JH VS FC Video

[-Wedge-]

I made a brief appearance in the vid

That Gryphon Knight, smacking on the shammy when he had GFX bug... That was moi

Nerf solo'ing in Emain...

 

[Shaki/Aeis]

http://www.divx.com/divx/player/

Look at the release date: DivX Player Version 2.5 (released 2003-09-02)

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by hotrat
Anyway about the video, its quite difficult to tell how the fight is going from the shamans perspective, first fight you see poon and mumin hitting me. QC was down, and i cant run else i will be rear stunned, here is a screenie i took from the damage they were doing:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ripple/Howards/782SavageComparedtoZerker.JPG

correct me if im wrong hotrats, but as we discussed that fight on irc we both agreed that the spell i resisted was the debuff and not the mezz?

 

[old.Isos]

well was a nice movie...

mostly were laughing at all the 2handed alb tanks

and no hibs at all in that movie =/

 

[Tilda]

Originally posted by jarl
stop using 4-5 ppl on 1 supportcaster u cant kill to "interupt" him?

Its perfectly possible, if rats had rooted the shammy, if PF had procced again. Anyhting that slows the shammy enough for tanks to get to him and land a slam = dead shammy as long as were assisting ok.
He dosnt need interupting as unlike every other realm shammys end isnt interuptable, so mezzing him will not do, he has to be dead, only once he has died once is it ok to mez him and leave him.

Tilda

 

[Garnet]

Originally posted by froler-mid
hmm...try download the latest divx (version 5.0++ ffs )

no thanks, not downloading adware program.

 

[katt!]

try this one

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Tilda
He dosnt need interupting

Yes he does. See all those nice casted roots he did?

Originally posted by Tilda
as unlike every other realm shammys end isnt interuptable

How is a Pally chant interruptable again?

(you mean removable via mezz, not interruptable)

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by Garnet
no thanks, not downloading adware program.

try downloadin the "no-ads" version


www.divx.com ->download -> 3 choices, take the one w/o ads and shit

 

[Thire]

Originally posted by Wuren
Look at 1.07 when the cleric/minstrel? gets rooted by shaman and Sushi catches him

remember, savages are generally more skilled ppl

that was me

 

[bahamuts]

Originally posted by jarl
stop using 4-5 ppl on 1 supportcaster u cant kill to "interupt" him?

yea even more proof mids have way better tanks then albion.

if 4-5 mid tanks on 1 cleric, cleric would die in 5 seconds

 

[jox]

lol, like that dis/sprint-combo

 

[zmurf]

Originally posted by Arnor
try downloadin the "no-ads" version


www.divx.com ->download -> 3 choices, take the one w/o ads and shit

I seriously doubt he ment add's, but the more annoying form, addware, which can be removed via ad-aware ...

btw to all these mplayer whiners(saw a few i think)
Zoomplayer > mplayer ... imo

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by bahamuts
if 4-5 mid tanks on 1 cleric, cleric would die in 5 seconds

More often than not just 'cause the cleric doesn't move. Not mezzed, stun or rooted - just standing there getting excited about all the action and all the pretty colors.

If it gets too excited it might even enter saint-frenzy and go wild with the smites

 

[Shaki/Aeis]

Originally posted by katt!
try this one

And what is that?

 

[Jergiot]

lol such brave soldier that shammy, never seen any1 run that much ^^

could we leave the kobbies live for a change? Oo

 

[parzi]

a good shaman is much more important than most ppl think, maybe this video changes that :d

giv gnubbler back ;o

 

[hotrat]

Yeh FC assisted better...... thay all /assist thingy /stickthingy and chased a shaman they could not catch or harm while the les assisting JH pwned FC 1 by 1.

No matter what class the FC tanks are assisting on they are likely to be diseased, even if someone is interupting the shaman he can use his pbae disease.
With SoS on things are a lot easier for 30 secs, but the shaman will still probably disease the tanks and as soon as sos runs out the 15% snare kicks in, the PR starts being cast and you're back to square 1.

The trouble is unless albs have bof x2 and sos they really stand very little chance vs a good mid group.

On the other hand JH don't need to assist to kill the sorc, I die very quickly and unless I get healed (with all 3 healers using their Insta Haste Debuff to interupt our clerics) I will die before I can even qc a cc spell.

JH maby dont have sucky assist. maby they have assist AND the brains to bother certain classes oO

So difficult to interupt ppl with a spell instant cast on a 5 sec timer!

stop using 4-5 ppl on 1 supportcaster u cant kill to "interupt" him?

The only reason we can't kill him fast is cus of the damn disease, put it on a 5 min timer so its once per fight and he will have about the same suviveability as most other support classes.

But like I said before, healers with an instant cast 5 sec haste debuff, shaman with an instant cast 8 sec pbae disease, and savage with 300-800 dmg at 1.5 sec delay is all working as intended

 

[schinkaar]

did you know chanters have a insta ae AS debuff ?

 

[hotrat]

Yes Mumin the resist was just an instant cast debuff, I had used my qc ae mezz already and I think Poon purged and you got demezzed or something, I can't remember.

In any case BoF wasn't up, the fight started at close range, sos wasn't up, everything was in JH's favour.

 

[Jergiot]

hum i dont think shamans should be nerfed, but it would be nice if such important tool that they have also were on a decent alb class. i let hibs talk for themselfs :>

the game has evolved in such a bad way (dark age of tankalot). the more cloth u have in grp the weaker u are, again im talking about albs here. our disease is on a body cabby. i mean cabbys either specc spirit or matter. so basiclly a balanced alb rvr grp dont have disease at all x[, hell a balanced alb grp dont even have a cabby....

we got to many classes. just cause we do that dont mean that the mid version of it should be nerfed. i want our version to be changed. alot of albions problems would be solved if they would just combine cabbys/sorcs into 1 class. but we all know this aint gonna happend x[

a nice thing to do would be to put immunity on that disease. the timer is so long, and plz fix the bugg so that ur ws go back to normal value after its gone without u having to reequipp ur weaps.

just my 2c Oo

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Jergiot
we got to many classes. just cause we do that dont mean that the mid version of it should be nerfed. i want our version to be changed.

There is still hope for albion.

Hope the rest of you albs read this and realise that Jergiot hit the nail on the head with this part. You have too many classes, that's what hurting you the most.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Jergiot
our disease is on a body cabby. i mean cabbys either specc spirit or matter. so basiclly a balanced alb rvr grp dont have disease at all x[, hell a balanced alb grp dont even have a cabby....

Correction. An uber-balanced Alb group does not have a Cabalist. Our guild groups do reasonably well with me in them, and I'd still call them balanced. Oh, and most Cabalists do (or should have) at least the level 25 AoE disease (which of course is resisted a lot and is not insta). Also, expect a lot of spirit Cabalists to reroll Body when the resistance overhaul and debuff nerfs come in.

plz fix the bugg so that ur ws go back to normal value after its gone without u having to reequipp ur weaps.

I strongly suspect this is just an interface display bug, and that your weaponskill is really restored but the interface is just not updated to show it.

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by schinkaar
did you know chanters have a insta ae AS debuff ?

yus! it's so useful to interrupt those savages hitting them!

 

[Jergiot]

Originally posted by Belomar
Correction. An uber-balanced Alb group does not have a Cabalist. Our guild groups do reasonably well with me in them, and I'd still call them balanced. Oh, and most Cabalists do (or should have) at least the level 25 AoE disease (which of course is resisted a lot and is not insta). Also, expect a lot of spirit Cabalists to reroll Body when the resistance overhaul and debuff nerfs come in.I strongly suspect this is just an interface display bug, and that your weaponskill is really restored but the interface is just not updated to show it.

ye like i said, the game has evolved in such a bad way. what u talking about is the future, like 2007 x[

 

[hotrat]

I agree that the solution should be to give albs more access to disease, rather than to nerf shamans, although I feel the timer for pbae disease should be increased to at least 30 seconds.

Cabalist is pretty nice though, and next patch you can spec:
35 body for the second best spec lifedrain, and second best disease
19 matter for the 35% range decrease nearsight
36 spirit for the second best spirit debuff, body debuff, pet speed buff and the first ae snare (40%)

Not bad, but a lot less surviveability than a shaman, ideally they would be grouped with a air theurg, or a body sorc.
If you took a body sorc you could also take 2 ice wiz.

Hmmm maybe that caba, 1 body sorc, 2 ice wizz, 2 cleric, 1 mins, 1 paladin.

If the enemy tanks move close form a pbae circle and sorc debuffs for the ice wizzies, if its a ranged fight the body sorc and caba can assist each other. Also one ice wiz could use the dd with cold debuff first then switch to the snare dd, both ice wizzies assisting the body sorc and caba as well ofc.

Looks like a pretty fun group, very weak if they are jumped, or vs a baod hib group but otherwise pretty nice.

Either that or just put disease in cleric smite line so we don't have to group a cabalist

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by hotrat
Hmmm maybe that caba, 1 air theurg, 2 ice wizz, 2 cleric, 1 mins, 1 paladin. No I think you need 2 ppl to guard, swap the air theurg for a shield specced arms.

Errr... what started as a nice thought kinda got screwed

Who was your Cabby debuffing for? Who was debuffing for the wizzies?

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by hotrat
Either that or just put disease in cleric smite line so we don't have to group a cabalist

Should be in 'Terrible Hammer' line in that case imo, but I assume that's what you meant?

 

[hotrat]

bah Pin you replied to fast, I edited my post

Sorc debuffs for ice wiz if tanks are close, otherwise caba debuffs for sorc and both caba and sorc nuke after the debuff.

 

[rg-zorena]

YES ALOT OF CASTERS vs tank GRPS pwns!!11111