10 Warlord fired Warguard.

It doesn't need any healing then and can pull complete PoC rooms.

 

[psyco]

Not 50 sight its 48! 50 only gets you single AF debuff not worth it


Its 45 servant last dam shield! 47 isnt worth for last pbaoe since you can only use it like 2 (maybe3 times) every 15 secs with FP



47 spirit for last debuff rest matter for NS

well how can it not be worth it, your iether casting power tap or life tap... theres no time to cast anything else

for resist + agro perpose's it is, i hope you were being sarcastic...

well, i dont claim to be a master cabalist

 

[Bondoila]

Would also think caba is the fastest ,can consume pet for power also.
As for spec, tri spec is nice with body debuff, deacent lt and nearsight(for rvr that is)

 

[Kinetix]

well how can it not be worth it, your iether casting power tap or life tap... theres no time to cast anything else

for resist + agro perpose's it is, i hope you were being sarcastic...

well, i dont claim to be a master cabalist

-Tbh you will be either pulling several mobs or just focusing one large Mofo, in the 1rst case the damage variance from the yeallow pbaoe and red one is crap so i rather have a better ABS buff ( even if Blue one ) wich will lead to less healing or go painworking for better strg con debuff.
-As for the large Mofos theres no point even trying as they will resist it so if they will resist why waste points on that?

As for the 50 sight why they hell would i debuff a target´s AF if im going to life tap it?!

 

[psyco]

-Tbh you will be either pulling several mobs or just focusing one large Mofo, in the 1rst case the damage variance from the yeallow pbaoe and red one is crap so i rather have a better ABS buff ( even if Blue one ) wich will lead to less healing or go painworking for better strg con debuff.
-As for the large Mofos theres no point even trying as they will resist it so if they will resist why waste points on that?

less dmg output = agro on cleric, thus we die... but yeh when on 1 mob 45 is better, but in the event that you need the pbaoe the lvl 47 one is the only one worth having

i know ill spec my ice wizz, 39 ice, 37 earth! wow im a genius

 

[Kinetix]

less dmg output = agro on cleric, thus we die... but yeh when on 1 mob 45 is better, but in the event that you need the pbaoe the lvl 47 one is the only one worth having

i know ill spec my ice wizz, 39 ice, 37 earth! wow im a genius

ok if you want to be sarcastic lets be sarcastic... why do you spec tri spec on cabba? simple best overall results
WoW i can do a stronger pbaoe every 15 secs! do you know why a ml9 matter cabby dosent need pbaoe? well think about it then answer me

 

[Darzil]

As for the 50 sight why they hell would i debuff a target´s AF if im going to life tap it?!

For group working ? A necro debuffing for a tank group makes them gods, and it can greatly speed by BG stuff - theurgs petspam target, makes it hittable by spells, AF debuff, suddenly tanks find their damage greatly increases.

For a solo necro, agreed.

It's why they are given bonuses on the ML10 raids, the AF debuff, it's not for power transfer, as the lower level power transfers are actually more efficent, and most servant necros have that.

Darzil

 

[psyco]

ok if you want to be sarcastic lets be sarcastic... why do you spec tri spec on cabba? simple best overall results
WoW i can do a stronger pbaoe every 15 secs! do you know why a ml9 matter cabby dosent need pbaoe? well think about it then answer me

cause the shield dmg is twise as effective(200dmg), and the ml9 abil aloud you to hit 250ish on purps, along with the extra absorb you get at a ml9 cabba

on a necro its only 100 per hit(shield dam), and this is where the minority of the dmg comes from compare this with the pboae, with FP and 3x Channeling Frenzy(about 1100dmg overall) you can take down about 30yellows's within 30 seconds... it would take far longer with the 2nd from last pbaoe, and dont forget, the resists would occur more often

really you argue with the majority serv necros that play this game

 

[thergador]

With BB they are fast to level, fully buff a yellow pet and you can chain oranges and reds. At 43 charm scorcher pet to take down multiple mobs at once. In atlantis and catacombs charm anything that has a spec attack to chain reds. At 40 try and get ML9 for level 41, takes effort, but if you pull it off levelling the other 10 levels will seem like a joke.

the pet takes xp
and ml cap at 40 is ml5 m8

 

[thergador]

ok if you want to be sarcastic lets be sarcastic... why do you spec tri spec on cabba? simple best overall results
WoW i can do a stronger pbaoe every 15 secs! do you know why a ml9 matter cabby dosent need pbaoe? well think about it then answer me

got both cabby and necro and the big difference is the cabalist can get aggro and di dont work on the cabby pet

so cabby pets in pve are hard but much more risky than a servant necro

examples
2.10 with cabby pet yes its quick but cabalist can get aggro and main boss aggro cleric can get snake aggro for healing the cabalist
2.10 with necro no problems

SoM with cabby cabby need to die (or some one does) to take it out of god mode then its risky but much quicker
SoM with necro no problems

Chan and ml9 bothers with cabby (matter 50) kills in about 5 mins tops,(safe due to chan not being able to move) hard to get there
Chan and ml9 bothers with necro kills in about 12 mins (DS lots lower), lot hard to get there to to passive pulling ect

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

the pet takes xp
and ml cap at 40 is ml5 m8

Afair only for the BGs.

 

[pinkey]

For farming with a bb i use servant necro, can do most things nps.

 

[Kinetix]

For group working ? A necro debuffing for a tank group makes them gods, and it can greatly speed by BG stuff - theurgs petspam target, makes it hittable by spells, AF debuff, suddenly tanks find their damage greatly increases.

For a solo necro, agreed.

It's why they are given bonuses on the ML10 raids, the AF debuff, it's not for power transfer, as the lower level power transfers are actually more efficent, and most servant necros have that.

Darzil

I believe you didnt read all the posts. Read them then answer mate.
And dunno about you but never seen a necro Debuff AF to any mob tbh.

 

[Kinetix]

cause the shield dmg is twise as effective(200dmg), and the ml9 abil aloud you to hit 250ish on purps, along with the extra absorb you get at a ml9 cabba

necro Pet hits yeallow for 150ish (melee) so no significant difference there.
But yes it has extra absorb and THATs the important part. So ill say it again better ABS>200 Dam from 3 pbaoes

on a necro its only 100 per hit(shield dam), and this is where the minority of the dmg comes from compare this with the pboae, with FP and 3x Channeling Frenzy(about 1100dmg overall) you can take down about 30yellows's within 30 seconds... it would take far longer with the 2nd from last pbaoe, and dont forget, the resists would occur more often

Yeallow Pbaoe will do less 200/300 dam WoW big difference! <sarcastic>
You are talking about killing yeallows? jezz i can aoe nuke with my fire wiz and produce same result in less time.
Lets talk serious business, with orange/red/purple mobs you get pbaoe resisted much more often wich dosent happen with dam shield. Have you ever tried to pull taskers and try to hold them with pbaoe?
As for the resists get MoF2 should solve it

really you argue with the majority serv necros that play this game

were are they?
And tbh i was advised by a player that plays his main char a necro ( for over 4 years)

 

[Kinetix]

got both cabby and necro and the big difference is the cabalist can get aggro and di dont work on the cabby pet

so cabby pets in pve are hard but much more risky than a servant necro

examples
2.10 with cabby pet yes its quick but cabalist can get aggro and main boss aggro cleric can get snake aggro for healing the cabalist
2.10 with necro no problems

SoM with cabby cabby need to die (or some one does) to take it out of god mode then its risky but much quicker
SoM with necro no problems

Chan and ml9 bothers with cabby (matter 50) kills in about 5 mins tops,(safe due to chan not being able to move) hard to get there
Chan and ml9 bothers with necro kills in about 12 mins (DS lots lower), lot hard to get there to to passive pulling ect

we werent discussing this Therga. I already considered these facts as obvious for Psyco ( since he knows so much about necros ).
We were discussing the necro specs, in wich he affirms that a sight neccy with the debuff AF is important when you are lifetaping mobs.
And he also was affirming that the last pbaoe of necro is more important then having a ABS buff or a strg/con debuff

 

[thergador]

we werent discussing this Therga. I already considered these facts as obvious for Psyco ( since he knows so much about necros ).
We were discussing the necro specs, in wich he affirms that a sight neccy with the debuff AF is important when you are lifetaping mobs.
And he also was affirming that the last pbaoe of necro is more important then having a ABS buff or a strg/con debuff

ahh kk nm me then
/target thergador
/slap

should read more closely

 

[Kinetix]

ahh kk nm me then
/target thergador
/slap

should read more closely

<hug>

 

[Coriolanus]

the pet takes xp
and ml cap at 40 is ml5 m8

Doesnt matter if the pet takes a bit of xp if you are chaining reds and oranges, or doing 7-8 mobs at a time with scorcher pet.